H2N2, H3N2, H5N1, SARS, Bird Flu, Swine Flu, Porcine Pestivirus and COVID 19 all orginated in China.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

900 people coming in a week wouldn't even fill one beach yet alone all the beaches in Thailand. Just more hot air coming from idiots. 

5 hours ago, webfact said:

Thai Beaches Won’t Reopen Fully Until Vaccines Become Available

Similar to this????

 

 

2 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

For those of us over 70, yes, shutting down the globe is OK.  We have rights also.

Most selfish statement of the century

other people are not responsible for your poor life choices

your right to stay inside would not change

6 hours ago, webfact said:

Thai Beaches Won’t Reopen Fully Until Vaccines Become Available

More accurately his should read:

Thai beaches won't reopen fully until each and every person in the world has been required to purchased a vaccine in what will be the largest example in history of corporations and governments working together globally to transfer literally trillions of dollars of new wealth to Big Pharma in the name of 'safety.'

This new normal is the advent of global corporatocracy, and for those nations that have also embraced autocratic totalitarian rule (like most of the commonwealth countries) the new normal will begin to look like dystopia fiction come to life.
 

When is everyone going to realize ?  You're not wanted,  Mr CP and his mates in the Gov have already decided that Thailand's for the Chinese and those pesky farangs can just move on........ The only way back is for the rest of the world to kick out all the Thais all over the place back to Lie land and let them vent their anger on the Junta at being kicked back into a third world nightmare governed by a bunch of senile old Mr Woos.........  There will be NO change for the good in Thailand until this lot are made to leave...... Simple as that......

 

3 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

For those of us over 70, yes, shutting down the globe is OK.  We have rights also.

 

Those daily number of deaths are expected to rise dramatically very soon.

 

Easy answer.  Wear masks, social distance, abide by the directives from the medical experts.

 

You serious about globe shutting down to protect you? How about self protection and let the world go about resurrection, especially the young and poorer members of the global community.

2nd wave cases in Europe started spiking weeks ago and deaths have stubbornly refused to follow. They're still low and there are a number of reasons including improved treatment, lots of testing, young people catching, not dying and continued distancing in many places and same with masks.

Continued social distancing and masks makes good sense, but not the medical experts. Many don't seemed connected to the real world and Western experts were generally disparaging of masks at the onset, costing so many lives in the northern hemi first wave.

Banning people on Thai beaches is crazy. Covid-19 doesn't thrive at all in Thai, or most countries outdoors. This is well established, so any expert suggesting extending the ban probably can't swim.

Edited October 1, 20205 yr by Donga

Beaches and popular islands could do with a long break from the relentless pressure of chinese mass tourism to allow for rejuvenation . If there is an upside this is it 

4 hours ago, BritManToo said:

If you want to cower in your room alone, I'm OK with that.

But that's no reason for you to want to force everyone else to do it.

Easy to open up.  We've done it here in Thailand, China has done it, etc.  Follow the guidelines and it can be done.  Sadly, many don't agree with this.

 

I'm not cowering in my room alone.  Don't have to here.  Luckily.

1 hour ago, Donga said:

 

You serious about globe shutting down to protect you? How about self protection and let the world go about resurrection, especially the young and poorer members of the global community.

2nd wave cases in Europe started spiking weeks ago and deaths have stubbornly refused to follow. They're still low and there are a number of reasons including improved treatment, lots of testing, young people catching, not dying and continued distancing in many places and same with masks.

Continued social distancing and masks makes good sense, but not the medical experts. Many don't seemed connected to the real world and Western experts were generally disparaging of masks at the onset, costing so many lives in the northern hemi first wave.

Banning people on Thai beaches is crazy. Covid-19 doesn't thrive at all in Thai, or most countries outdoors. This is well established, so any expert suggesting extending the ban probably can't swim.

Self protection is impossible if people ignore the medical experts advice.  You don't seem to understand the real reason they said not to wear masks initially.

2 hours ago, patman30 said:

Most selfish statement of the century

other people are not responsible for your poor life choices

your right to stay inside would not change

Wanting to protect myself and my family is selfish?  Not wearing masks and social distancing is selfish.  I don't stay inside and haven't made poor life choices.  You know nothing about me.

4 hours ago, GeorgeCross said:

 

tell that to these guys:

 

 

Dont forget this victim, shown in report by Channel 4 News

 

Source

 

 

8 hours ago, ourmanflint said:

Vaccine won't be widely available in Thailand until 2022 at the earliest. So good luck with that plan

Who told you that? 

Why Thailand should wait for a vaccine until 2022 when other countries will use it this year already ?

Makes no sense. ????

3 hours ago, Phuketshrew said:

That is so poriticarry incollect ....

This was when the world was normal and people could make joke without fear of offending !

...a brilliant sketch, love the isle of wight bit

Edited October 1, 20205 yr by poohy

19 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

Wanting to protect myself and my family is selfish?  Not wearing masks and social distancing is selfish.  I don't stay inside and haven't made poor life choices.  You know nothing about me.

i quoted you on "shutting down the globe"

you expect everyone else to lose their livelyhoods
simply because you feel your immune system is not capable of keeping you alive
which is due to your poor life decisions, your choices, your consequences
nobody else is responsible for the choices you have made

again
your rights will not change
you have the right to avoid others and do whatever you feel you need for you and yours to survive

other people must also have the right to do what they feel they need to do for them and theirs to survive
which includes earning a living to put food on the table
who are you to demand others do not have the right to feed their family ?

maybe when those around you start taking their own lives,
like those around myself have already started to do due to this economic mess
you may wake up and stop thinking about only yourself

Edited October 1, 20205 yr by patman30

15 minutes ago, sawadee1947 said:

Who told you that? 

Why Thailand should wait for a vaccine until 2022 when other countries will use it this year already ?

Makes no sense. ????

There may be a jab this year, maybe not.  It's not guaranteed.  And not guaranteed it will work or be safe.  Health care providers will be first, followed by the rest of us.  Making and transporting billions of jabs is an incredible job.  Doubt most of us will see it until mid next year.  If we're lucky.

Make all the government officials try it first 

Edited October 1, 20205 yr by ChipButty

1 hour ago, madmen said:

Beaches and popular islands could do with a long break from the relentless pressure of chinese mass tourism to allow for rejuvenation . If there is an upside this is it 

Indeed, there is an upside to this, you just don't want to be part of the collateral that the "agenda" is out to achieve, look at the UN 2030 goals (or agenda - same) as that's what this is all about, the end result will be an improved world - no doubt about it, but for the millions who have to suffer and die to reach the lofty goals - there is going to be a lot of misery!

Who forced the tourism-reliant nation to close????

9 hours ago, webfact said:

About 150 Chinese nationals will arrive at Phuket on Oct. 8,

Not much use for Bangla then?

21 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

There may be a jab this year, maybe not.  It's not guaranteed.  And not guaranteed it will work or be safe.  Health care providers will be first, followed by the rest of us.  Making and transporting billions of jabs is an incredible job.  Doubt most of us will see it until mid next year.  If we're lucky.

Just don't hold your breath waiting for something that might happen, happen and cause problems because rushed, happen but like the flu vaccine only last 1 year and not cover everyone anyway.

6 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

For those of us over 70, yes, shutting down the globe is OK.  We have rights also.

You have rights but you also have a physical condition.

If a minority of the population developed a severe allergy to pollen, it would be unfair and ridiculous to stop the world economy simply so they wouldn't be the only ones kept inside.

Since it first because clear that this virus was a mortal danger to certain categories - the old and those with comorbidities - I have been astonished that governments did not simply direct their resources at directly protecting those people, providing them with proper and comfortable isolation, while the rest of society continued their education and jobs in order to pay for it.

Instead, we got these poorly enforced general lockdowns that disrupted everyone's lives, tore apart relationships, increased suicides, delayed medical checks, destroyed the economy, and failed to protect anyone.

 

Edited October 1, 20205 yr by donnacha

1 hour ago, Jeffr2 said:

There may be a jab this year, maybe not.  It's not guaranteed.  And not guaranteed it will work or be safe.  Health care providers will be first, followed by the rest of us.  Making and transporting billions of jabs is an incredible job.  Doubt most of us will see it until mid next year.  If we're lucky.

Fortune tellers stuff. All unproven ????

6 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

For those of us over 70, yes, shutting down the globe is OK.  We have rights also.

 

 

Now who is being selfish....

 

Yes, you do, but that doesn't go to the point of causing a global depression and destroying the lives of 100s of millions if not billions.

 

In the end, the lives and futures of young people have more value to society than those of people who already had their shot and are nearing the end of the road. Certainly serious efforts need to be made to protect them. My parents are in their 80s and 90s in the US and are seriously self isolating (yes the US totally mucked it up). If they die so be it, they had a good run; I hope they don't. I am 56. If I end up dying so society can function normally and young people don't end up killing themselves, I can accept that.

1 hour ago, sawadee1947 said:

Fortune tellers stuff. All unproven ????

Prove I'm wrong then.

45 minutes ago, vermin on arrival said:

Now who is being selfish....

 

Yes, you do, but that doesn't go to the point of causing a global depression and destroying the lives of 100s of millions if not billions.

 

In the end, the lives and futures of young people have more value to society than those of people who already had their shot and are nearing the end of the road. Certainly serious efforts need to be made to protect them. My parents are in their 80s and 90s in the US and are seriously self isolating (yes the US totally mucked it up). If they die so be it, they had a good run; I hope they don't. I am 56. If I end up dying so society can function normally and young people don't end up killing themselves, I can accept that.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/30/world/europe/ski-party-pandemic-travel-coronavirus.html?campaign_id=2&emc=edit_th_20201001&instance_id=22679&nl=todaysheadlines&regi_id=80027960&segment_id=39505&user_id=1298cdda864738dcf5f5cb52747197da

7 hours ago, GeorgeCross said:

 

tell that to these guys:

 

Is that from that video that showed the emergency room in Italy, Australia and the US. Turned out of course that it was the same video. As we know now from many posted videos most hospitals were deserted. No doubt a few were busy but they were the exception. Nurses and doctors were dancing as had nothing else to do. Nurses I spoke to here said work was boring.

2 hours ago, sawadee1947 said:

Who told you that? 

Why Thailand should wait for a vaccine until 2022 when other countries will use it this year already ?

Makes no sense. ????

No it makes 100% sense.

There will be limited supplies of vaccines no matter what anybody says, and because Thailand has zero cases, it will be last on the list to receive vaccines, this is just basic common sense. The vaccine will go first to countries that have bad outbreaks or continue to have outbreaks, and that will take a while. I'm sure Thailand will get a token amount, but if you think the general population will get access in 2021 you are dreaming

11 hours ago, webfact said:

Thai Beaches Won’t Reopen Fully Until Vaccines Become Available

What is this headline saying exactly? My local strand, Jomtien Beach, has been fully open to one and all for several months. Booze is freely available, there's no social distancing and no compulsory face masks, though some Thais, especially the food vendors tend to wear them still. Not surprisingly, the beach is packed out on the weekends, not missing the foreign tourists at all.

4 minutes ago, Rancid said:

Is that from that video that showed the emergency room in Italy, Australia and the US. Turned out of course that it was the same video. As we know now from many posted videos most hospitals were deserted. No doubt a few were busy but they were the exception. Nurses and doctors were dancing as had nothing else to do. Nurses I spoke to here said work was boring.

Most hospitals in Italy were deserted?  You seriously believe that?  Wow....where do you get your news?

 

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/not-a-wave-a-tsunami-italy-hospitals-at-virus-limit