Trump campaign shifts strategy as recount, lawsuit efforts founder

[heybruce]

3 hours ago, simple1 said:

Looks like it's finally over for trump. Chris Christie has called out trump's legal team challenges for the election 'a national embarrassment'. Remember Christie assisted trump with preparing for the election 'debates'. 

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/22/politics/chris-christie-donald-trump-election/index.html

Finally!  A few prominent Republicans are ready to state the obvious.  Better late than never I guess.

[ballpoint]

On 11/21/2020 at 7:12 PM, ChouDoufu said:

 

the united STATES was designed to be state-centric.  the electoral college is a feature, not a bug.

when forming the nation, the individual sovereign states would never have signed up to allowing power to be transferred to a central governement with elections decided by the few populous states.  they needed some mechanism whereby they would remain relevant.

 

this cannot be changed without a constitutional amendment, which of course would require most of the less-populous states to give up what little leverage they retain under the modern system.

If the Electoral College is to be retained, then a fairer system would be to allocate each state's electoral votes according to the people's vote of that state.  Currently, if a state has 6 votes and candidate X gets 51% of the people's vote while candidate Y gets 49%, then all 6 votes go to candidate X.  Hardly fair to the near enough half of the voters who wanted Y.  They should be give 3 electoral votes each.

[ChouDoufu]

8 hours ago, ballpoint said:

If the Electoral College is to be retained, then a fairer system would be to allocate each state's electoral votes according to the people's vote of that state.  Currently, if a state has 6 votes and candidate X gets 51% of the people's vote while candidate Y gets 49%, then all 6 votes go to candidate X.  Hardly fair to the near enough half of the voters who wanted Y.  They should be give 3 electoral votes each.

 

i believe two states, maine and nebraska, allocate their electoral votes by percentage of vote attained.  but that's a state, not national, decision.

 

any national changes to electoral college rules must be by constitutional amendment, which requires enough little states to agree to the changes.

 

so for the foreseeable future..............it is what it is.

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2 hours ago, ChouDoufu said:

 

i believe two states, maine and nebraska, allocate their electoral votes by percentage of vote attained.  but that's a state, not national, decision.

 

any national changes to electoral college rules must be by constitutional amendment, which requires enough little states to agree to the changes.

 

so for the foreseeable future..............it is what it is.

Not exactly. The allocate it by congressional district. Whoever wins the district gets the electoral vote.

[Phulublub]

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Not exactly. The allocate it by congressional district. Whoever wins the district gets the electoral vote.

Also not exactly!  Maine has four votes.  One is given to each of the two districts, the other two go with the person who gains most votes overall.

 

PH

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45 minutes ago, Phulublub said:

Also not exactly!  Maine has four votes.  One is given to each of the two districts, the other two go with the person who gains most votes overall.

 

PH

Well, all the states have an extra 2 votes. But you're right.