Prostatitis

[Bangkokianbaba]

I am 78. I am suffering a long time in getting dizzy and tired. My general doctor gave me over time different medicines which didn't helped and / or make me more dizzy. The last he prescribed me 2 Mg Doxazosin before bedtime. At the end I went to an urologic who gave me 3 months Doxazosin but 4 Mg! I am getting more and more dizzy and tired although I urinate a bit less in the night. But now I almost cannot walk anymore without a stick, I loose my balance! I take 10 Mg. Melatonin to get into sleep. Since two weeks I have also DTAM cannabis from which I take 5 drops before sleeping. I really don't know how to survive like that!

[tonray]

Prostatitis doesn't make you dizzy. What about prostate enlargment, has your doctor determined if you suffer by BPH (benign prostate hyperplasia) ?

[Surelynot]

The fluid in your semi-circular canals becomes more viscous with age. As you move around it tends to send the 'wrong' signals to the brain due to a sluggish response, this in turn gives rise to the dizziness.

 

Not sure there is anything you can do other than move slowly, take it steady.

 

If you get bouts of dizziness this could be due to debris breaking away inside the semi-circular canals...that usually settles down in a day or two.

 

 

Edited October 16, 2020 by Surelynot

[BritManToo]

15 minutes ago, tonray said:

Prostatitis doesn't make you dizzy.

But Doxazocin does, as it lowers your blood pressure.

I take 6mg every night, and if I start getting excessively dizzy when I stand, reduce the dose to 5mg for a couple of nights.

Edited October 16, 2020 by BritManToo

[Oliver Holzerfilled]

Is the dizziness constant or does it vary with the orientation of your head?

Do you have any other medical conditions?

 

[swm59nj]

Im 65 years old and have BPH since age 40. I do take medication for it every night. The medications you are taking are for BPH. These medications can lower blood pressure and make you dizzy. 

You need to speak to speak to your doctor about this. Were you diagnosed with prostatitis or do you think you have it? Severe cases of prostatitis are treated with antibiotics. I get prostatitis also especially if I eat food is too spicy, or stress. It usually goes away in a few days.

What is confusing is you say you have an issue saying you get dizzy and tired. But you are taking melatonin and cannabis which can make you more dizzy and tired. 

It sounds like you have BPH and being treated for that. But you have other complications. It also sounds like you do not understand about what you are being treated for. Please speak to your doctor about all this.  You probably should not be taking melatonin with the doxazosin.

[swm59nj]

https://www.drugs.com/doxazosin.html

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[Sheryl]

As others have said, the Doxazosin is for an enlarged prostate. It is not for prostatitis and certainly is not prescribed to help with dizziness. In fact, it can cause dizziness, or make it worse,  as a side effect.

 

Why do you think you have prostatitis? Or are you just confusing that with enlraged prostate?

 

Did the dizziness start after you were prescribed doxazosin or was ti there before then?

 

 

[Bangkokianbaba]

THANK you all for your answers! To be clear I couldn't understand the doctor very well, but I understood (he went very very short with his finger in my anus and said that my prostate is very big). That was it and he gave me 4 Mg. Daxazosin for three months. So, after your answers I can understand that it is BPH! 

 

I went to him because I had already some time urinating problems (too many times) in the night and if I couldn't sleep enough because of that I don't know. But I had already a long time problems with increasing "dizziness" which could have been caused by brain problems! I got from my general doctor 20 Mg. Atorvastatin. 

 

My blood pressure which I check quit frequent is jumping up and down I think caused by the medicines but never higher than 150! 

 

My problem is now the increasing dizziness and tiredness and I know that almost all the medicines are causing those problems and I'm getting very, very bored of that because I can almost do nothing anymore and I was a year ago always going somewhere with my camera or working in the garden! 

 

I start investigating the "vitamins" like Ultra Prostate Formule / prostate Gemix and there are lots more! Somebody has some experience with that? 

 

I stop in the mean time with the Melatonin! 

[GroveHillWanderer]

You could ask your doctor for an alternative BPH medicine to see if that helps reduce the dizziness.

 

I used to take alfuzosin which gave me serious dizziness problems. After I mentioned this, my doctor switched me to tamsulosin which actually had a better effect on the symptoms of BPH (for me) and produced no dizziness at all.

[swm59nj]

57 minutes ago, Bangkokianbaba said:

THANK you all for your answers! To be clear I couldn't understand the doctor very well, but I understood (he went very very short with his finger in my anus and said that my prostate is very big). That was it and he gave me 4 Mg. Daxazosin for three months. So, after your answers I can understand that it is BPH! 

 

I went to him because I had already some time urinating problems (too many times) in the night and if I couldn't sleep enough because of that I don't know. But I had already a long time problems with increasing "dizziness" which could have been caused by brain problems! I got from my general doctor 20 Mg. Atorvastatin. 

 

My blood pressure which I check quit frequent is jumping up and down I think caused by the medicines but never higher than 150! 

 

My problem is now the increasing dizziness and tiredness and I know that almost all the medicines are causing those problems and I'm getting very, very bored of that because I can almost do nothing anymore and I was a year ago always going somewhere with my camera or working in the garden! 

 

I start investigating the "vitamins" like Ultra Prostate Formule / prostate Gemix and there are lots more! Somebody has some experience with that? 

 

I stop in the mean time with the Melatonin! 

Have you spoken to your general doctor about all these issues?  You have more issues than BPH. You need to see an internist for a full medical exam. I would stop experimenting with different supplements. People can only give you advice based on what they read or their own experiences. Such as I did. But you need a full medical work up given your age and numerous symptoms.

[Bangkokianbaba]

46 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

You could ask your doctor for an alternative BPH medicine to see if that helps reduce the dizziness.

 

I used to take alfuzosin which gave me serious dizziness problems. After I mentioned this, my doctor switched me to tamsulosin which actually had a better effect on the symptoms of BPH (for me) and produced no dizziness at all.

Yeah! But I cannot find Tamsulosin in a "normal" pharmacy in Bangkok where I live!

[bkk6060]

Sorry to hear OP.

Keep a container next to your bed and pee in it instead of getting up out of bed.

Also, maybe try to get a professional Prostate massage.  It feels good and can give some relief.

Good luck.

[Bangkokianbaba]

12 minutes ago, swm59nj said:

Have you spoken to your general doctor about all these issues?  You have more issues than BPH. You need to see an internist for a full medical exam. I would stop experimenting with different supplements. People can only give you advice based on what they read or their own experiences. Such as I did. But you need a full medical work up given your age and numerous symptoms.

Yeah! I visited various hospitals and spended lots of money and they made also MRI scans. And their answer is: "go to a sleeping doctor"!

[GroveHillWanderer]

26 minutes ago, Bangkokianbaba said:

Yeah! But I cannot find Tamsulosin in a "normal" pharmacy in Bangkok where I live!

I get it from my nearest Fascino pharmacy - I think they're a nationwide chain so they should have outlets in Bangkok. They might need to order it if they don't have it in stock but should be able to do that for you.

[swm59nj]

31 minutes ago, Bangkokianbaba said:

Yeah! I visited various hospitals and spended lots of money and they made also MRI scans. And their answer is: "go to a sleeping doctor"!

So you have been to various hospitals for your issues. They have done tests. And they concluded you have a sleep disorder? Im guessing this was for your tiredness only ? Because that would have nothing to do with BPH, Prostatitis. And you told these hospitals the meds you are taking? And not one of them picked up the fact the dizzy and tiredness could be a side effect from the medication? Or suggested changing your medication.

Edited October 16, 2020 by swm59nj
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[rumak]

57 minutes ago, swm59nj said:

Have you spoken to your general doctor about all these issues?  You have more issues than BPH. You need to see an internist for a full medical exam. I would stop experimenting with different supplements. People can only give you advice based on what they read or their own experiences. Such as I did. But you need a full medical work up given your age and numerous symptoms.

AND............. not every "general doctor"  or specialist has the same knowledge and abilities.   

 

In my book,  the most difficult thing is locating a "good one" !

[rumak]

13 minutes ago, swm59nj said:

So you have been to various hospitals for your issues. They have done tests. And they concluded you have a sleep disorder? Im guessing this was for your tiredness only ? Because that would have nothing to do with BPH, Prostatitis. And you told these hospitals the meds you are taking? And not one of them picked up the fact the dizzy and tiredness could be a side effect from the medication? Or suggested changing your medication.

 

very difficult for me not to offer my usual cynical remark about the medical "profession" .

Different hospitals,  expensive tests,  pills, pills,  and more pills.   

and feeling worse than ever ! 

 

If the OP has anyone who can help guide him through the mine field .... to find one caring, smart doctor who can come up with a true diagnosis , I would surely ask for their help

[Sheryl]

I think we have now established that:

 

OP dies not have prostatitis. He has an enlarged prostate, presumably BPH.

 

2. His dizziness predates the prostate meds.

 

OP:

 

1. Where in Thailand do you live? It may help to see a specialist in vertigo.

 

2. Please list all medications you are on.

 

3. When do you feel dizzy? Is it on changing position? Getting up after lying/sitting down?  When you move your head? Etc

 

 

[owl sees all]

2 minutes ago, rumak said:

 

very difficult for me not to offer my usual cynical remark about the medical "profession" .

Different hospitals,  expensive tests,  pills, pills,  and more pills.   

and feeling worse than ever ! 

 

If the OP has anyone who can help guide him through the mine field .... to find one caring, smart doctor who can come up with a true diagnosis , I would surely ask for their help

Good post.

 

My general advice is stay away from doctors, and their pills. 

 

Thailand is a chemist shop. There are natural remedies out there. Do some reading up and see what Thailand has to offer.

 

Remember, some of these doctors are the most brainwashed professionals in the world, That's if they are doctors at all, and not just bods who have parted with substantial amounts of dosh, at the right time, to an appropriate person.

 

 

[Bangkokianbaba]

7 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

I think we have now established that:

 

OP dies not have prostatitis. He has an enlarged prostate, presumably BPH.

 

2. His dizziness predates the prostate meds.

 

OP:

 

1. Where in Thailand do you live? It may help to see a sowcialist in vertigo.

 

2. Please list all medications you are on.

 

3. When do you feel dizzy? Is it on changing position? Getting up after lying/sitting down?  When you move yoyr head? Etc

 

 

1. BKK

2. only Atorvastatin and Doxazosin

3. Always, the whole day until I go to bed!

[Sheryl]

Well you are in luck in that there are some good specialists in vertigo in Bkk. I will post later as away from my computer now.  

[rumak]

Just now, owl sees all said:

Good post.

 

My general advice is stay away from doctors, and their pills. 

 

Thailand is a chemist shop. There are natural remedies out there. Do some reading up and see what Thailand has to offer.

 

Remember, some of these doctors are the most brainwashed professionals in the world, That's if they are doctors at all, and not just bods who have parted with substantial amounts of dosh, at the right time, to an appropriate person.

 

 

Glad to see that you will be receiving ...........'s.. wrath,  as well as a few others, instead of me   haha

 

Your post is right on.   The sad truth is that people ( the patients) , are also brainwashed .  The art of

critical thinking has never been lower than it is now.   sad sad sad.    It is the rare human that can learn by reading, thinking, and some tough trial and error, what the best long term solution is to the

terrible health most humans are in.

 

If one can start to think and question when young,  that is the best.  If not,  try now.  Heck, can't be much worse than what the OP is going through.    

 

 

 

 

[Bangkokianbaba]

10 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

Well you are in luck in that there are some good specialists in vertigo in Bkk. I will post later as away from my computer now.  

Thank you Sheryl!

 

 

[Bangkokianbaba]

9 minutes ago, rumak said:

Glad to see that you will be receiving ...........'s.. wrath,  as well as a few others, instead of me   haha

 

Your post is right on.   The sad truth is that people ( the patients) , are also brainwashed .  The art of

critical thinking has never been lower than it is now.   sad sad sad.    It is the rare human that can learn by reading, thinking, and some tough trial and error, what the best long term solution is to the

terrible health most humans are in.

 

If one can start to think and question when young,  that is the best.  If not,  try now.  Heck, can't be much worse than what the OP is going through.    

 

 

 

 

I lost a lot of money by a lot of "specialists"! The only one I can trust is the general doctor in Mission who is from Australia!

[Sheryl]

He is American, not Australian. And yes, very good.

 

But for your issue I think it is worth seeing a specialist. If you bring all your prior test results and scans with you it should not cost too much.

 

[rumak]

Just now, Bangkokianbaba said:

I lost a lot of money by a lot of "specialists"! The only one I can trust is the general doctor in Mission who is from Australia!

I hate to hear stories like yours.   But when i dare to give my (very poor) assessment of the treatment one often gets by doctors and hospitals and insurance companies I am  outshouted by the "go see a doctor, you dummy"  crowd.

Keep trying to find a good and caring and patient doctor who will honestly try to get all the facts instead of checking his facebook or his watch when talking ( and maybe listening )  to you.

good luck

[Bangkokianbaba]

9 minutes ago, rumak said:

I hate to hear stories like yours.   But when i dare to give my (very poor) assessment of the treatment one often gets by doctors and hospitals and insurance companies I am  outshouted by the "go see a doctor, you dummy"  crowd.

Keep trying to find a good and caring and patient doctor who will honestly try to get all the facts instead of checking his facebook or his watch when talking ( and maybe listening )  to you.

good luck

THANK you Rumak!!!!!

 

[Sheryl]

https://www.bumrungrad.com/en/doctors/Saowaros-Patarapak

 

Trained in Canada, specializes in vertigo (dizziness)

 

As mentioned bring prior test results and actual films (MRI, CT or whatever you had done) with you to avoid unnecessary repeat tests

[Bangkokianbaba]

9 hours ago, Sheryl said:

https://www.bumrungrad.com/en/doctors/Saowaros-Patarapak

 

Trained in Canada, specializes in vertigo (dizziness)

 

As mentioned bring prior test results and actual films (MRI, CT or whatever you had done) with you to avoid unnecessary repeat tests

THANK you Sheryl!