UK lawmakers worried about lack of Brexit preparations

[snoop1130]

UK lawmakers worried about lack of Brexit preparations

 

FILE PHOTO: Puzzle with printed EU and UK flags is seen in this illustration taken November 13, 2019. REUTERS/Dado Ruvic/Illustration

 

LONDON (Reuters) - Britain’s government may have left it too late for businesses to prepare properly for the end of free movement of goods to and from the European Union, an influential group of lawmakers said on Friday.

 

The British parliament’s Treasury Committee has written to finance minister Rishi Sunak about their concerns over delays setting up computer systems that allow businesses to handle new customs requirements that come into force on Jan. 1.

 

“The Committee came away from its evidence session ... with serious concerns about the UK’s customs preparedness for the end of the Brexit transition period,” committee chair Mel Stride said.

 

“I’ve asked the Chancellor to respond to our concerns as a matter of urgency,” he added.

 

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[Bluespunk]

17 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

 

“I’ve asked the Chancellor to respond to our concerns as a matter of urgency,” he added.

And he promised that johnson will have the red buses out next week with all policies outlined on the sides…

[Loiner]

Scraping the bottom of the Reuters barrel to find something anti-Brexit again today. Nothing much of any substance reported here either, only that a committee thinks it might be able to complain about some possible computer systems delays. The government have been working on the various systems for a few years now.

It's up to the businesses to make their own preparations and they have had four years to do that.

 

[dimitriv]

2 hours ago, Loiner said:

It's up to the businesses to make their own preparations and they have had four years to do that.

 

 

Maybe they didn't do it because they couldn't believe so much stupidity?

 

[RayC]

2 hours ago, Loiner said:

Scraping the bottom of the Reuters barrel to find something anti-Brexit again today.

No anti-EU articles in the Express today?

2 hours ago, Loiner said:

Nothing much of any substance reported here either, only that a committee thinks it might be able to complain about some possible computer systems delays. The government have been working on the various systems for a few years now

Plenty of substance. This infrastructure is needed on 1 January but it may not be ready  on time. Yet another example of Johnson's "world beating" IT excellence. 

2 hours ago, Loiner said:

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It's up to the businesses to make their own preparations and they have had four years to do that.

 

And what were they meant to prepare for? How many contingency plans were they meant to have? Preparation costs time and money.

 

The May government was a joke, but this current administration is woeful. How much more has to go wrong, before the Tory party puts country before party and replaces Johnson?

[elliss]

2 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

And he promised that johnson will have the red buses out next week with all policies outlined on the sides…

 

   As a life long Tory supporter ...

    I would like the big red bus , to be painted Blue ..

 

[billd766]

1 hour ago, dimitriv said:

 

Maybe they didn't do it because they couldn't believe so much stupidity?

 

Then they hae nobody to complain about but themselves.

[Loiner]

48 minutes ago, RayC said:

No anti-EU articles in the Express today?

Plenty of substance. This infrastructure is needed on 1 January but it may not be ready  on time. Yet another example of Johnson's "world beating" IT excellence. 

And what were they meant to prepare for? How many contingency plans were they meant to have? Preparation costs time and money.

 

The May government was a joke, but this current administration is woeful. How much more has to go wrong, before the Tory party puts country before party and replaces Johnson?

 

Need me to find some Express articles for you? Sorry, same answer as link demands - go find your own.

 

The new IT systems have been in place for various departments since middle of last year, when we were last supposed to Leave. There may well be some updates or reconfiguration necessary for the final Brexit status, but the Reuters article doesn't report anything about that.

 

If your business hasn't made it's preparations, more fool you. How could you ever think that things would not change? The combined forces of Remainerism and the EU coming to the rescue of the cosy status quo?

 

Boris is delivering the mandate the Tory party was awarded a landslide majority for. Why would they even consider replacing him?

[RayC]

57 minutes ago, Loiner said:

 

57 minutes ago, Loiner said:

The new IT systems have been in place for various departments since middle of last year, when we were last supposed to Leave. There may well be some updates or reconfiguration necessary for the final Brexit status, but the Reuters article doesn't report anything about that.

And neither do you. Got any evidence to support your claim.

57 minutes ago, Loiner said:

 

If your business hasn't made it's preparations, more fool you. How could you ever think that things would not change?

I'm sure all businesses are aware that things will change. But how? To what?  Got any answers? Thought not? In the meantime, business is meant to prepare for all eventualities. What a waste of time and resources.

57 minutes ago, Loiner said:

The combined forces of Remainerism and the EU coming to the rescue of the cosy status quo?

Meaningless rhetoric.

57 minutes ago, Loiner said:

 

Boris is delivering the mandate the Tory party was awarded a landslide majority for. Why would they even consider replacing him?

Because he is so clearly out of his depth, and it would be in the country's interest to do so.

 

Notwithstanding that, his popularity is plummeting; it will probably be in the Tory party's self-interest to ditch him before too much longer.

[Loiner]

19 minutes ago, RayC said:

 

And neither do you. Got any evidence to support your claim.

I'm sure all businesses are aware that things will change. But how? To what?  Got any answers? Thought not? In the meantime, business is meant to prepare for all eventualities. What a waste of time and resources.

Meaningless rhetoric.

Because he is so clearly out of his depth, and it would be in the country's interest to do so.

 

Notwithstanding that, his popularity is plummeting; it will probably be in the Tory party's self-interest to ditch him before too much longer.

You could always check the relevant government website like DFTA or DTI if you are a non believer. 

 

Business has to prepare for the eventualities. Bad management not to have done. Did you do nothing and just keep moaning in the hope that nothing would change?

 

Boris is standing head and shoulders over his predecessors and opposition. He’s got another four years to go too. 

[melvinmelvin]

39 minutes ago, RayC said:

 

And neither do you. Got any evidence to support your claim.

I'm sure all businesses are aware that things will change. But how? To what?  Got any answers? Thought not? In the meantime, business is meant to prepare for all eventualities. What a waste of time and resources.

Meaningless rhetoric.

Because he is so clearly out of his depth, and it would be in the country's interest to do so.

 

Notwithstanding that, his popularity is plummeting; it will probably be in the Tory party's self-interest to ditch him before too much longer.

 

doubt your dream will substantiate in the near future,

ditch him in return for what/who?

 

could prove somewhat tricky to find capable replacement that are willing now

not a good deal to take over as PM now

 

[RayC]

45 minutes ago, Loiner said:

You could always check the relevant government website like DFTA or DTI if you are a non believer. 

Did a Google. Nothing came up.

45 minutes ago, Loiner said:

 

Business has to prepare for the eventualities. Bad management not to have done.

Avoiding the question as usual. No substance to your answer. How many eventualities? What type? 

45 minutes ago, Loiner said:

Did you do nothing and just keep moaning in the hope that nothing would change?

No. I just want my government to act responsibly and help - not hinder - business in its preparations.

45 minutes ago, Loiner said:

 

Boris is standing head and shoulders over his predecessors and opposition

Not according to most pundits and the general public.

45 minutes ago, Loiner said:

. He’s got another four years to go too. 

Very unlikely.

[Loiner]

1 hour ago, RayC said:

Did a Google. Nothing came up.

Avoiding the question as usual. No substance to your answer. How many eventualities? What type? 

No. I just want my government to act responsibly and help - not hinder - business in its preparations.

Not according to most pundits and the general public.

Very unlikely.

Your poor googling skills are not my problem. You will probably be happy living in ignorance anyway. 

 

For the vast majority of UK business there will be no effects at all. The others would have to prepare for the eventualities that you imagine they are not aware of. Why not give them a call to warn them so they can prepare. 

 

Most pundits have about as much idea as you do. They probably also predicted a Remain vote. 

 

[evadgib]

If they ain't ready by now (4.5 years after ???????? fired the starting gun) they never will be.

[Chomper Higgot]

12 hours ago, Loiner said:

Scraping the bottom of the Reuters barrel to find something anti-Brexit again today. Nothing much of any substance reported here either, only that a committee thinks it might be able to complain about some possible computer systems delays. The government have been working on the various systems for a few years now.

It's up to the businesses to make their own preparations and they have had four years to do that.

 

Reuters are reporting concerns raised by Britain’s Treasury Committee.

 

I accept that might be the bottom of the barrel but not one of Reuters’ barrels.

[Chomper Higgot]

5 hours ago, Loiner said:

Your poor googling skills are not my problem. You will probably be happy living in ignorance anyway. 

 

For the vast majority of UK business there will be no effects at all. The others would have to prepare for the eventualities that you imagine they are not aware of. Why not give them a call to warn them so they can prepare. 

 

Most pundits have about as much idea as you do. They probably also predicted a Remain vote. 

 

The businesses not impacted by Brexit aren’t making any money for the UK.

[jesimps]

I'll bet my shirt that this "influential group of lawmakers" are all remainers who've spent the last several years trying to thwart every bit of pro-Brexit legislation put through parliament. If it's correct that businesses are unprepared for Brexit, then Westminster remainers are the main reason that this is so.

[Surelynot]

I think all you need to do is ask Michael Gove.....he will tell you....."Well I simply don't agree with your analysis".....you will drift off to sleep as he does his Kaa impression.....and all will be well with the world when you wake up.

[Surelynot]

16 minutes ago, jesimps said:

I'll bet my shirt that this "influential group of lawmakers" are all remainers who've spent the last several years trying to thwart every bit of pro-Brexit legislation put through parliament. If it's correct that businesses are unprepared for Brexit, then Westminster remainers are the main reason that this is so.

Do you have a link or evidence for these wild assertions.......chummy, sunbeam, matey....????

[RuamRudy]

13 hours ago, Loiner said:

 

Need me to find some Express articles for you? Sorry, same answer as link demands - go find your own.

 

The new IT systems have been in place for various departments since middle of last year, when we were last supposed to Leave. There may well be some updates or reconfiguration necessary for the final Brexit status, but the Reuters article doesn't report anything about that.

 

If your business hasn't made it's preparations, more fool you. How could you ever think that things would not change? The combined forces of Remainerism and the EU coming to the rescue of the cosy status quo?

 

Boris is delivering the mandate the Tory party was awarded a landslide majority for. Why would they even consider replacing him?

 

I had a mate in college who drove a clapped out VW Jetta. He knew it was junk but he was really proud that it had a Goodman stereo, then considered the cream of boy-racer car stereos. But the fact was that the stereo itself was garbage too; the fascia kept falling off, the sound was distorted and it kept chewing up his tapes. But he still crowed proudly of his Goodman stereo nonetheless.

 

That stereo is your 'landslide majority'. Anyone with a basic understanding of numeracy knows that the significant majority of the UK electorate rejected the Tory party and rejected Johnson. So while they did, indeed, get a ridiculous number of MPs, that does not confer popular support - the true he majority are against them. 

[RuamRudy]

Double post

Edited October 24, 2020 by RuamRudy

[RuamRudy]

12 hours ago, RayC said:

 

And neither do you. Got any evidence to support your claim.

I'm sure all businesses are aware that things will change. But how? To what?  Got any answers? Thought not? In the meantime, business is meant to prepare for all eventualities. What a waste of time and resources.

Meaningless rhetoric.

Because he is so clearly out of his depth, and it would be in the country's interest to do so.

 

Notwithstanding that, his popularity is plummeting; it will probably be in the Tory party's self-interest to ditch him before too much longer.

 

I think that his rampant alcoholism, his incompetence and the security risks posed by his cheating on his current slapper with yet another in a long line of slappers means that he will be pushed as soon as Brexit is in the bag for those small number of people who actually stand to gain from it. 

[Black arab]

15 hours ago, elliss said:

 

   As a life long Tory supporter ...

    I would like the big red bus , to be painted Blue ..

 

I feel sorry for you.

[natway09]

Actually, there is a lot of substance here & they are quite right.

Thousands of decisions & planning that should have been done years ago,

Someone is just waking up to the belated urgency that nothing is in place

[dunroaming]

21 hours ago, Loiner said:

Scraping the bottom of the Reuters barrel to find something anti-Brexit again today. Nothing much of any substance reported here either, only that a committee thinks it might be able to complain about some possible computer systems delays. The government have been working on the various systems for a few years now.

It's up to the businesses to make their own preparations and they have had four years to do that.

 

I made preparations some time a go.  I moved my business base to mainland Europe along with thousands of others that could.  The problem for businesses though is that they don't know what preparations to make because they are not being told by this useless government what the new regulations will be.  They are screaming for clarity but get no response. Why?  Well that is because the government don't know what to prepare for because negotiations are still going on.

 

Easy to blame the businesses but it is, as usual, the government who are failing to come up with any clear instructions.  Does anyone really think that this shower have a clue what they are doing?  Just look at the complete b*lls up they are making of the pandemic! 

 

 

[Loiner]

4 hours ago, RuamRudy said:

 

I had a mate in college who drove a clapped out VW Jetta. He knew it was junk but he was really proud that it had a Goodman stereo, then considered the cream of boy-racer car stereos. But the fact was that the stereo itself was garbage too; the fascia kept falling off, the sound was distorted and it kept chewing up his tapes. But he still crowed proudly of his Goodman stereo nonetheless.

 

That stereo is your 'landslide majority'. Anyone with a basic understanding of numeracy knows that the significant majority of the UK electorate rejected the Tory party and rejected Johnson. So while they did, indeed, get a ridiculous number of MPs, that does not confer popular support - the true he majority are against them. 

 

Did you whinge and complain about your mate's stereo as you are still doing about Boris's win? Maybe you should call and remind him that you hated it.

 

A stonking majority of 80 seats over the combined forces of sub-mediocrity. Even an increase to 48 seats for the yapping SNP still leaves them in parliamentary irrelevance. How did the Garuniad see it?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/13/bombastic-boris-johnson-wins-huge-majority-on-promise-to-get-brexit-done

 

[Loiner]

2 hours ago, natway09 said:

Actually, there is a lot of substance here & they are quite right.

Thousands of decisions & planning that should have been done years ago,

Someone is just waking up to the belated urgency that nothing is in place

 

Because you and the TVF Remainers don't know what the government has been doing for the past four years does not mean they have not been preparing anything. The  Department for Exiting the EU (DExEU), with many others, has been particularly busy since 2016.

 

https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/explainers/brexit-spending-government-preparations

 

 

[puipuitom]

Typical the British Empire:

Want to leave the EU at any costs, but ... of course, still being treated as EU nationals in case of a travel into the EU.

Simple: first get your Schengen visa, and then line up at the appropriate line... Your British passport cannot be checked anymore under EU laws, as YOU, British, so clearly insisted.

 

The government is seeking continued use by UK nationals of the automatic e-gates used by EU nationals at airports and Eurostar terminals. The move is seen by the European commission as an attempt to keep Britons in faster lanes rather than having to queue up with the rest of the world after the end of the transition period.

The commission is adamant that giving UK nationals such a right would breach EU law. “The Schengen border code is restrictive on this,” says one internal EU document seen by the Guardian.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/oct/23/uk-presses-for-use-of-faster-passport-gates-at-eu-airports-post-brexit?utm_term=e519c6f20424635724b1e89f0589c05d&utm_campaign=GuardianTodayUK&utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&CMP=GTUK_email.

 

One advantage: no need for British scientists to travel to EU for the Horizon Europe program, as the UK is out per 01-01-21, 00:00:01.  see https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/oct/22/science-brexit-deal-faces-3bn-hurdle-in-eu-funding-programme-uk-horizon-europe

Edited October 24, 2020 by puipuitom

[puipuitom]

Does the Emperial British Government already published the laws the British foods, toys, electric appliances, sport goods, chemicals etc should apply to ? Or.. just copies of the EU laws and regulations ? Maybe BE instead of CE ? And BReach instead of Reach !  Of course no access anymore to the RASFF  and EFSA databases

Edited October 24, 2020 by puipuitom

[Loiner]

35 minutes ago, dunroaming said:

I made preparations some time a go.  I moved my business base to mainland Europe along with thousands of others that could.  The problem for businesses though is that they don't know what preparations to make because they are not being told by this useless government what the new regulations will be.  They are screaming for clarity but get no response. Why?  Well that is because the government don't know what to prepare for because negotiations are still going on.

 

Easy to blame the businesses but it is, as usual, the government who are failing to come up with any clear instructions.  Does anyone really think that this shower have a clue what they are doing?  Just look at the complete b*lls up they are making of the pandemic! 

 

 

 

Well done mate. Speaking with your feet. Don't wait for the government, run your business as it needs to be done. Now why don't the rest of the Remainers do the same and get out while they think the going is good?

 

Why are you still bothering to post here, don't you have a business to run or something?