English name in chanot?

[Kiujunn]

It used to be that your name in the chanot would be written in Thai. 

Your passport number would not be in the chanot.

Is this still the case? 

(Talking about Phrakhanong land office)

How safe is this? After all, there is no official way of transscription of foreign names.

[scubascuba3]

Yes, was in July. Passport numbers change when renewed

[Peterw42]

1 hour ago, Kiujunn said:

After all, there is no official way of transscription of foreign names.

There is an official translation of your name, it involves having a translation of your name certified by the Thai ministry of Foreign Affairs.

An official certified translation is required to get married, get a yellow book etc

[Kiujunn]

17 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

There is an official translation of your name, it involves having a translation of your name certified by the Thai ministry of Foreign Affairs.

An official certified translation is required to get married, get a yellow book etc

I didn't know this. 

How would I proceed to do this? 

Thanks! 

[Delight]

 Out of curiosity are you referencing  a Chanote -which can only detail ownership of  land or a Condominium Title Deed -sometimes and incorrectly called a Chanote.

A Condominium Title Deed ,as the name implies, details the owner (s) of a  condominium apartment.

Edited January 22, 2021 by Delight

[Peterw42]

49 minutes ago, Kiujunn said:

I didn't know this. 

How would I proceed to do this? 

Thanks! 

You may find a local translator that can do a translation and send it off to the MFA in Bangkok for certification, otherwise a trip to the MFA where there are translators in the same building.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Kiujunn]

5 hours ago, Delight said:

 Out of curiosity are you referencing  a Chanote -which can only detail ownership of  land or a Condominium Title Deed -sometimes and incorrectly called a Chanote.

A Condominium Title Deed ,as the name implies, details the owner (s) of a  condominium apartment.

A condominium title deed ????

[Surasak]

19 hours ago, Peterw42 said:

There is an official translation of your name, it involves having a translation of your name certified by the Thai ministry of Foreign Affairs.

An official certified translation is required to get married, get a yellow book etc

My experience regarding translation for marriage and yellow book, marriage was not required and the yellow book was just a simple translation from a local translational shop done while I waited. I don't suggest you are wrong, but we all know municipal offices requirements are different from one end of the country to the other.

[brianthainess]

22 hours ago, Peterw42 said:

There is an official translation of your name, it involves having a translation of your name certified by the Thai ministry of Foreign Affairs.

An official certified translation is required to get married, get a yellow book etc

My wife changed her name to mine and is written in Thai on her ID etc.

[Pilotman]

Just now, brianthainess said:

My wife changed her name to mine and is written in Thai on her ID etc.

as mine

[Peterw42]

14 minutes ago, brianthainess said:

My wife changed her name to mine and is written in Thai on her ID etc.

Did that require an MFA certification ?

[Kiujunn]

36 minutes ago, brianthainess said:

My wife changed her name to mine and is written in Thai on her ID etc.

I have seen this a couple of times (TG married to farang took his name, ID card says "Kanjana Rodriguez" written in Thai, so Thais cannot read it and farang cannot read it)

Edited January 23, 2021 by Kiujunn

[Kiujunn]

Problem is, those farang names like Schmeichel, de Gea, Vidić or Solskjær, if you try to transliterate them back into "English" the result tends to be some undecipherable mess, without much semblancy to the original.

It's easier with names like Robinson or Johnson. 

 

I am surprised I have never heard of problems,  eg from people trying to sell their condo. 

[couchpotato]

My wife changed her name to mine and is written in Thai on her ID etc.

 

You are all getting off the main subject here.

There are no similarities between a farang name on a Chanoot or other document and a Thai lady changing her name to a her husbands surname. Totally different issues.

 

A Thai lady can change her surname on her ID card, Tibbian baan quite easily. The translation into the foreign surname will be done for the first new document (namely the ID card), then that translation is carried through forever on whatever documents she must deal with in the future (could Chanoots, tax filing, local Tessabban requirements etc). Of course the marriage papers (whatever type the person has) will be in her maiden name (this cannot be changed).

 

FYI----my first translation from my farang name into Thai, was done when I was married (many moons ago). Over the years for any documents that need my name in Thai, I have shown this. Therefore (and I feel this is important) the same translation is on all my documents, cards WP etc.

[Scott Tracy]

3 hours ago, Kiujunn said:

have seen this a couple of times (TG married to farang took his name, ID card says "Kanjana Rodriguez" written in Thai, so Thais cannot read it and farang cannot read it)

Edited 2 hours ago by Kiujunn

 

The wife's ID card has her name in both Thai and English.

[couchpotato]

1 hour ago, Scott Tracy said:

 

The wife's ID card has her name in both Thai and English.

Of course it does..all Thai ID cards have Thai/English.

But once again this is not what the OP was asking.

[Delight]

On 1/22/2021 at 1:46 PM, Kiujunn said:

It used to be that your name in the chanot would be written in Thai. 

Your passport number would not be in the chanot.

Is this still the case? 

(Talking about Phrakhanong land office)

How safe is this? After all, there is no official way of transscription of foreign names.

 To answer your Q

 

Thai Language is the only official language in Thailand.

 

The name -my name and the only name  on my Condominium Title Deed  -is written in Thai Script.

The Thai language has about 30 vowel sounds -every vowel   sound has its own script.So foreign language vowel sounds  are easy to write in Thai script.

 

(Unlike the English language which has 20 vowel sounds-represented by 5 symbols.)

 

Most foreign language consonants have their Thai equivalent -so mostly easy.

Consonants and consonants sounds  such as 'Z'   'TH'   'SH'  have no direct  equivalent in the Thai language.

My middle name has in it the 'TH' sound. They simply write it as 'T'

'SH' will be the 'CH' sound which the Thai language has.

 

'X' will be represented as 'AIRKS'  -in Thai script.The AIR will be written in its short option.

Suspect that there is no demand for a symbol to represent the 'Z' sound. Maybe they would use a 'S' sound consonant if pressed.

 

 

 

[KhaoYai]

My name was put in the Chanotte for my property when the Usufruct was registered. The Chanotte is in Thailand and I'm not but I seem to think its in English.  I was never asked for a certified translation of my name - that much I do know.

Edited January 23, 2021 by KhaoYai

[brianthainess]

18 hours ago, Peterw42 said:

Did that require an MFA certification ?

No. what is an MFA? She just went to the Tambon office and got a new ID card. Thais can change their name in 10min But their ID number stays the same.

[AKJeff]

TIT.

My name on the condo title deed was written in English.  When I tried to get a yellow book the Amphoe wanted it in Thai.  I went back to the land office and they translated in into Thai script at the information desk.  Nothing official, just wrote it in pen next to the typed English name.  No passport number anywhere that I can see on the deed.  I also needed my parents' names on the deed.  Their names are written in English with no translation.

 

I should add this was about three and a half years ago in Phetchabun.

Edited January 24, 2021 by AKJeff
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[Kiujunn]

2 hours ago, brianthainess said:

No. what is an MFA? She just went to the Tambon office and got a new ID card. Thais can change their name in 10min But their ID number stays the same.

MFA = Ministry of Foreign Affairs

[Yellowtail]

Make sure you check your translated name by having multiple Thais read it back to you..

 

My translation was spelled differently on my social security account and on my pink ID. When I retired, I had to have this corrected and and had to get a bank account with the correct Thai spelling to collect.