Can’t wait for the antibodies tests to become available 

24 minutes ago, pookondee said:

Yet people are still speculating with these imaginary time limits and scenarios.

How does anyone know? 

 

It could wind up very quickly.

Australia is looking like its well on the path to an end of it all.

 

Do you expect places like Australia will just sit on their heels for years on end,

ruining the economy?

 

watching suicides go through the roof..

 just for the หell of it?..

And if Covid free in the next month or so?

 

It seemed the Aus prime minister was snapping out of it for a moment,

but it seems he has crawled back into his box again.

maybe told to "belt it" from international power entities? 

 

Anyway, the doom and gloom negativity and BS on here and other places is just incredible. 

I really dont understand what people get out of it.

 

Yes, we have "sad sacks" in Australia who have never been on a plane, so of course they are jealous of anyone who actually has A LIFE!!

They wouldnt mind if the world is locked down for xx years.

doesnt effect them!

 

But even people who were actually once travellers themselves, saying no travel for 6months..1, 2 years?????

 

I've even read idiots on here claiming there will be no international travel for 5 years.

 

How anyone can come to these conclusions is beyond me.

 

Heres my prediction:

 

There will be mass rioting everywhere in the world if this BS is allowed to go on for another 3 months....

 

The people who crave an actual life will be out lynching these fools and cowards who want to keep everything locked down forever..

 

All for the sake of a slightly worse than average flu.

 

QUOTE:

he has crawled back into his box again.

maybe told to "belt it" from international power entities? 

 

Such as?

 

1 hour ago, oldhippy said:

Belgium, now 1 week, was  2 weeks.

France.

Thats's 2.

 

So you have  booked a trip to  both locations already ?

Could be the correct decision based on COVID19 numbers outside Thailand and where it is heading toward December.  Khun Prayut Chan O Cha will be on top of this and I expect he is aware of the balancing act he must endure due to the economic fallout and the transmission rate if a second wave of the virus ever started. Well done Khun Prayut and the Thai government for controlling the virus with minimal transmission rates unlike the UK, US and Victoria .... and now Europe ... 

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

They already have, by announcing their 2 week quarantine 90 day Tourist VISA scheme would run until September 2021.

 

    Forever the optimist ..

     September , 2023,  gets my two bob bet ..

39 minutes ago, pookondee said:

Yet people are still speculating with these imaginary time limits and scenarios.

How does anyone know? 

 

It could wind up very quickly.

Australia is looking like its well on the path to an end of it all.

 

Do you expect places like Australia will just sit on their heels for years on end,

ruining the economy?

 

watching suicides go through the roof..

 just for the หell of it?..

And if Covid free in the next month or so?

 

It seemed the Aus prime minister was snapping out of it for a moment,

but it seems he has crawled back into his box again.

maybe told to "belt it" from international power entities? 

 

Anyway, the doom and gloom negativity and BS on here and other places is just incredible. 

I really dont understand what people get out of it.

 

Yes, we have "sad sacks" in Australia who have never been on a plane, so of course they are jealous of anyone who actually has A LIFE!!

They wouldnt mind if the world is locked down for xx years.

doesnt effect them!

 

But even people who were actually once travellers themselves, saying no travel for 6months..1, 2 years?????

 

I've even read idiots on here claiming there will be no international travel for 5 years.

 

How anyone can come to these conclusions is beyond me.

 

Heres my prediction:

 

There will be mass rioting everywhere in the world if this BS is allowed to go on for another 3 months....

 

The people who crave an actual life will be out lynching these fools and cowards who want to keep everything locked down forever..

 

All for the sake of a slightly worse than average flu.

 

well Plonkadee .... some of what you said appears correct but the further you went on the worse it got ....     I think you should lay off that Lao kaow for a few days ... lol

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

I quite like France, Spain, Italy which I often visited, and was thinking of buying a house in France earlier this year, before the madness started.

and all of France breathed a collective sigh of relief lol..

41 minutes ago, pookondee said:

Yet people are still speculating with these imaginary time limits and scenarios.

How does anyone know? 

 

It could wind up very quickly.

Australia is looking like its well on the path to an end of it all.

 

Do you expect places like Australia will just sit on their heels for years on end,

ruining the economy?

 

watching suicides go through the roof..

 just for the หell of it?..

And if Covid free in the next month or so?

 

It seemed the Aus prime minister was snapping out of it for a moment,

but it seems he has crawled back into his box again.

maybe told to "belt it" from international power entities? 

 

Anyway, the doom and gloom negativity and BS on here and other places is just incredible. 

I really dont understand what people get out of it.

 

Yes, we have "sad sacks" in Australia who have never been on a plane, so of course they are jealous of anyone who actually has A LIFE!!

They wouldnt mind if the world is locked down for xx years.

doesnt effect them!

 

But even people who were actually once travellers themselves, saying no travel for 6months..1, 2 years?????

 

I've even read idiots on here claiming there will be no international travel for 5 years.

 

How anyone can come to these conclusions is beyond me.

 

Heres my prediction:

 

There will be mass rioting everywhere in the world if this BS is allowed to go on for another 3 months....

 

The people who crave an actual life will be out lynching these fools and cowards who want to keep everything locked down forever..

 

All for the sake of a slightly worse than average flu.

 

Yippee ! The world  will become  a clone of  the USA !????

 

What part of Thailand's extended SoE has created the biggest personal problem for the noisome farang squatters herein?

 

What exactly is the problem that has become so unbearable for others here?

 

For me, I can still go shopping, buy food, run my kids to school, dine out, drink beer with my mates, go to beach or a National Park, stay in a hotel, access unlimited high-speed internet and enjoy uncensored social media video chat with family and friends back home, bring money into the country, buy a condo, order stuff online, etc., etc..

Just close it for 5 years until all the virus have died.

2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

The UK where they just announced pubs must close by 10pm?

And all gatherings of more than 6 totally banned.

I'd say that indicated getting worse, not getting better.

You do make a point. 

I was simply illustrating that some countries appear to be loosening some restrictions, but it's premature to state whether it will remain this way because we've already seen reversals or more restrictions happen numerous times. Countries across Europe mostly opened up around June and July but several have now closed or partially closed up again, while others have introduced quarantines for the first time, including 14-day self quarantines for arrivals from certain countries into the UK.

 

It's a constantly evolving situation and I think it's far too early to say what things will look like in a few months, or even whether we are currently on a gradual re-opening trajectory or not. 

Edited September 24, 20205 yr by TheFreqFlyer

22 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

What part of Thailand's extended SoE has created the biggest personal problem for the noisome farang squatters herein?

 

What exactly is the problem that has become so unbearable for others here?

 

For me, I can still go shopping, buy food, run my kids to school, dine out, drink beer with my mates, go to beach or a National Park, stay in a hotel, access unlimited high-speed internet and enjoy uncensored social media video chat with family and friends back home, bring money into the country, buy a condo, order stuff online, etc., etc..

Yes nearly everything that one could enjoy pre covid can be done now too. The lockdowns almost seem like a distant memory. What however still irks me personally, are the mask requirements to enter certain establishments, that being said even here they're not particularly strict anymore. Still, I'd prefer it if all this would just be over already. 

1 hour ago, pookondee said:

Yet people are still speculating with these imaginary time limits and scenarios.

How does anyone know? 

 

It could wind up very quickly.

Australia is looking like its well on the path to an end of it all.

 

Do you expect places like Australia will just sit on their heels for years on end,

ruining the economy?

 

watching suicides go through the roof..

 just for the หell of it?..

And if Covid free in the next month or so?

 

It seemed the Aus prime minister was snapping out of it for a moment,

but it seems he has crawled back into his box again.

maybe told to "belt it" from international power entities? 

 

Anyway, the doom and gloom negativity and BS on here and other places is just incredible. 

I really dont understand what people get out of it.

 

Yes, we have "sad sacks" in Australia who have never been on a plane, so of course they are jealous of anyone who actually has A LIFE!!

They wouldnt mind if the world is locked down for xx years.

doesnt effect them!

 

But even people who were actually once travellers themselves, saying no travel for 6months..1, 2 years?????

 

I've even read idiots on here claiming there will be no international travel for 5 years.

 

How anyone can come to these conclusions is beyond me.

 

Heres my prediction:

 

There will be mass rioting everywhere in the world if this BS is allowed to go on for another 3 months....

 

The people who crave an actual life will be out lynching these fools and cowards who want to keep everything locked down forever..

 

All for the sake of a slightly worse than average flu.

 

Well said. I can see this lasting another 3 months (Malaysia already made it clear no tourist entries until after Dec 31, 2020) but 6 months or more might be a stretch.

 

I give it around 6 months before it starts fizzling out. After all, all pandemics eventually end, don't they? Certainly SARS did, as West Nile, and so did swine flu and ebola. 

2 hours ago, Dumbastheycome said:

So you have  booked a trip to  both locations already ?

I am stuck in one of these places and have travelled to the other one - why do you ask ?

5 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Oddly enough I hear France is about to lock up tight again.

Who gives a poop about Belgium?

I do. They have a great beer festival in Brussels ????

Sadly it was cancelled this year ....

Ohh well next year maybe.

5 hours ago, oldhippy said:

QUOTE:

he has crawled back into his box again.

maybe told to "belt it" from international power entities? 

 

Such as?

 

Who knows.

Just strange he is on the media 1 week ago, talking about the importance of opening up shop and getting economies going..

since then hes dissapeared without another word about it 

7 hours ago, jonclark said:

Project fear in full swing it seems. The virus is out of control..it's an emergency...but, but we have not had any real outbreak for over 100 days?? But other countries have.. 

Haven't you answered your own question....no outbreak in over 100 days yet other countries not taking the same measures as Thailand have....

Economics will soon be a top priority when full extent of recession begins affecting the lives of all whether rich or poor. Unemployment and hunger are recipes for disaster even war you only have to look at history

12 hours ago, TheFreqFlyer said:

12 hours ago, BritManToo said:

They already have, by announcing their 2 week quarantine 90 day Tourist VISA scheme would run until September 2021.

I don't interpret it that way.

 

I think what they're saying is this special visa will be offered for one calendar year, it doesn't necessarily mean it won't be tweaked in the meantime, and potentially become quarantine free in the coming months. Besides, I doubt there will be many takers if they continue it in the present form beyond the end of this year. Other countries are starting to loosen their quarantine requirements too. 

I agree with BritManToo.

 

The new long term visa scheme is intended as a money generator for those operating the quarantine, testing and resort facilities. They will have used a significant amount of "influence" to set it up, and have even created a company to process applications. You can be sure that in the agreement negotiated, it will be  understood that no other schemes will be available for at least a year. They will be looking at a return on their investment. In the (unlikely) event that it is profitable to them it may be extended and have capacity increased. 

 

What it has done has transferred control of, and any economic benefits from, the Tourist Industry to a few people, who have the ear of the government - the"good people".

 

They have closed the door to the sort of "uncontrolled" tourism which existed before.

Edited September 25, 20205 yr by herfiehandbag

10 hours ago, pookondee said:

Yet people are still speculating with these imaginary time limits and scenarios.

How does anyone know? 

 

It could wind up very quickly.

Australia is looking like its well on the path to an end of it all.

 

Do you expect places like Australia will just sit on their heels for years on end,

ruining the economy?

 

watching suicides go through the roof..

 just for the หell of it?..

And if Covid free in the next month or so?

 

It seemed the Aus prime minister was snapping out of it for a moment,

but it seems he has crawled back into his box again.

maybe told to "belt it" from international power entities? 

 

Anyway, the doom and gloom negativity and BS on here and other places is just incredible. 

I really dont understand what people get out of it.

 

Yes, we have "sad sacks" in Australia who have never been on a plane, so of course they are jealous of anyone who actually has A LIFE!!

They wouldnt mind if the world is locked down for xx years.

doesnt effect them!

 

But even people who were actually once travellers themselves, saying no travel for 6months..1, 2 years?????

 

I've even read idiots on here claiming there will be no international travel for 5 years.

 

How anyone can come to these conclusions is beyond me.

 

Heres my prediction:

 

There will be mass rioting everywhere in the world if this BS is allowed to go on for another 3 months....

 

The people who crave an actual life will be out lynching these fools and cowards who want to keep everything locked down forever..

 

All for the sake of a slightly worse than average flu.

 

Life is just passing you by. A lot to say about nothing and nothing to say about anything. I think the hundreds of thousands who have died from this little more than average flu as you describe it and the many more of their loved ones might just have something to say about your inane comments. 

13 hours ago, petermik said:

I doubt whether the government will ever want it lifted....

Nor does the British Government ruling by decree and diktat with no vote allowed

1 minute ago, Nip said:

Life is just passing you by. A lot to say about nothing and nothing to say about anything. I think the hundreds of thousands who have died from this little more than average flu as you describe it and the many more of their loved ones might just have something to say about your inane comments. 

There can be nothing more inane than referencing the relatives who have died for their opinion. Of course they would have an illogical skewed viewpoint not based on reason but emotion. Imagine trying to ban cars because the relatives of traffic accidents had a hostility to cars.

In the USA they are now saying that only 6% of the reported 200,000 that died from the virus directly. That's around 12000 deaths that killed people without  other medical conditions. So what's the big problem?

10 hours ago, oldhippy said:

QUOTE:

he has crawled back into his box again.

maybe told to "belt it" from international power entities? 

 

Such as?

 

Such as? Soros, The USA,China backed WHO? Use your imagination.  

Edited September 25, 20205 yr by Nout

Great news, may it stay in place for a long time.

12 hours ago, mr mr said:

this is going to get so messy. who made these decisions in the first place to get our world into this absolute cluster f. 

 

let it rip already for the sake of humanity. we cannot take much more of this. the dire consequences being ignored are staggering to say the least. 

 

 

Why the assumption by many posters that the SOE affects border opening? It has absolutely nothing to do with it.

12 hours ago, jonclark said:

Project fear in full swing it seems. The virus is out of control..it's an emergency...but, but we have not had any real outbreak for over 100 days?? But other countries have.. 

I’d say never had an outbreak (of any magnitude at least) is more like it. 

12 hours ago, Marco100 said:

RIP Thai Tourist Industry.... if they keep only the STV in place for coming high season .

The tourist industry in Thailand only helps to support the livelihood of commoners - so it's not important.

 

10 hours ago, TheFreqFlyer said:

I give it around 6 months before it starts fizzling out. After all, all pandemics eventually end, don't they? Certainly SARS did, as West Nile, and so did swine flu and ebola. 

C19 ended a few months ago but the panic is as strong as ever. UK is the best example. Cases way up and deaths way down. Maybe going into more lockdown now. What is this even about anymore and when does it end?