Vaccinated foreigners may be allowed to enter Thailand without quarantine

[JimHuaHin]

Getting the vaccine does not mean that you cannot get, carry or spread COVID-19!!!  Even if the vaccine is effective for an individual, it does not stop that individual from carrying and spreading COVID-19.

[ChakaKhan]

2 hours ago, Crusader said:

only a proposal, but there have been so many already

Much like my search for Love in the LOS ❤️   ????

[ChakaKhan]

2 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

Beyond silly, bordering on insanity.

Sounds like my last thai relationship ????

[FarFlungFalang]

22 minutes ago, happyinthailand said:

Not much point in discussing further until it is established that the vaccine prevents the carrying of the virus.

 

The vaccine works by triggering the immune response once the virus enters the body the vaccine doesn't stop the virus from entering the body I know of no vaccine that stops a virus from entering the body.Do you know of any?

[hotchilli]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

The Ministry of Tourism and Sports is considering plans to attract foreign tourists back to Thailand, and may allow vaccinated foreigners to enter the country without the need for 14 days in quarantine on arrival.

Does being vaccinated mean you cannot carry the infection and thus pass it on to others?

Just asking.

 

[hotchilli]

5 hours ago, Monkeypants said:

So what happens when I want to travel with a child ?

Children don’t get the vaccine 

Qurantine.

[msg4869]

This would bring me back to Thailand. I don't have 15 days to spend in a hotel.

[msg4869]

27 minutes ago, JimHuaHin said:

Getting the vaccine does not mean that you cannot get, carry or spread COVID-19!!!  Even if the vaccine is effective for an individual, it does not stop that individual from carrying and spreading COVID-19.

This is true but the bad thing about Covid-19 is it airborne.

[Neeranam]

5 hours ago, AmySeeker said:

This is upteenth thread of this. It's just a proposal.

 

Nothing will change till Thailand vaccinates it's vulnerable population.

Why vulnerable? Thailand has the best record for Covid cases.

[FarFlungFalang]

31 minutes ago, ChakaKhan said:

Sounds like my last thai relationship ????

Don't stop now Mr Khan you're on a roll.

[FarFlungFalang]

1 hour ago, PaDavid said:

As fake vaccination certificates are already ‘on sale’ who is going to sort the wheat from the chaff?

Not who, but what.The brown envelopes?

[shackleton]

Its not going to happen who are these people thinking up these ideas

Anything to get the Tourist back and make money

Until the Thai people are vaccinated first the old sick vulnerable ect 

Why people in the Tourist sector should be given priority over others wont happen as the Government have already set out the rules on who gets the vaccine first

[eeworldwide]

Actually forget the proposals by thailand and TAT-  the  real delusion is thinking there are tourists of any number at all that can afford to travel here for holidays!!! 
Additionally , the Uk is now demanding quarantine on arrival and probably will for sometime. 
In addition again,  there is still some real concern over  mutant strains and the efficacy of the vaccines to combat them. 
I’d say give it another 18 months before numbers climb up and that’s conservative. 
Realistically, probably more like 2024.  

[thairookie]

5 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

Finally, sense at last - though without supporting airlines it might not work and there's no declaration of what else the 'vaccinated' tourists would have to have to get in. Thailand tends to announce a great idea and then add demands that make not worth the effort. Here's hoping

 

And in India vaccination certificates are for sale at the airport.  

 

 

 

[Peter Denis]

1 hour ago, thailand49 said:

If you read the medical report this is no surprise!  the testing results have already shown it takes months for a individual to build up their immunity it isn't instant once you get your jab to get 95%. The reason it is recommended one continue to wear mask, use of alcohol, social distant.

Given the hysterical scare attitude it is more likely that mandatory vaccination will be ADDED to the other measures to 'control the virus' (an impossible undertaking by the way, but doesn't stop the powers that be, to go that road).

So welcome to the envisioned New Normal > mandatory vaccination and mandatory quarantaine on entering the country.  Mandatory face-masks and social-distancing at any social gathering.  And top that up with the occasional provincial lock-downs when any positive case detected. 

When fear rules, everything suffers...

[flago007]

3 hours ago, Crusader said:

Only a proposal, but there have been so many already.  Does anyone know the possible issues after vaccination? Are there any studies of people who have already been vaccinated?  Is it still possible to be a carrier and pass the virus on after vaccination?  Common sense does not obviously prevail.  No one in until the virus is eradicated and solid proof that the vaccines work properly (and that takes time).  Bit of a bummer too for those of us here who wish to travel abroad...but, so be it. 

But a virus doesn’t just disappear you do understand  that , really got to adapt move forward start living again maybe end of the year 

[FarFlungFalang]

1 hour ago, dave moir said:

Do people not read!?

They tell you the vaccine doesn't stop you getting or spreading Covid 19 so why on earth would you let people bypass quarantine if they are vaccinated?

Because they have money to spend and also studies indicate there is a substantial reduction in the number of infections after vaccination probably due to reduced viral loads and the other alternative is to wait for eradication of the virus which may never happen. 

[flago007]

3 hours ago, Ian C HH said:

Regardless whether TAT will or won’t allow isn’t even CONSIDERING the possibility somewhat dangerous? we already know that certain vaccines only have fifty something percent effectiveness. Potentially then fifty percent vaccinated people are still carriers?

stranger danger. ! 

How do you get 5o% last time I looked 3 European ones that are out are 90, 94 70% effective so please get your facts correct 

[flago007]

1 hour ago, JimHuaHin said:

Getting the vaccine does not mean that you cannot get, carry or spread COVID-19!!!  Even if the vaccine is effective for an individual, it does not stop that individual from carrying and spreading COVID-19.

Sorry trials still on going so nobody knows one way or the other .So  why do people keep saying you can still spred   it .Nobody  was a clue so stop spreding nonsense 

[IamNoone88]

There is a perception that you cannot catch Covid and pass it on once you have been vaccinated. This is untrue at worst and unproven at best. The vaccination only means that you become less sick because you should be more immune. However, it still seems possible to catch and transmit Covid after vaccination. Research is still ongoing. The uniformed are making these demands to open up the borders without the science and research to support it and that is very dangerous at early stage as it could only lead to another massive round of lock downs in the future.

[Bim Smith]

Firstly what will be left of the tourist infrastructure for them to come back too and who would even consider investing in such infrastructure when the government can close borders at a whim. Mass tourism is dead and there will be worse pandemics to come. 

[FarFlungFalang]

8 minutes ago, flago007 said:

How do you get 5o% last time I looked 3 European ones that are out are 90, 94 70% effective so please get your facts correct 

He said "certain vaccines" possibly like the Chinese vaccine with 50% even the Johnson and Johnson vaccine is 60%.

[DirtyFarang]

How about "Vaccination on arrival"  --  FREE. 

 

Of course, TAT and all the rest of them know nothing about giving a little to make a lot. 

 

 

[tandor]

6 hours ago, Olivie said:

They started to understand that no tourists will come to quarantine in Thailand. It took time but they finally get it.

...correct...'please sir, can i have some more vaccine'.

Edited February 2, 2021 by tandor

[FarFlungFalang]

3 minutes ago, Bim Smith said:

Firstly what will be left of the tourist infrastructure for them to come back too and who would even consider investing in such infrastructure when the government can close borders at a whim. Mass tourism is dead and there will be worse pandemics to come. 

The infrastructure is still there it's just been mothballed and when the people return with their money there will be people to welcome them and relieve the tourists of their troublesome burden.

[FarFlungFalang]

2 minutes ago, DirtyFarang said:

How about "Vaccination on arrival"  --  FREE. 

 

Of course, TAT and all the rest of them know nothing about giving a little to make a lot. 

 

 

Won't even have to change the VOA sign much.I'm married to a Thai and can assure you they are quite adept at "giving a little to make a lot."

[FarFlungFalang]

6 minutes ago, DirtyFarang said:

How about "Vaccination on arrival"  --  FREE. 

 

Of course, TAT and all the rest of them know nothing about giving a little to make a lot. 

 

 

I'm married to a Thai and can assure you they are quite adept at "giving a little to make a lot."Sometimes they don't give anything and still manage to make a lot!

[Jumbo1968]

6 hours ago, Monkeypants said:

So what happens when I want to travel with a child ?

Children don’t get the vaccine 

In a similar position, I will have had both jabs by March hopefully I can go private and my Thai partner can have jab but we have a 5 year old son. We have been ‘stuck’ in the U.K. since May last year.

Would he have to go into quarantine or would he be allowed to self isolate ?

[Patong2021]

7 hours ago, Monkeypants said:

So what happens when I want to travel with a child ?

Children don’t get the vaccine 

You will wait until the child is vaccinated.  And yes, in some countries, children will be receiving the vaccine  in 6 months.

[pentagara]

8 minutes ago, DirtyFarang said:

How about "Vaccination on arrival"  --  FREE. 

 

Of course, TAT and all the rest of them know nothing about giving a little to make a lot. 

 

 

This might be a draw for tourists that can't get the jab at home. The only problem is that Thailand doesn't have that much vaccine, like any other country on earth. From a medical perspective this of course would require the same quarantine setup as now, since the immune system takes about two weeks to build up partial immunity. On top, there's the booster shot after three weeks for most vaccines. Any reduction in quarantine would require full immunization with the two shots. Afterwards it might be possible to reduce quarantine down to one week, since the body will start fighting an infection more quickly once you're vaccinated. Basically the whole recovery process for the current version of the Covid virus is fast-tracked once you're fully vaccinated, so a week should be safe.

 

This of course assumes there is a good way to prove someone is vaccinated. There's a reason why Hong Kong constantly needs to suspend flights from India where people regularly happen to be negative before a 6 hour flight and positive after it. Considering incubation periods, that's quite miraculous, unless something fishy is going on.

 

Then, as soon as the majority of the local population is also vaccinated, from a medical perspective it would be ok to remove quarantine completely. This is assuming there's no major mutation coming from the countries that currently spread the infection (mainly North/South America, Europe, Russia, South Africa) which renders the vaccination useles. The more infections a country has, the more chance this country produces a mutation, especially if this country also vaccinates.

 

If a vaccine resistant mutation occurs, we'd be back at square one, with the need to wait for a booster shot. Maybe some countries would be willing to take the risk to skip clinical trials in such a case, if the vaccine booster is similar to the initial vaccine, not sure.