2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Statistically he has a great chance if surviving the initial infection. However as information comes out about the severity of his case, it's obvious by now that the chances that he will be permanently damaged in his vital organs including his brain are quite significant.

Lol if think that there coming even more damage in hes brain it's really scary! Other "pea" in hes skull start make "idiot things". Like going outside when have covid! Just coz he can!

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37 minutes ago, Opl said:

Barr self-quarantine

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/04/politics/william-barr-quarantine-coronavirus/index.html

Front row, directly in front of Sen. Mike Lee and not wearing a mask.......Mike Pence.

10 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Typical Trump. Just rolls his sleeves up and get's the job done with the minimum of fuss. Impressive and inspirational in equal measures. His strength hasn't gone un-noticed, and his resilience makes the fear mongers look rather silly IMO. 

 

and this ought to cheer him up..

 

US election poll: Trump BEATING Biden despite being hospitalised with Covid – EXCLUSIVE

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1343305/US-election-poll-donald-trump-coronavirus-covid-joe-biden-exclusive-polling

 

Except, the risk of transmission of Covid19 inside the Presidential SUV is off the charts, as it is sealed against chemical attack. The irresponsibility of this so called President is astonishing, and to put lives at risk for a bit of political theatre...come on, lets get real. The guy is a dangerous psychopath, and those agents now have to quarantine for 14 days, just to support this stupid attempt at macho behaviour. Nonsense, I say. 

I am surprised he is doing so well,

and all it took was access to immediate testing, a fleet of helicopters on standby, his own private hospital, a team of 10 exclusive doctors and access to 3-4 experimental drugs, and based on his last tax return, its all been done on medicaid.

 

A bizarre ride in a car so the fox headlines can say "trump leaves hospital" but no headlines saying "trump returns to hospital" 10 minutes later.

 

 

 In a tweet, the president - dressed in a suit jacket and shirt with no tie - said: "I learned a lot about Covid. I learned it by really going to school. This is the real school. This isn't the let's read the books school. I get it and I understand it. It's a very interesting thing, I'll be letting you know about it." ( source BBC News )

 

Can’t wait for his spin on the virus !!

11 minutes ago, polpott said:

Front row, directly in front of Sen. Mike Lee and not wearing a mask.......Mike Pence.

trump with his photo-ops and stunts is seemingly trying to cover up an infection more severe than admitted.  pence has taken no precautions, was in the middle of the covid cloud all week, so just a matter of time before he tests positive.  i bet nancy is following protocol to the letter these days.

 

Order of Presidential Succession

• Vice President.
• Speaker of the House.
• President Pro Tempore of the Senate.
• Secretary of State.
• Secretary of the Treasury.
• Secretary of Defense.
• Attorney General.
• Secretary of the Interior.

 

 

Edited October 5, 20205 yr by ChouDoufu

4 minutes ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

 In a tweet, the president - dressed in a suit jacket and shirt with no tie - said: "I learned a lot about Covid. I learned it by really going to school. This is the real school. This isn't the let's read the books school. I get it and I understand it. It's a very interesting thing, I'll be letting you know about it." ( source BBC News )

 

Can’t wait for his spin on the virus !!

As long as he lives, he always gets worse. Prepare for herd mentality. His take on herd immunity.

 

Anyone expecting him to become apologetic and reasonable about his response to the pandemic, well, forget about it!

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/only-the-trump-team-could-spin-this-into-even-riskier-messaging-about-the-virus/2020/10/04/30415bf4-0655-11eb-859b-f9c27abe638d_story.html

 

 

Only the Trump team could spin this into even riskier messaging about the virus

 

 

There is never a silver lining to somebody else’s illness, but you might have thought that President Trump’s infection at least could have offered a learning moment for his supporters.

If so, you would have underestimated the cynicism and amorality of the Trump campaign.

So far, although it wouldn’t have seemed possible, the Trump team is using this occasion to peddle even more dangerous misinformation and advice than before

41 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

What business ???

Apparently you missed the signing of the blank pages.

28 minutes ago, b17 said:

Except, the risk of transmission of Covid19 inside the Presidential SUV is off the charts, as it is sealed against chemical attack. The irresponsibility of this so called President is astonishing, and to put lives at risk for a bit of political theatre...come on, lets get real. The guy is a dangerous psychopath, and those agents now have to quarantine for 14 days, just to support this stupid attempt at macho behaviour. Nonsense, I say. 

The vehicle is ventilated.  ????????????

3 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

The vehicle is ventilated.  ????????????

So was the Rose Garden.  

 

It is clear that he has no regard to the health or safety of anybody.  Ventilation does not prevent the virus from circulating or exposing the driver.  It doesn't prevent the numerous people who must disinfect and sanitize everything he touches, from his drive by to his fake 'working at a desk' photo op.   He is demonstrating zero regard for others.   

 

7 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

37 minutes ago, b17 said:

Except, the risk of transmission of Covid19 inside the Presidential SUV is off the charts, as it is sealed against chemical attack. The irresponsibility of this so called President is astonishing, and to put lives at risk for a bit of political theatre...come on, lets get real. The guy is a dangerous psychopath, and those agents now have to quarantine for 14 days, just to support this stupid attempt at macho behaviour. Nonsense, I say. 

The vehicle is ventilated.  ????????

As usual, you're wrong.  According to the attending physician at Walter Reed....

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 5, 20205 yr by Berkshire

24 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

The vehicle is ventilated.  ????????????

Ok, next time Trump goes on a ride again, he needs to wave - a Bible in his hand 

Edited October 5, 20205 yr by Opl

Trump Didn’t Disclose First Positive Covid-19 Test While Awaiting a Second Test on Thursday

As with all else with this guy and his gang the more that gets revealed the stinkier it gets.

 

Anyone familiar with the movie Dave ??

 

 

Edited October 5, 20205 yr by bendejo

3 hours ago, taxout said:

National polls don't matter, any more than national vote. Biden could take every single vote in California and New York and it would affect nothing.

 

Only state-by-state polls count.

 

He's pretty much ahead in enough states there too.

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Looking good for Trump recovering.

I guess those that wished him to die of it will be disappointed.

 

NB I'm not referencing any poster on TVF, but plenty on "social media", from what they are saying on talkback radio here, that do wish him dead.

"Looking good for Trump recovering."

I'd say at best 50/50 with long term side affects from covid infection. Even odds are okay for roulette but not for one's survival.

Doctors are 'throwing the kitchen sink' of antiviral drugs to reverse his infection and physical harm. This cocktail of three (?) antiviral drugs has never been tested before. Why the panic treatment?

21 minutes ago, tpazzi said:

Apparently you missed the signing of the blank pages.

55555....Trump is unbelievable in his brazenness.  And he thinks people are buying his nonsense.  Well, I suppose there are some who believes everything Trump says/does....

 

[The Trump administration’s credibility crisis continues as the president is mocked for apparently signing a blank piece of paper with a marker in photos taken at Walter Reed military hospital, in a vain attempt to show him working while fighting coronavirus.]

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-mocked-signing-blank-paper-125223761.html

 

 

 

27 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

The vehicle is ventilated.  ????????????

It's hermetically sealed to protect against chemical attack from the OUTSIDE!  I am unaware if the system is equipped to scrub the internal air to the extent it will prevent a virus contained in exhalation droplets.

9 hours ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

 "They showed him in a video signing documents that were blank pieces of paper which seems odd."

Maybe  Mitch Mc. will fill in the details as per need later?

 

 

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The old idea of keeping patients resting has long been abandoned in favour of getting the muscular general stature back to normal as soon as possible. Obviously that is for the cases that are able to do so. Even in old age, to much resting can be detrimental. So I think that in Pres Trumps case this is just normal therapy. Obviously with contagious disease there are other issues to consider and I would have thought the military doctors would have debated the situation carefully. I doubt that Pres Trump would have done otherwise if the doctors had protested and I would trust them to ensure appropriate procedures.

On the other side, I am not sure the OP reflects VP Biden's stance properly, almost as if what he apparently said was mutually exclusive. Wishing Pres. Trump and family well is in no way connected to a political stance on how the pandemic was/ was not handled. I'm sure any other politician would have done the same.

As for polls, I don't attach much credence to them having had statistical experience with them years ago. They are a kind of double edge sword where the apparent leader can be given a morale boost but by the same token it could provide a stimulus for the opponent to do more which could lead to a gain.

19 minutes ago, Srikcir said:

"Looking good for Trump recovering."

I'd say at best 50/50 with long term side affects from covid infection. Even odds are okay for roulette but not for one's survival.

Doctors are 'throwing the kitchen sink' of antiviral drugs to reverse his infection and physical harm. This cocktail of three (?) antiviral drugs has never been tested before. Why the panic treatment?

Why the panic,he's the President of the United States of America! This is how the office is treated by doctors ,respect  and abundance of the best medicines

Edited October 5, 20205 yr by riclag

3 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Impressive and inspirational in equal measures.

An inspiration to be feared?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7286227/

 

• Covid 19 represents a major challenge in the field of psychiatry, as both the virus and the medications used to treat it may induce neurological and psychiatric symptoms.
• Antiretroviral drugs may produce undesirable effects on the central and peripheral nervous systems.

Trump is already seemingly paranoid about enemies and conflicted with conpiracy theories. Being treated with psychiatric chemicals isn't going to help him or the nation  becoming safer.

Glad to hear he's doing so well.

 

You can't keep a good man down. Get well soon Mr. Trump ????.

Since Donald can go for joy rides, he should be able to make it for the Presidential debate next Thursday (Oct 15), right? There should be no reason to cancel the debate. They can hold it virtually if needed. Kennedy and Nixon were in different cities in their third TV debate in 1960. I would think that with current video conferencing it would be even easier now to have a virtual debate between Biden and Donald.

 

It will be interesting to see if there will be two more presidential debates or not. Seems Donald is recovering Bigly and should be healthy enough to debate.

 

58 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

The vehicle is ventilated.  ????????????

You must be joking. He's abusing the secret service. Such brave Americans are simply props and expendable losers to this thoroughly despicable nacissistic irresponsible president. Yes they're there to take a bullet for any President if needed but they're not there to invite a bullet for a moronic political stunt. The same way he abuses the military as props for his vile propaganda.

Edited October 5, 20205 yr by Jingthing

5 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Glad to hear he's doing so well.

 

You can't keep a good man down. Get well soon Mr. Trump ????.

Good?

2 hours ago, webfact said:

Experts raise questions about severity of Trump's COVID-19

By Deena Beasley and Michael Erman

 

U.S. President Donald Trump rides in front of the Walter Reed National Military Medical Center, where he is being treated for the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) in Bethesda, Maryland, U.S. October 4, 2020. REUTERS/Cheriss May

 

(Reuters) - Doctors not involved in treating President Donald Trump for COVID-19 said the fact that he has been started on dexamethasone - a generic steroid widely used in other diseases to reduce inflammation - is evidence his case is severe.

 

Full story: https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1185880-experts-raise-questions-about-severity-of-trumps-covid-19/

 This is a pic of him leaving the hospital briefly to show thanks to his faithful .For a couple of days a very large crowd of Patriots  standing outside waving flags ! beeping horns as cars pass bye all in support of the POTUS !

 I seen reports of people coming from different states to be part of the well wishers  !

Edited October 5, 20205 yr by riclag

Just now, Silurian said:

Since Donald can go for joy rides, he should be able to make it for the Presidential debate next Thursday (Oct 15), right? There should be no reason to cancel the debate. They can hold it virtually if needed. Kennedy and Nixon were in different cities in their third TV debate in 1960. I would think that with current video conferencing it would be even easier now to have a virtual debate between Biden and Donald.

 

It will be interesting to see if there will be two more presidential debates or not. Seems Donald is recovering Bigly and should be healthy enough to debate.

 

With a break every 30mn during the debate

2 hours ago, kwonitoy said:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/04/trump-walter-reed-drive-by-visit-criticism

 

James Phillips, doctor of emergency medicine at George Washington University, who is an attending physician at Walter Reed, called the stunt “insanity”.

“Every single person in the vehicle during that completely unnecessary Presidential ‘drive-by’ just now has to be quarantined for 14 days. They might get sick. They may die,” he wrote in a tweet.

“For political theater. Commanded by Trump to put their lives at risk for theater. This is insanity.”

 

Typical Trump stunt, ME ME ME LOOK at ME

Seriously, "THEY MAY DIE" ?

 

Let's take a look at the secret service risk profile.  I would dare say that none of them will die seeing as the risk profile for someone healthy and under 70 is the same as the risk profile for flu.............. or less.

 

Age Group                                           Probability of Survival

0-19:                                                    99.997%

20-49:                                                  99.98%

50-69:                                                  99.5%

70+:                                                     94.6%

Edited October 5, 20205 yr by steelepulse

13 minutes ago, riclag said:

 This is a pic of him leaving the hospital briefly to show thanks to his faithful .For a couple of days a very large crowd of Patriots  standing outside waving flags ! beeping horns as cars pass bye all in support of the POTUS !

 I seen reports of people coming from different states to be part of the well wishers  !

He is supposed to be in isolation. How many families lost loved ones, couldn't see them or talk to them because of protocol 45 is ignoring? The height of arrogance.