Jeffr2 Posted December 23, 2020 Posted December 23, 2020 18 hours ago, ExpatOK said: Yes. Trump's efforts in this area will end up saving millions of lives worldwide. Some are just too blind to see that. He told us it would go away by Easter. He said it was OK not to wear a mask. He was a horrible leader and probably responsible for the deaths of thousands of Americans. Stunning you are blind to this. Please, read this. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/20/us/coronavirus-distancing-deaths.html Quote Lockdown Delays Cost at Least 36,000 Lives, Data Show Even small differences in timing would have prevented the worst exponential growth, which by April had subsumed New York City, New Orleans and other major cities, researchers found.
Jeffr2 Posted December 23, 2020 Posted December 23, 2020 14 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said: "Biden also praised President Donald Trump for his administration's efforts in helping accelerate the process of bringing COVID-19 vaccines to Americans. "I think the administration deserves some credit getting this off the ground with Operation Warp Speed," Biden said. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-receives-covid-19-vaccine-praises-trump-s-operation-warp-speed/ar-BB1c7GTc Turns out it was well handled and worthy of praise after all. Quelle surprise. The key word there is "some". Not full, but SOME. I'd say that's hardly a praise. But I'm sure you read it the other way.
TopDeadSenter Posted December 23, 2020 Posted December 23, 2020 16 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: And yet Pfizer brought out their vaccine with zero input from Trump, and they beat the US companies to it. 16 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: The scientists and directors of Pfizer saw the need for a vaccine and without help from Trump or a single US Dollar they beat every US company to it. So the evidence is you are completely wrong, your claims have zero basis in reality. 16 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: I, like Kelsall also find this fact hilarious. Zero US Dollars, Zero input from Trump and yet Pfizer beat every US company to produce a safe and effective vaccine. It was hilarious. Hilarious because Pfizer IS an American company. "Pfizer Inc. is a New York-based Big Pharma company." https://www.drugwatch.com/manufacturers/pfizer/ " Pfizer Inc. (/ˈfaɪzər/)[3] is an American multinational pharmaceutical corporation. One of the world's largest pharmaceutical companies, it is ranked 57 on the 2018 Fortune 500 list of the largest United States corporations by total revenue.[4][5] Headquartered in Manhattan, Pfizer develops and produces medicines and vaccines for a wide range of medical disciplines, including immunology, oncology, cardiology, endocrinology, and neurology." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pfizer 1 1
Chomper Higgot Posted December 23, 2020 Posted December 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said: It was hilarious. Hilarious because Pfizer IS an American company. "Pfizer Inc. is a New York-based Big Pharma company." https://www.drugwatch.com/manufacturers/pfizer/ " Pfizer Inc. (/ˈfaɪzər/)[3] is an American multinational pharmaceutical corporation. One of the world's largest pharmaceutical companies, it is ranked 57 on the 2018 Fortune 500 list of the largest United States corporations by total revenue.[4][5] Headquartered in Manhattan, Pfizer develops and produces medicines and vaccines for a wide range of medical disciplines, including immunology, oncology, cardiology, endocrinology, and neurology." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pfizer Yes hilarious: https://fortune.com/2020/11/09/pfizer-vaccine-funding-warp-speed-germany/ 1
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted December 23, 2020 Posted December 23, 2020 (edited) The correct and factual point being made above, despite deflections, is that Pfizer consciously accepted NO U.S. government funding to develop its CV vaccine candidate and was NOT part of the feds' Operation Warpspeed... And yet Pfizer, working with their German partner company, was the first western company to develop an approved CV vaccine -- totally without involvement from the Trump Admin. So it oughta be kinda hard for the Trump folks to take any credit for Pfizer. Now, for the record, Pfizer along the way DID sign a purchase agreement with the feds whereby the feds agreed to buy a quantity of Pfizer vaccine doses after the fact, if they ended up being approved, which did happen. But none of that had anything to do with the development of the vaccine or its path to approval. Edited December 23, 2020 by TallGuyJohninBKK 1
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