Exclusive: U.S. mulls using law designed to prosecute Mafia against Capitol rioters

[Jingthing]

As I mentioned the current U.S. law isn't nearly robust and specific enough to target the real and present danger of domestic terrorism. That's why the prosecutors of all of the alleged criminals that planned, incited, and carried out the domestic terrorist insurrection at the Capitol need to be somewhat creative in how to pursue charges.

 

Hopefully the current congress will be able to address this legal problem soon:

The latest on Biden’s presidency: Live updates - The Washington Post

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Members call for new laws to fight domestic terrorism as experts warn it will plague the country for the next ’10 to 20 years’

By Karoun Demirjian

 

The Democratic chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee said Thursday that he was confident that Congress would pass new laws to address domestic terrorism in the wake of the Capitol riot, as experts warned that the country would be wrestling with such internal threats for decades to come.

Elizabeth Neumann, a former assistant secretary of homeland security for counterterrorism during the Trump administration, warned lawmakers that there is a “high likelihood” that another domestic terrorist attack would occur in the coming months and that the problem would persist “for the next 10 to 20 years.”

She and other experts encouraged lawmakers to take steps to address that threat by giving prosecutors and regulators new tools to address it, both in the courts and in the online communities where extremist ideas are often exchanged.

 

 

Edited February 4, 2021 by Jingthing

[Edwin Cameron]

The U.S govt. is one huge 'Joke' ,going after a small group of 'Right wingers' and do nothing about all the rioting ,burning buildings, and looting of the 'Far Left', antifa and blm, the whole world DON'T have blinkers over there eyes and can see what's going on. The Rico act was designed for the 'Mafia' and should only be used for them,so let's not B.S the world Biden as you do to mostly everything else and try and be fair.

[candide]

6 minutes ago, Edwin Cameron said:

The U.S govt. is one huge 'Joke' ,going after a small group of 'Right wingers' and do nothing about all the rioting ,burning buildings, and looting of the 'Far Left', antifa and blm, the whole world DON'T have blinkers over there eyes and can see what's going on. The Rico act was designed for the 'Mafia' and should only be used for them,so let's not B.S the world Biden as you do to mostly everything else and try and be fair.

The whole world! Wow! ????

[Jingthing]

24 minutes ago, Edwin Cameron said:

The U.S govt. is one huge 'Joke' ,going after a small group of 'Right wingers' and do nothing about all the rioting ,burning buildings, and looting of the 'Far Left', antifa and blm, the whole world DON'T have blinkers over there eyes and can see what's going on. The Rico act was designed for the 'Mafia' and should only be used for them,so let's not B.S the world Biden as you do to mostly everything else and try and be fair.

The RICO act has been used MOSTLY in different kinds of cases than "mafia" so there is good precedent for doing so. I agree more targeted specific laws for domestic terrorists are needed.

 

Refer to the fourth sentence in this link for confirmation of the above assertion:

Criminal Law Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) Law :: Justia

 

As far as your assertion that nothing was done about rioters related to racial unrest, you're just totally wrong. But in my experience, people trying to make false equivalents between BLM and the domestic terrorist insurrection on the U.S. capitol usually aren't interested in facts.

 

Police arrest 69 following Capitol riot, far fewer than BLM protests (businessinsider.com)

Edited February 4, 2021 by Jingthing

[bendejo]

This is not the first time the past 4 years that the RICO Act has come up in bringing 45 to justice.

 

There is no domestic terrorism in the US, it's called freedom of speech.  Just talk about your love of the Constitution and hug the flag, it's like the Catholic Act of Contrition.  Ask any of those Constitutional scholars who trashed the Capitol building.  If the president who called for it is not brought to justice, it leaves a crater in US history for when people look back on this in the future.

 

 

[J Town]

7 hours ago, ExpatOK said:

For President Trump to be "locked up," he would have to be convicted of a crime and then sentenced.  There is nothing to indicate those two things will happen.

Not on the federal level. Wait until SDNY gets their hands on him.

[bronzedude]

18 hours ago, tgw said:

 

for some there were also violence against people and police officers... all offenses together would surely land them in jail for a year or two?

 

and for all the other passive followers, what would be an adequate sentence in your opinion?

For all the people who trepassed, take away their right to vote!

[Nout]

This is the beginning of the leftist attacks on freedom of speech. The war on domestic terror is a lie.  To equate the Proud Boys with Al Qada is stupid. One kills people en mass and carries out terrorist atrocities. The other offends extreme left wing liberals by their thoughts, speech and ideas. AND STILL The leftist won't deal with the ANTIFA BLM rioters. The hypocrisy is blatant and on show to the whole world.

[Stargeezr]

Every single one of the people who broke into the Capital building, were at the very least, trespassers and they have to all be charged with at least that crime. They should have their passports revoked, so at least they cannot leave the USA for any reason.  It may take many months to charge them all, but so be it.  The ones that broke anything should have many additional charges. The ones who were shouting to kill someone or harm some one, or did harm  any of the guards or staff, or law and military, should get more additional charges.  All of their faces should be shown on TV to maybe put some shame on them for what they were doing, as not one of them were heroes of any type.  They are all losers and criminals who broke into a government building.    Trump should be held responsible for inciting them all as well.  His supporters should  be all ashamed for continuing to support him at all after this even if he did some  better things in the start of his time as a politician. His shameful ending, should just be that, a final ending. That is my opinion anyway.

Geezer

  

 

[ExpatOK]

6 hours ago, Stargrazer9889 said:

Every single one of the people who broke into the Capital building, were at the very least, trespassers

and they have to all be charged with at least that crime. They should have their passports

revoked, so at least they cannot leave the USA for any reason.  It may take many months to

charge them all, but so be it.  The ones that broke anything should have many additional

charges. The ones who were shouting to kill someone or harm some one, or did harm 

any of the guards or staff, or law and military, should get more additional charges.  All

of their faces should be shown on TV to maybe put some shame on them for what

they were doing, as not one of them were heroes of any type.  They are all losers and criminals

who broke into a government building.    Trump should be held responsible for inciting them

all as well.  His supporters should  be all ashamed for continuing to support him at all after

this even if he did some  better things in the start of his time as a politician. His shameful ending, should just be that, a final ending. That is my opinion anyway.

Geezer

  

 

President Trump did not incite them. Watch his speech again.

[candide]

7 hours ago, Nout said:

This is the beginning of the leftist attacks on freedom of speech. The war on domestic terror is a lie.  To equate the Proud Boys with Al Qada is stupid. One kills people en mass and carries out terrorist atrocities. The other offends extreme left wing liberals by their thoughts, speech and ideas. AND STILL The leftist won't deal with the ANTIFA BLM rioters. The hypocrisy is blatant and on show to the whole world.

It may not compare to al Qaida but its real and not new.

https://www.csis.org/analysis/escalating-terrorism-problem-united-states

[Eric Loh]

19 minutes ago, ExpatOK said:

President Trump did not incite them. Watch his speech again.

Done that. He did incite. You just a denier. 

[Phoenix Rising]

38 minutes ago, ExpatOK said:

President Trump did not incite them. Watch his speech again.

First you have to define which alternate reality you exist in.

[J Town]

10 hours ago, ExpatOK said:

And you need to stop watching CNN and rachel madsow for starters.

You are yet wrong again - If I hear that voice, I switch channels.

[Scott]

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[pegman]

 Whatever it takes to incarcerate the Don and his co-conspirators like Cruz, Harley, Rudy, Jr and the rest.

[Surelynot]

1 minute ago, pegman said:

 Whatever it takes to incarcerate the Don and his co-conspirators like Cruz, Harley, Rudy, Jr and the rest.

Cruz especially