U.S. vote count edges Biden closer to win as Trump mounts legal challenges

[welovesundaysatspace]

15 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

Yes, indeed.  Fortunately Trump is a fighter and is calling the Dems on their fraud.

Not surprised that Trump supporters consider it “fraud” when people exercise their right to vote. 

[In the jungle]

Maybe as a white collar criminal they will let him have conjugal visits with his wife Ivanka.

[Jingthing]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

And who slowed the mail?!

 

No need to answer, we already know. 

Exactly. We know. That's the kind of move you expect from authoritarian dictatorships.

[Jingthing]

Just now, In the jungle said:

Maybe as a white collar criminal they will let him have conjugal visits with his wife Ivanka.

I'm sure Eric will visit anyway. Finally alone time with Daddy.

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, In the jungle said:

Maybe as a white collar criminal they will let him have conjugal visits with his wife Ivanka.

I suggest first  asking Ivanka if she’s up for it.

[Susco]

54 minutes ago, JensenZ said:

No, all ballots should all be there to count before the voting stops (at 7pm). It's a big mess and Trump is doing the right thing.

 

Don't know if Pennsylvania has different election laws from the rest of the US, but as far as I'm aware the election law allows mail-n ballots to be posted until closing time on election day, and the post stamp provides prove for that.

 

Even as a Trump supporter, I'm sure you will be aware that something that is sent by post, arrives after it is posted. Not?

[Jingthing]

3 minutes ago, Susco said:

 

Don't know if Pennsylvania has different election laws from the rest of the US, but as far as I'm aware the election law allows mail-n ballots to be posted until closing time on election day, and the post stamp provides prove for that.

 

Even as a Trump supporter, I'm sure you will be aware that something that is sent by post, arrives after it is posted. Not?

Each state has its own laws on such technical date matters.

[Jingthing]

OK.

Big drama in Georgia!

45 has a 18.5k lead.

Only 50K votes still needed to be counted. 

Meaning Biden needs about 70 percent of those 50k.

But coming mostly from heavily democratic precincts.

But 70 percent is alot.

Not making any predictions.

Except its going to be close.

Wow!

 

 

[stevenl]

Seems to be nevade that is going to be decisive.

[Susco]

35 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Each state has its own laws on such technical date matters.

 

Yes I looked it up after your comment, and for Pennsylvania they have to dropped of at certain locations before 8pm on election day.

 

As I believe those drop of point will be spread all over the state, I think it is normal that it takes some time to collect them and transport to the counting location

[Surelynot]

1 hour ago, In the jungle said:

Maybe as a white collar criminal they will let him have conjugal visits with his wife Ivanka.

Can you imagine how horrified she would be if that were the case????

[robblok]

Not sure why people think so much about fraud. Its the US not Thailand. I would not expect large scale fraud in the USA. Certainly not dirty tricks like this. If it comes out then a party is ruined. I mean it would place a huge stain on a party. Also crimes like that are usually committed by a group that always makes it hard to keep it secret. 

 

Seems more that Trump supporters want to stop mailed in ballots as they favor Biden. 

[candide]

26 minutes ago, robblok said:

Not sure why people think so much about fraud. Its the US not Thailand. I would not expect large scale fraud in the USA. Certainly not dirty tricks like this. If it comes out then a party is ruined. I mean it would place a huge stain on a party. Also crimes like that are usually committed by a group that always makes it hard to keep it secret. 

 

Seems more that Trump supporters want to stop mailed in ballots as they favor Biden. 

Obviously not the same Protestant ethics as Dutch Protestants! ????

[billd766]

1 hour ago, Kelsall said:

Yes, indeed.  Fortunately Trump is a fighter and is calling the Dems on their fraud.

What fraud would that be? Trump has been crying fraudent mail in voting without providing ANY evidence to back it up.

 

Just another lie in the 2x,xxx he has pumped out over the last 4 years or so, yet you believe him.

[billd766]

1 hour ago, In the jungle said:

I reckon it is going to take a wooden stake, a crucifix and garlic to finally get him out of the White House.

 

 

Don't forget the bible and the silver bullet.

[ChouDoufu]

3 hours ago, JensenZ said:

No, he'd be a fool if he didn't. He has a duty to nearly 70 million voters to ensure that vote counting is done correctly. The counting of postal votes was supposed to be closely observed by both parties, but they were only allowed to look from a distance. In Pennsylvania they came in with piles of mail ballots after midnight.

 

pennsylvania voting officials wanted to start pre-canvassing ballots prior to election day, but republicans would have none of that!  nosirree, bob!  can't start counting those millions of ballots, can't open the envelopes, until the polls close election night.

 

now they complain it's taking too long?   insane.

 

 

Local counties unable to start prepping mail-in ballots, creating massive backlog

 

BEAVER CO., Pa. — Counties across Pennsylvania have spent months calling on state lawmakers to let them pre-canvas mail-in ballots, which could allow for results to be counted and announced on Election Day.

 

As it stands a few weeks ahead of Nov. 3, that is still prohibited -- putting smaller counties like Beaver in a difficult position.

 

https://www.wpxi.com/news/top-stories/local-counties-unable-start-prepping-mail-in-ballots-creating-massive-backlog/USSFJ7HQPVGV5PM2S6MI2WUN4Q/

Edited November 5, 2020 by ChouDoufu

[ChouDoufu]

2 hours ago, JensenZ said:

Yes, I know, but these aren't army votes. They are piles of mail ballots coming in late in a state that is going slow on counting - a state that is a crucial swing state.

 

late?  state supreme court already ruled ballots postmarked by election day can be received thru friday the 6th.  military and overseas ballots until tuesday the 10th.

[2 is 1]

Trump is like little boy in group, onlyone who have leave whitout lolli!

But i really dont get one thing! How many state have count millions vote's in one day and now they cant count few hundred thousand in one or 2 day!!?

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, stevenl said:

Seems to be nevade that is going to be decisive.

Maybe.

Ballots there can arrive as late as the 10th if postmarked by election day.

But if Biden wins Pennsylvania  Nevada and others would be gravy 

[Jingthing]

3 minutes ago, 2 is 1 said:

Trump is like little boy in group, onlyone who have leave whitout lolli!

But i really dont get one thing! How many state have count millions vote's in one day and now they cant count few hundred thousand in one or 2 day!!?

Machine votes vs. paper mailed in ballots.

 

Next 

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[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

OK.

Big drama in Georgia!

45 has a 18.5k lead.

Only 50K votes still needed to be counted. 

Meaning Biden needs about 70 percent of those 50k.

But coming mostly from heavily democratic precincts.

But 70 percent is alot.

Not making any predictions.

Except its going to be close.

Wow!

 

 

Update could be better news for Biden.

62k to be counted rather than 50k.

[Salerno]

 

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Edited November 5, 2020 by Salerno

[Meat Pie 47]

13 minutes ago, Salerno said:

 

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Yes I read that but it might get deleted by the moderation since you didn't post a source

[Jingthing]

3 minutes ago, Meat Pie 47 said:

Yes I read that but it might get deleted by the moderation since you didn't post a source

Also its so stupid. He's behind in Nevada which under their law will legally count ballots that arrive 10 days after election day.

[Meat Pie 47]

If you think you seen it all then this............

Donald Trump is aiming for an election win with court challenges in Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Georgia. This is how it's looking

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-05/us-election-donald-trump-court-challenges-amid-narrow-race/12854410

[ChouDoufu]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Also its so stupid. He's behind in Nevada which under their law will legally count ballots that arrive 10 days after election day.

 

stop the count?

 

poor old man has confeved penn-sylvania with tran-sylvania!

[Virt]

Looks like he will loose Pennsylvania too.

A headstart of 700.000 votes are dropping fast.

Seems like Biden will win Pennsylvania with about 95.000 votes or so if the trend continues. 

 

Edited November 5, 2020 by Virt
Missed a 0 :D

[JensenZ]

4 hours ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

No, according to the law they don’t have to be there before the voting stops. 
 

No, they just have to get counted. Hardly a mess. 
 

He’s trying every dirty trick as expected to steal the election and violate the people’s right to vote. If you find that “the right thing” be it. 

Just as the Dems were trying to "steal" the election in 2016. Recounts were filed in Nevada (completed), Wisconsin (completed), Michigan (rejected/halted) and Pennsylvania (rejected/halted).

 

I'm using "steal" in inverted commas because it's the right thing to do when you have close contests - on both sides. You can bet your bottom dollar that the Dems would be doing exactly the same or worse if the situation was reversed.

 

Nothing will be stolen. Any legal processes that will eventuate from this will ensure everything is above board.

 

Anyway, if Joe Biden wins, welcome to your first ever female president: Harris. She'll destroy what's left of your country once they "fix" the covid problem.

[jcsmith]

7 minutes ago, JensenZ said:

Just as the Dems were trying to "steal" the election in 2016. Recounts were filed in Nevada (completed), Wisconsin (completed), Michigan (rejected/halted) and Pennsylvania (rejected/halted).

Jill Stein (Green Party) called some of the recounts last time, not Democrats. But either way, recounts are relatively standard in close races. What isn't standard is accusing the other side of fraud with no evidence. Making it so mail in votes couldn't be counted until election day, and then declaring victory before they could be counted. Refusing to say you will accept the results of the election. Or telegraphing that you would claim fraud and declare victory before the election even happened.

Edited November 5, 2020 by jcsmith

[JensenZ]

3 minutes ago, jcsmith said:

Jill Stein (Green Party) called some of the recounts last time, not Democrats. But either way, recounts are relatively standard in close races. What isn't standard is accusing the other side of fraud with no evidence. Making it so mail in votes couldn't be counted until election day, and then declaring victory before they could be counted. Refusing to say you will accept the results of the election. Or telegraphing that you would claim fraud and declare victory before the election even happened.

Obviously evidence will be presented to the court. They will decide to reject it or not. That's what courts are for. If there's no reason, then nothing will happen. You probably read the wrong news as reasons have been given, and Trump doesn't make such decisions without a legal team. If the reasons are not valid, you will find out soon enough.