Probe into Death of Vaccinated Senior Monk

[Peter Denis]

UPDATE: Reports now say the monk died just a few hours after receiving the vaccine.

A 71 year old monk died just a few hours after he was injected with the Covid-19 vaccine while 3 other monks at the same temple, Wat Samphanthawong Moranaphap in Bangkok, were taken to the hospital sometime after being injected with the vaccine to be treated for a high fever. One of them complained of chest tightness and difficulty breathing.

Medical examiners will do an autopsy of the deceased monk’s body to determine if his death is related to the Covid-19 vaccine. Health officials did not say which vaccine the monk received, but a report from Nation Thailand said the AstraZeneca vaccine is administered to monks of 60 while the Sinovac vaccine is given to those 18 to 59 years old.

At another Bangkok temple, Wat Traimit Withayaram Worawihan, 151 monks received their Covid-19 vaccine. No side effects were reported. The vaccinated monks are still advised to practice social distancing and to wear face masks, Deputy Public Health Minister Satit Pituthecha says.

> https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/monk-dies-after-getting-covid-19-vaccine-3-others-treated-at-the-hospital

 

[onthedarkside]

A coronavirus misinformation post, a trolling post and several others have been removed.

 

[DJBenz]

On 4/3/2021 at 11:37 AM, Peter Denis said:

Go to > https://vaers.hhs.gov/index.html

It's the official government site for reporting Vaccine Adverse Events.

It contains +50.000 COVID reports (as of 23 March 2021).

 

 

“VAERS is a passive reporting system, meaning it relies on individuals to send in reports of their experiences to CDC and [the Food and Drug Administration]. VAERS is not designed to determine if a vaccine caused a health problem, but is especially useful for detecting unusual or unexpected patterns of adverse event reporting that might indicate a possible safety problem with a vaccine.”

 

“ The report of an adverse event to VAERS is not documentation that a vaccine caused the event.”

 

[geisha]

Anyone can have an allergic reaction to any médicament and vaccins. Fortunately , it is very rare. So far I think there have been reports of 60 people ( mostly aged) having blood clots. When scientifically researched, this is less (!!!) than the average of people having blood clots WITHOUT a vaccin. Considering the many millions of people vaccinated ( I think the figures were 550 million last week) this is a very small risk , especially if you compare that to the risk of having Covid disease. I would suggest reading the medication description you are taking for your different problems, you’d be surprised the amount of indications of reactions and allergies ! 

[ThailandRyan]

2 hours ago, geisha said:

Anyone can have an allergic reaction to any médicament and vaccins. Fortunately , it is very rare. So far I think there have been reports of 60 people ( mostly aged) having blood clots. When scientifically researched, this is less (!!!) than the average of people having blood clots WITHOUT a vaccin. Considering the many millions of people vaccinated ( I think the figures were 550 million last week) this is a very small risk , especially if you compare that to the risk of having Covid disease. I would suggest reading the medication description you are taking for your different problems, you’d be surprised the amount of indications of reactions and allergies ! 

A death is a death, don't whitewash it. It may he acceptable to you but with new vaccines that are very weekly understood as far as true efficacy goes, it needs to be investigated and discussed, not brushed under the carpet.

[Janner1]

On 4/3/2021 at 2:40 AM, vandeventer said:

Did he have both vaccines and did he die from a blood clot? I hope the truth comes out as there are many of us over 70 on this forum

Yes and sadly most believe the fake news instead of looking up and correctly reading the published scientific truths.

It’s all out there and being updated almost hourly.

The likelihood is that this monk simply died of his underlying health issues and his age, but let’s all wait for Anutin’s hopefully  “ HONEST “ statement on the exact cause of of his death.

[Peter Denis]

The ban in Germany and other countries for the Astra Zeneca vaccine is for people UNDER 60 years of age.

 

Some excerpts below from a Financial Times article from 4 days ago

https://www.ft.com/content/6e1774a8-2e22-4d20-a31d-b83e47e8b880

 

"The German government has decided that the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine should be used only on people over the age of 60 amid concerns over possible side-effects.

 

The decision was taken on Tuesday evening by federal and regional health ministers. The text of the decision said those younger than 60 could still receive the jab, but only “at their doctor’s discretion” and at their own risk.

...

Germany’s main vaccine agency, the Paul Ehrlich Institute, had reported 31 cases of a rare brain blood clot occurring in people who had received the AstraZeneca vaccine. Nine of them died."

 

Edited April 4, 2021 by onthedarkside
quoted content corrected for fair use

[Bkk Brian]

5 hours ago, Peter Denis said:

The ban in Germany and other countries for the Astra Zeneca vaccine is for people UNDER 60 years of age.

 

Some excerpts below from a Financial Times article from 4 days ago

https://www.ft.com/content/6e1774a8-2e22-4d20-a31d-b83e47e8b880

 

"The German government has decided that the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine should be used only on people over the age of 60 amid concerns over possible side-effects.

 

The decision was taken on Tuesday evening by federal and regional health ministers. The text of the decision said those younger than 60 could still receive the jab, but only “at their doctor’s discretion” and at their own risk.

...

Germany’s main vaccine agency, the Paul Ehrlich Institute, had reported 31 cases of a rare brain blood clot occurring in people who had received the AstraZeneca vaccine. Nine of them died."

 

In my view the accumulating evidence which also now of course includes the cases in the UK is all pointing to this link with AZ. I can see restrictions or advice for this vaccine being amended soon worldwide.

 

For countries with a large covid spread such as the UK the risk of not taking it is worse but for countries with minimal spread then one has to wonder if it should be given until this has been fully ironed out or at least have restrictions on who to give it to? 

 

I'm no expert its just my initial thoughts and they are not backed up with stats so I'm open really.

[Puccini]

On 4/2/2021 at 8:43 AM, webfact said:

"People should not panic about the matter and should be vaccinated. However, please wait for the result of the autopsy on the cause of the death. It will be announced..."

Do I understand correctly that the Minister of Public Health is asking the population to postpone getting their Covid-19 vaccination until the autopsy results ar announced?

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

There were several EN language news reports Sunday dealing with the death of the monk, mostly detailing the serious medical problems he had prior to being vaccinated, and then speculation the vaccine wasn't the cause. But it doesn't sound like a final, formal autopsy report and results have been released as yet.

 

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10157926548022050

 

 

"The Priest Hospital said the death of Pra Kru Siripanya Medhi of Wat Sampanthawong temple in Bangkok might have been due to underlying causes, not Covid-19 vaccine.

 

Hospital Director Dr Chumni Jittreprasert cited the monk's medical record, saying he had diabetes, high cholesterol and high blood pressure. He had received 15 years of continuous treatment at Priest Hospital, and had been diagnosed with enlarged heart disease in 2018-19.

 

He said the unofficial autopsy report of Police General Hospital found coronary artery stenosis, which is a condition often caused by wear and tear due to age and this could have caused his death."

 

And...Richard Barrow summarizing another news headline:

 

https://www.facebook.com/richardbarrowthailand/posts/305393230946947

 

 

 

 

Edited April 4, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

And there was an update thread posted elsewhere in the forum earlier today:

 

 

BTW, the BKK Post reported on Saturday that the monk had received the AstraZeneca vaccine, not the Chinese Sinovac one that is prevalent in Thailand.

 

The Thai MoPH / DDC included this chart in the video (at the 28 min point) of their news conference on Sunday on Thai vaccine dose allocations from Feb. 28 through April 3, by vaccine type.:

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/470988516420706/videos/3762406723808805

 

 

[rken2]

wait until you see whats coming from the vaccines. How they will try and cover it up will be interesting. Probably blaming it on new strains and the need for more vaccines. 

[tifino]

22 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

BTW, the BKK Post reported on Saturday that the monk had received the AstraZeneca vaccine, not the Chinese Sinovac one that is prevalent in Thailand.

ah! - so the Monk was simply unlucky

- as of the 2 different Jabs; the Sinovac is the only one that is a true vaccine... 

[englishoak]

People die, even monks. 

[foreverlomsak]

On 4/3/2021 at 5:16 PM, ThailandRyan said:

He isn't the first in the world to die after being vaccinated.

and he definitely won't be the last.

But was it the vaccines fault directly or indirectly, some people do get wound up over injections that it could cause heart problems, when I need an injection for anything my BP goes sky high even though I take medication daily to control my BP.

[kwilco]

On 4/3/2021 at 11:00 AM, Moonlover said:

You have some evidence of this do you? How about some references.

Why do you ask for evidence? It is there for any who bothers to look. So look for yourself..or do you have evidence to the contrary?

[Moonlover]

36 minutes ago, kwilco said:

On 4/3/2021 at 5:00 PM, Moonlover said:

You have some evidence of this do you? How about some references.

 

36 minutes ago, kwilco said:

Why do you ask for evidence? It is there for any who bothers to look. So look for yourself..or do you have evidence to the contrary?

I ask for evidence because a lot of people waffle on this forum. I assume from your answer that your are among them, unless you can produce some evidence. The onus is not on me to provide the proof.

 

 

[kwilco]

5 hours ago, Moonlover said:

 

I ask for evidence because a lot of people waffle on this forum. I assume from your answer that your are among them, unless you can produce some evidence. The onus is not on me to provide the proof.

 

 

Me neither...if you think it's wrong, supply evidence to the country.

[Moonlover]

4 hours ago, kwilco said:

10 hours ago, Moonlover said:

 

I ask for evidence because a lot of people waffle on this forum. I assume from your answer that your are among them, unless you can produce some evidence. The onus is not on me to provide the proof.

 

4 hours ago, kwilco said:

Me neither...if you think it's wrong, supply evidence to the country.

Then we will have to call that an impasse. By the way, have you seen the BBC Panorama programme about the shambolic mess in a top UK PCR testing centre? It's horrific. Be careful where you throw your stones.

 

Have a safe day.

[Hooplehead]

As I have DVT, I daily read the blood clot forums, and the one stand out is in the last month, every other person with a new blood clot is a young (20's-30's) female on birth control who've just been vaccinated. Before a month ago, maybe one post every few months. So something is going on at least from the perspective of the DVT community.

[Peter Denis]

5 hours ago, Hooplehead said:

As I have DVT, I daily read the blood clot forums, and the one stand out is in the last month, every other person with a new blood clot is a young (20's-30's) female on birth control who've just been vaccinated. Before a month ago, maybe one post every few months. So something is going on at least from the perspective of the DVT community.

Attached below the link to VAERS, which I posted earlier in this thread.

 

Go to > https://vaers.hhs.gov/index.html

It's the official government site for reporting Vaccine Adverse Events.

It contains now +57.000 COVID reports (as of 3 April 2021).

As the data collected on it are not always easily searchable you can also go to

> https://www.openvaers.com/covid-data?fbclid=IwAR13k1EC87zOKKcRmZS3qX_UxTRQ8ynoHUuDGxHfVFPOc9iwOq-0n-jdR_k

 

In reponse to my earlier post, another poster @DJBenz correctly remarked that

- “VAERS is a passive reporting system, meaning it relies on individuals to send in reports of their experiences to CDC and [the Food and Drug Administration]. VAERS is not designed to determine if a vaccine caused a health problem, but is especially useful for detecting unusual or unexpected patterns of adverse event reporting that might indicate a possible safety problem with a vaccine.”

and that

- “The report of an adverse event to VAERS is not documentation that a vaccine caused the event.”

 

The main purpose of VAERS is its 'early signalling' function.

Take a look at the graph below, which shows the 'deaths per million vaccinations' since 2006. 

 

[DJBenz]

8 hours ago, Peter Denis said:

The main purpose of VAERS is its 'early signalling' function.

Take a look at the graph below, which shows the 'deaths per million vaccinations' since 2006. 

 

A huge spike during a time the country is administering hundreds of millions of vaccines above the normal levels and at a time the anti-vax  movement is trying to have its moment in the limelight on a system we already established is open to abuse isn’t particularly surprising. 
 

One doctor even reported that a flu vaccine had turned him into a giant green monster to illustrate how unreliable the system is. 

 

Plus, of course, it’s the go-to “proof” for the anti-vax movement that vaccines are bad. 

https://www.vice.com/en/article/qjpmp7/anti-vaxxers-misuse-federal-data-to-falsely-claim-covid-vaccines-are-dangerous