webfact Posted December 1, 2020 Posted December 1, 2020 Five killed, including baby, as car ploughs into pedestrian zone in Germany Police officers and workers remove the vehicle involved in the incident at the city center, where a car crashed into pedestrians in Trier, Germany, December 1, 2020. REUTERS/Thilo Schmuelgen BERLIN (Reuters) - Five people including a nine-month-old baby were killed and up to 15 injured on Tuesday when a speeding car ploughed into a pedestrian area in the western German city of Trier in what authorities said appeared to be a deliberate act. Witnesses said people screamed in panic and some were thrown into the air by the car as it crashed through the shopping zone. "We have arrested one person, one vehicle has been secured," police said, adding that a 51-year-old German suspect from the Trier area had been overpowered within minutes of the incident and was now being questioned. Prosecutor Peter Fritzen later told a news conference the suspect had drunk a significant amount of alcohol, and authorities were not working on the assumption that there was any Islamist militant motive to the incident. Trier Mayor Wolfram Leibe said: "It looks as if we are talking about a suspect with mental issues, but we should not pass premature judgement." Authorities said a more thorough assessment of the suspect's mental health would be necessary to determine whether he could be held criminally liable. 2020-12-01T155745Z_1_LOV000MDU70GW_RTRMADV_STREAM-2000-16X9-MP4_GERMANY-CRIME-CRASH-ARMED-POLICE-ROUGH-CUT.MP4 The suspect had spent the last few nights in the vehicle and did not seem to have a fixed address, Trier deputy police chief Franz-Dieter Ankner said. He had borrowed the vehicle, which was registered in someone else's name, and did not appear to have a police record. Mayor Leibe said a nine-month-old baby was among the dead. The interior minister of Rhineland-Palatinate state, Roger Lewentz, said two women aged 25 and 73 and a man, 45, all from Trier, were also killed. Later, police said a fifth person had also died, with German media reporting that the latest victim was a 52-year old woman. Several of the injured were in critical condition. TRUCK ATTACK The incident shocked residents of Germany's oldest town, founded by the Romans more than 2,000 years ago. "We have a driver who ran amok in the city," Leibe told public broadcaster SWR. "I just walked through the city centre and it was just horrible. There is a gym shoe lying on the ground, and the girl it belongs to is dead," he said. He told broadcaster N-TV that people who saw the incident were "totally traumatised". The Trierischer Volksfreund quoted a witness as saying a Range Rover was driving at high speed and people had been thrown through the air. It said the car had Trier plates. Officers scoured the area in search of evidence, backed by police carrying automatic weapons. In the streets, Christmas lights twinkled incongruously. Chancellor Angela Merkel said in a statement: "The news from Trier makes me very sad. My sympathy goes to the families of those whose lives were so suddenly and violently torn away from them. I am also thinking of the people who suffered injuries, in some cases very serious ones, and I wish them strength." Germany has tightened security on pedestrian zones across the country since a truck attack on a Berlin Christmas market in 2016 that killed 12 people and injured dozens. In October 2019, a man opened fire on a synagogue in the city of Halle. After failing to get into the building he went on a rampage outside, killing two people. In February this year a racist gunman killed nine migrants in Hanau near Frankfurt before killing his mother and himself. Germany has closed bars and restaurants as part of steps to fight the coronavirus, but shops and schools are still open. (Reporting by Thomas Seythal, Sabine Siebold, Riham Alkoussa and Madeline Chambers; Writing by Maria Sheahan and Giles Elgood; Editing Angus MacSwan and Rosalba O'Brien) -- © Copyright Reuters 2020-12-02 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 1
Popular Post Thorgal Posted December 2, 2020 Popular Post Posted December 2, 2020 No, it can’t be an Islamist militant motive if the driver had drunk a significant amount of alcohol before the incident... 3
bert bloggs Posted December 2, 2020 Posted December 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Thorgal said: No, it can’t be an Islamist militant motive if the driver had drunk a significant amount of alcohol before the incident... I dont think it is terror related,but makes me laugh that they cant drink ,almost every one i ever met over the years did 1
IgboChief Posted December 2, 2020 Posted December 2, 2020 As far as I can see there is no indication of any terrorist motive. It looks like a very sad incident caused by an heavily intoxicated senior with mental problems. Please stop speculating about "Islamist militants". 1
Popular Post sweatalot Posted December 2, 2020 Popular Post Posted December 2, 2020 I, too was thinking of islamic background immidiately. Drinking alcohol is no evidence of not being muslim. The name and background of the driver might help to make things more clear. It is no surprise that acts like that imitdiately makes one think about muslim terror. I know some will insist on not thinking this way. But political correctness is not helpful may be even dangerous. 3 1 1
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted December 2, 2020 Popular Post Posted December 2, 2020 33 minutes ago, sweatalot said: I, too was thinking of islamic background immidiately. Drinking alcohol is no evidence of not being muslim. The name and background of the driver might help to make things more clear. It is no surprise that acts like that imitdiately makes one think about muslim terror. I know some will insist on not thinking this way. But political correctness is not helpful may be even dangerous. Drinking alcohol is not evidence of being a Muslim. Crashing a car into pedestrians is no evidence of being a Muslim. Biased assumptions are not helpful and may even be dangerous. 5
simple1 Posted December 2, 2020 Posted December 2, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, sweatalot said: I, too was thinking of islamic background immidiately. Drinking alcohol is no evidence of not being muslim. The name and background of the driver might help to make things more clear. It is no surprise that acts like that imitdiately makes one think about muslim terror. I know some will insist on not thinking this way. But political correctness is not helpful may be even dangerous. Take your point, but non Muslims have used their vehicles for murder of innocents; don't know if this is conscious copycat. The far right guy who used his van to kill at a mosque in London is an example, for me it was worth noting he self radicalised in only three weeks from viewing material on the web, similar scenario as some Islamist killers who quickly self radicalise via web content. Edited December 2, 2020 by simple1 2
NanLaew Posted December 2, 2020 Posted December 2, 2020 41 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: 1 hour ago, sweatalot said: I, too was thinking of islamic background immidiately. Drinking alcohol is no evidence of not being muslim. The name and background of the driver might help to make things more clear. It is no surprise that acts like that imitdiately makes one think about muslim terror. I know some will insist on not thinking this way. But political correctness is not helpful may be even dangerous. Drinking alcohol is not evidence of being a Muslim. Crashing a car into pedestrians is no evidence of being a Muslim. Biased assumptions are not helpful and may even be dangerous. Easy there Chomper, it's far to early to deny them their ritual, inevitable "that doesn't sound like a [insert nationality here] name to me" comment.
Popular Post welovesundaysatspace Posted December 2, 2020 Popular Post Posted December 2, 2020 Native German guy. Name Bernd W. 51 years old. Heavily drunk. Lived in the car the days before his attack. Signs of mental illness. ...and our right wing brigade uses it for their hate against other religions. 6 2
NanLaew Posted December 2, 2020 Posted December 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said: Native German guy. Name Bernd W. 51 years old. Heavily drunk. Lived in the car the days before his attack. Signs of mental illness. ...and our right wing brigade uses it for their hate against other religions. You mean like, "Bernd W ? That doesn't sound like a German name to me!" 2
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