ATTA urges govt to consider Chinese tourists or risk 2 million people being left jobless

[zaZa9]

So no financial assistance for the unemployed Thai workers , but the Big Boys who own Hotels have their hands out ....

 

"Tourism and Sports Minister Phiphat Ratchakitprakarn was scheduled to meet 15 hotel operators on Monday. He said these operators wanted to know what kind of assistance they can expect from the government."

[Showtime]

I'm sure this is exactly what the Chinese government want.  Go visit Thailand and don't forget to bring Covid back with you.  Oh, that is right you need to quarantine on return too.

[dallen52]

1 hour ago, Henryford said:

Do the Chinese spend any money? or just walk around on pre paid tours.

All those out of work flag wavers..

Not like it's a transferable skill to other employment. 

[IamNoone88]

19 hours ago, webfact said:

He said these operators wanted to know what kind of assistance they can expect from the government.

I think that is an easy answer......

[darrendsd]

18 hours ago, Oldie said:

I don't understand all these discussions anymore. In the meantime they even allow tourists from high risk countries to travel to Thailand. And these countries - as reported for instance about Austria today - drown in Covid cases at the moment and are not blocked. 

 

????

 

That's why they have a mandatory quarantine system in place 

[Barry343]

Why place the population of Thailand at risk, the real news that is coming out of China is that there is no travel between any provinceses as there is claims of covid19 cases in the majority. As for unemployment there are thousand of positions available to migrant workers, cease this and employ Thais, educate and teach the skills that are needed.

 

[Bangkok Barry]

18 hours ago, Cake Monster said:

Now I dont live in China, but unless inter Provincial Travel is banned there, and people are tested on a routine basis 100% of population, then there are no safe provinces.

What nonsense.

 

You don't expect Thais to think logically, do you? They come up with an idea but are totally unable to think it through. Happens over and over again.

[robbioff]

2 hours ago, jaiyen said:

Why do they only want tight ar$e Chinese tourists ?  Most of Australia is covid free but never a mention of wanting them to come back.  Not that they would while the excessive paperwork and quarantine is deemed necessary.

Racism. Whitey is persona non grata

[bkk6060]

1 hour ago, Henryford said:

Do the Chinese spend any money? or just walk around on pre paid tours.

No.

At the height of last year I would argue that the non tour Chinese were catching up to those on tour.

1000' s a day coming and going at The Base Unixx, Centric Sea and a hundred other condos and hotels renting to mostly younger independent Chinese.  

[Time to grow]

The writing is on the wall for all to see. Tourism will never return to it's pre Covid-19 levels. There may be some small amount of tourism rebound but this is not the time to double down on tourism. It is a time to rethink an economy with sustainability and resilience in mind. The paradigm has shifted and a failure to recognize this will be catastrophic going forward.

[newnative]

3 hours ago, jaiyen said:

Why do they only want tight ar$e Chinese tourists ?  Most of Australia is covid free but never a mention of wanting them to come back.  Not that they would while the excessive paperwork and quarantine is deemed necessary.

2019 tourist numbers:  China: 10.95 million.  Australia: 769,000.

[DefaultName]

Tourist money   vs   Thai lives.

How many Thai lives is the tourist yuan worth?

A cynical decision is being made here; "ordinary" Thai lives are in the equation, I'm betting that HISO lives aren't.

[LazySlipper]

19 hours ago, JusticeGB said:

Get rid of the crazy red tape to come to Thailand and then tourists will come back. A covid19 test and covid19 insurance should be enough. Expensive enforced imprisonment in a hotel room for a week followed by being limited to the hotel grounds for a further week is plainly not an enticement to visit Thailand. 

 

That crazy red tape is what has minimized the chances of me catching it, or my wife catching it so far. My friend back home caught it and survived. He told me it was the worst thing that ever happened to him and this guy isn't a wuss. Considering that there are more and more people catching it a second time and that apparently the second time around is worst... My vote is on the side of prudence. What is tourism worth if half the population is down with the virus?

 

We've been safe so far, keep it that way.

[Time to grow]

2 hours ago, adam1 said:

A situation we all thought would last a few months

 

No, I have been saying all along that this situation is not going to end. In fact, it is going to amplify. I am no Nostradamus and my crystal ball is broken but anyone can look at the macro changes facing us and the outcome is clear. It's simply a matter of accepting the obvious.

[Traubert]

5 hours ago, robertson468 said:

This is classical Thai Government thoughtlessness.  How do they prove that Tourists come from these areas only, also that they have not travelled through areas that are still infected by the Virus?  The reason Thailand favours the Chinese so much, apart from the volume of tourists that come here, is that many of them have their roots in China. 

Sounds like a win-win solution to me.

[Cereal]

Smoke and mirrors.....Bread and circuses.....

 

Chinese tourists fly into Thailand on Chinese owned airlines. They get picked up at the airport by buses owned by a Chinese tourism company. They are taken to Chinese owned hotels and eat in Chinese owned restaurants before shopping in Chinese owned stores (unless it's junk food at 7-11 and even then maybe Chinese owned)

 

It's all about import and export leakage. Millions of Chinese tourists do not flood Thailand with billions of baht. The huge majority of their gross expenditures will remain in Chinese hands. 

 

Government figures are misleading at best.

[Traubert]

2 minutes ago, Cereal said:

Smoke and mirrors.....Bread and circuses.....

 

Chinese tourists fly into Thailand on Chinese owned airlines. They get picked up at the airport by buses owned by a Chinese tourism company. They are taken to Chinese owned hotels and eat in Chinese owned restaurants before shopping in Chinese owned stores (unless it's junk food at 7-11 and even then maybe Chinese owned)

 

It's all about import and export leakage. Millions of Chinese tourists do not flood Thailand with billions of baht. The huge majority of their gross expenditures will remain in Chinese hands. 

 

Government figures are misleading at best.

Myth.

 

A popular one but still a myth. The more often you say it doesnt make it true. There's a reason why Thailand wants Chinese tourists.

 

Its like the poster who says there's 2m unemployed in Pattaya. The general population is 84k.

Edited November 17, 2020 by Traubert
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[kiwikeith]

20 hours ago, vivananahuahin said:

If the Chinese authority gives the green light,i don't think so.

He had a meeting with the Chinese Thai Hotel owners because quarantine isn't bringing home the bacon for them 

[Straight8]

19 hours ago, JusticeGB said:

Get rid of the crazy red tape to come to Thailand and then tourists will come back. A covid19 test and covid19 insurance should be enough. Expensive enforced imprisonment in a hotel room for a week followed by being limited to the hotel grounds for a further week is plainly not an enticement to visit Thailand. 

The numbers would already prove this. They know it, we know, everyone knows it.

 

The I'd say a good portion of tourist will not return until "ALL" restrictions are removed, and that includes, Covid19 test letter/declaration [or whatever the <deleted> it will be called] & this special Covid19 insurance. Worst still until the quarantine is in place, then expect only the most desperate to come.

 

[Rancid]

3 hours ago, sydneyjed said:

Agree and why would anyone want to come on holiday and have to quarantine for 14 days..then returne to Australia(for example)and  be forced to quarantine again for 14 days at their own expense costing $3000 AUD?Bloody crazy logic this even by Thai standards and that's saying something!

Currently you need government permission to leave Australia, and holidays is not a reason they accept. That aside perhaps Thailand might consider that is was not Chinese tourists that built their large tourist industry. Obviously their numbers are high when allowed to travel, but much of their spending ends up in Chinese pockets, not Thai.

[overherebc]

5 hours ago, rupert the bear said:

its about whether or not you have the virus not where u come from,so all people except thais coming into the country need a negative covid test,the virus doesnt discriminate,china and here does!lies too.but then we test on arrival too so......follow the train of thought and we get people who are tested twice .before and after entry so theyre free of virus.they can then go and spend their money freely.this is the answer,they should be allowed to quarantine in their own apts or houses if they have access. they are in most countries with in the region,if thats available to them,if not a reasonably priced hotel,the marriotts offering rooms at 1000 b night now so.....the cost of the tests is small .the kits cost 10 bucks each.the service should be provided free as these people are coming here to spend,quit the crazy racist rip offs thailand is so well known for .it will harm the long term nos that i think will never ever recover,why come here really when theres so many other cheaper friendlier options!?

I keep thinking about a certain

' industry ' that officially doesn't exist. If the concentration on Chinese tourists continues to the detriment of UK EU USA  groups keeps going it will eventually go away ( go online/underground ).

In the words of Baldrick, Could this be a cunning plan?

Just sayin'

Edited November 17, 2020 by overherebc

[Road Warrior]

better to be jobless  than DEAD from covid 19 !!!!!

[pmh2009]

I feel sorry for everyone who has lost temporarily and permanently jobs everywhere in the world. It is what COVID 19 has given the world... We  the humans have been so comfortable with our own arrogant techs, innovations and societies that nature now has given a  a thrashing! climates change, viruses, storms, hurricanes ... etc. May nature wipe out all the puny humans! and bring a new world which respects nature!

[Time to grow]

5 minutes ago, pmh2009 said:

May nature wipe out all the puny humans!

 

So many fail to recognize that the planet has limitations. What is unsustainable will not sustain by definition. Infinite growth on a finite planet is not possible. The harder society tries to sustain infinite growth, the quicker we will reach those limitations. It's pretty basic common sense really.

[Dialemco]

Now us not the time to open borders for Chinese or anyone else. It is essential viras kept surpressed amongst Thai People and press Government to ensure that a vaccine is purchased as soon as available for at least 80% of the population so that borders may be opened hopefully for the 2022 season

[Tonypandy]

First of all, any Chinese tourist who comes to Thailand would have to endure a 14 day quarantine on returning to China. The Chinese government don't want thier people travelling overseas at the moment, they thier people to keep thier money in China and spend it there. So even if Thailand open up to Chinese in anyway its unlikely there will be the numbers coming in that are mentioned

21 hours ago, Justgrazing said:

 

so for the next week they'll carry on churning out more nuttiness like above as a dry run ..

 

[Mavideol]

21 hours ago, webfact said:

asking for the government to allow the entry of travellers from 22 provinces in China that are safe from Covid-19.

keep asking, it will not change, the Chinese are smart enough to not fall for such a move as they would have to deal with the infections when their citizens go back, that costs money and Chinese are not willing to waste such a commodity

[overherebc]

15 minutes ago, Time to grow said:

 

So many fail to recognize that the planet has limitations. What is unsustainable will not sustain by definition. Infinite growth on a finite planet is not possible. The harder society tries to sustain infinite growth, the quicker we will reach those limitations. It's pretty basic common sense really.

The only life form that doesn't rely on natural selection.

[Mavideol]

21 hours ago, webfact said:

believes some 2 million people in the tourism industry will end up being unemployed

should we understand they are currently employed, TAT use to claim that up to 10 million people with tourism related jobs were unemployed, it's all very confusing but again, we can't believe one word out of their mouth

[kiwikeith]

1 hour ago, Straight8 said:

The numbers would already prove this. They know it, we know, everyone knows it.

 

The I'd say a good portion of tourist will not return until "ALL" restrictions are removed, and that includes, Covid19 test letter/declaration [or whatever the <deleted> it will be called] & this special Covid19 insurance. Worst still until the quarantine is in place, then expect only the most desperate to come.

 

Listen, if you are Chinese and get the Sino vaccine you won't need any insurance or quarantine, you will however be on a managed tour with a Chinese tour guide and you will shop and stop in Chinese Thai owned venues.