J Town Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, PattayaJames said: He was, the Trump administration at least. He did not say it was absolutely fase, he said it was out of context, which it clearly was not. You're entitled to your own opinion, you're not entitled to your own facts. Seems I heard that from a prominent Republican, seems appropriate here. Thank goodness the days for "alternate facts" are coming to a close. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PattayaJames Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 minute ago, J Town said: You're entitled to your own opinion, you're not entitled to your own facts. Seems I heard that from a prominent Republican, seems appropriate here. Thank goodness the days for "alternate facts" are coming to a close. Please do try to explain what he was talking about in his response to the question: Have you ever seen this big of a coordinated response by an administration? If he in fact was not talking about the Trump administration's response? And you talk of alternate facts LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Town Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, PattayaJames said: Please do try to explain what he was talking about in his response to the question: Have you ever seen this big of a coordinated response by an administration? If he in fact was not talking about the Trump administration's response? And you talk of alternate facts LOL You wear Fox-glasses. Explaining anything to you is a lesson in futility. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RocketDog Posted October 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2020 5 hours ago, J Town said: Just waiting to see how the 45 supporters will spin THIS one. My thought exactly. The only reason I'm reading this thread. They can be very creative when it comes to alternate realities and I get a kick out of it. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PattayaJames Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, J Town said: You wear Fox-glasses. Explaining anything to you is a lesson in futility. Not sure what Fox has to do with it. Trying to explain your position on this should be a lesson in futility. You just need to quote the words he said that would communicate that despite being asked about the Trump administration's response, that in his answer he was NOT talking about the Trump administration's response. Edited October 12, 2020 by PattayaJames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PattayaJames Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, RocketDog said: My thought exactly. The only reason I'm reading this thread. They can be very creative when it comes to alternate realities and I get a kick out of it. I will open it up to you also then: 2 minutes ago, PattayaJames said: You just need to quote the words he said that would communicate that despite being asked about the Trump administration's response, that in his answer he was NOT talking about the Trump administration's response. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted October 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, RocketDog said: My thought exactly. The only reason I'm reading this thread. They can be very creative when it comes to alternate realities and I get a kick out of it. We will miss their spin and creative alternative facts after the election. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Town Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, PattayaJames said: Not sure what Fox has to do with it. Trying to explain your position on this should be a lesson in futility. You just need to quote the words he said that would communicate that despite being asked about the Trump administration's response, that in his answer he was NOT talking about the Trump administration's response. https://deadline.com/2020/10/anthony-fauci-disputes-trump-campaign-ad-claims-taken-out-of-context-used-without-permission-1234595504/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stevenl Posted October 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2020 17 minutes ago, PattayaJames said: Please do try to explain what he was talking about in his response to the question: Have you ever seen this big of a coordinated response by an administration? If he in fact was not talking about the Trump administration's response? And you talk of alternate facts LOL The person speaking the words, who has been totally a-political in this, said they were taken out of context. But you know better. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Town Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 12 minutes ago, stevenl said: The person speaking the words, who has been totally a-political in this, said they were taken out of context. But you know better. Of COURSE they know better. My signature explains it all. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PattayaJames Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 10 minutes ago, stevenl said: The person speaking the words, who has been totally a-political in this, said they were taken out of context. But you know better. Well he seems keen not to be seen to support Trump. So maybe he is trying to be a-political, if so fair enough up to him. Obviously he does not appreciate his words being used as a positive for Trump. However, the fact remains as far as the Trump administration's response goes he said what he said. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, J Town said: Of COURSE they know better. My signature explains it all. On many devices a signature is not visible. I'm in mobile view, and can't see any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post J Town Posted October 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 minute ago, stevenl said: On many devices a signature is not visible. I'm in mobile view, and can't see any. "No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot. ~ Mart Twain" 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lacessit Posted October 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, PattayaJames said: Well it was not completely different was it, at most you could argue he was not talking about Trump as an individual but his administration as a whole. Even the articacal states: he was discussing the broader effort, including by the White House coronavirus task force. As to why Fauci has come out with a statement about it, you would need to ask him. I am guessing it has something to do with the upcoming election LOL Articacal? Oh, you mean article. Covfefe is contagious. Dr. Fauci has disowned the use of his statement in a Trump ad, has said it was intended to describe health professionals. Frontline ones, not the medical sycophants in the White House. Looks like musicians aren't the only ones to get stuck with Trump and his campaign managers misappropriating their words. 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, PattayaJames said: Well he seems keen not to be seen to support Trump. So maybe he is trying to be a-political, if so fair enough up to him. Obviously he does not appreciate his words being used as a positive for Trump. However, the fact remains as far as the Trump administration's response goes he said what he said. No point in this discussion, since you know better than the person who spoke. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketDog Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 16 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: We will miss their spin and creative alternative facts after the election. Not really. While I started out two years ago baffled, then amazed, then enraged at Trump himself, for the last year I've had the same reactions to understanding that roughly one in three people in America think like he does and are simply batรhเt crazy. They will not go away after the election. He has given them a voice and eventually they will find another demagogue to rally around. That makes me fearful for the future of my country. The important thing is that many Americans have awakened to the threat and hopefully will kill it in the crib next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PattayaJames Posted October 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, J Town said: Of COURSE they know better. My signature explains it all. Seems like a personal insult there. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Town Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, PattayaJames said: Well he seems keen not to be seen to support Trump. So maybe he is trying to be a-political, if so fair enough up to him. Obviously he does not appreciate his words being used as a positive for Trump. However, the fact remains as far as the Trump administration's response goes he said what he said. I used your very words as such: "Well maybe being used is a positive for Trump." NOW do you see how taking words out of context isn't fair to the person originating those words? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 minute ago, PattayaJames said: Seems like a personal insult there. You're always at liberty to report it to a moderator. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Town Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, PattayaJames said: Seems like a personal insult there. Not at all if you look at the evidence then understand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PattayaJames Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, J Town said: I used your very words as such: "Well maybe being used is a positive for Trump." NOW do you see how taking words out of context isn't fair to the person originating those words? Your argument is now just ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Town Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 minute ago, PattayaJames said: Your argument is now just ridiculous. So I guess understanding evidence isn't your strong suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lacessit Posted October 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 minute ago, J Town said: Not at all if you look at the evidence then understand. It's a new wrinkle. Twist a statement into an ad hominem attack. Ignoring, of course, the fact Trump sprays them on Twitter like confetti at a wedding. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PattayaJames Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, J Town said: So I guess understanding evidence isn't your strong suit. If you say so. He said what he said. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, PattayaJames said: Your argument is now just ridiculous. Exactly. That's what taking this out of context is. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post J Town Posted October 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, PattayaJames said: If you say so. He said what he said. Dr. Fauci said what he said, then his words were twisted, taken out of context, the 45 ad people created a falsehood. You posted what you posted, I took your words and twisted them, took them out of context to create a falsehood. I really cannot make it any simpler than that. If you don't get it, then you just don't get it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post xylophone Posted October 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2020 Fauci said: The comments attributed to me without my permission in the GOP campaign ad were taken out of context from a broad statement I made months ago about the efforts of federal public health officials," his statement added. Surely that is plain and simple for all to see and Fauci was talking about the efforts of "federal public health officials", that is, when they eventually swung into action. It is pertinent to note that trump played down the virus in January February and March as being "something that would disappear" and "was just like the flu" and not only that, he had disbanded the task force of scientists that Obama had put in place to combat such an event. So for anyone on here, even a "proud boy" to say otherwise is just utter, pure nonsense and tries to gloss over the fact that trump's response was ignorant, late and criminal in nature. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PattayaJames Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 minute ago, J Town said: Dr. Fauci said what he said, then his words were twisted, taken out of context, the 45 ad people created a falsehood. You posted what you posted, I took your words and twisted them, took them out of context to create a falsehood. I really cannot make it any simpler than that. If you don't get it, then you just don't get it. Except they were not taken out of context, or twisted. He was talking about the Trump administration's response and he said what he said. Anyways, I am also done with this subject now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post J Town Posted October 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2020 Just now, PattayaJames said: Except they were not taken out of context, or twisted. He was talking about the Trump administration's response and he said what he said. Anyways, I am also done with this subject now. You obviously didn't bother to look at the link I sent you. 45 supporters always, and I mean ALWAYS, respond in one or more of the following: (D)eny (I)gnore (L)ie (D)eflect (O)bfuscate NOW we're done. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PattayaJames Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, J Town said: You obviously didn't bother to look at the link I sent you. I looked at it, it added NOTHING to the Reuters report in the OP (did you read that?). NOW we're done. Thanks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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