Must Read Thailand's capital plans 10,000 field-hospital beds as COVID-19 spikes

[Jeffr2]

4 minutes ago, dbrenn said:

Stay on topic, which is field hospitals, and their usefulness. 

109% about field hospitals.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jan/27/empty-nightingale-hospitals-government-healthcare-staff

 

The empty Nightingale hospitals show the cost of putting buildings before people

Edited April 11, 2021 by Jeffr2

[ThailandRyan]

3 minutes ago, dbrenn said:

And rather than mocking please make an intelligent contribution or rebuttal to the point I made, if you are capable of doing so.

This OP is about Thailand and not the UK, stay on track please, as Hospitals are filling up and beds are needed, ergo the need for the field hospitals here in Bangkok.

[Excel]

35 minutes ago, dbrenn said:

This is a news group, not a dissertation. Fact is, the Nightingale hospitals weren't needed, and were closed down or repurposed.

This is a Thailand thread, not about UK facilities. Nor about Italian facilities that proved inadequate

[dbrenn]

2 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/21/nurse-shortage-causes-nightingale-hospital-to-turn-away-patients

 

Nurse shortage causes Nightingale hospital to turn away patients

Ah, The Guardian. That lefty political rag. Need we say more? 

 

But even if tge report is accurate, it reinforces my point that field hospitals in the UK were unnecessary, and were a panic driven overreaction by the bungling government - as was everything else Covid related. 

[dbrenn]

1 minute ago, ThailandRyan said:

This OP is about Thailand and not the UK, stay on track please, as Hospitals are filling up and beds are needed, ergo the need for the field hospitals here in Bangkok.

Why not look at a precedent of how pointless field hospitals were elsewhere? Doing so will save Thailand a great deal of wasted time and money. 

[Bkk Brian]

10 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

Yeah. Hardly anyone died in the UK from Covid. Definitely not needed.  LOL

Leave him to it, its a classic damned if they do, damned if they don't situation that some simply fail to understand

[Jeffr2]

3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Leave him to it, its a classic damned if they do, damned if they don't situation that some simply fail to understand

Yeah. Anyone who believes this....from his post:

 

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a panic driven overreaction by the bungling government

 

Hardly a pandemic driven by an overreaction. Wow.

[ThailandRyan]

5 minutes ago, dbrenn said:

Why not look at a precedent of how pointless field hospitals were elsewhere? Doing so will save Thailand a great deal of wasted time and money. 

You have missed the point completely Sir.  Elsewhere is not here.  Field Hospitals have been used here in the past, in Samut Sakhon, and will be used again as the hospitals are full and bed space is needed.  Thailand will not be letting people isolate at home if positive for Covid.  So at least get that point straight.

[unblocktheplanet]

How about the Chinese model? They threw together REAL hospitals in weeks. Maybe those engineers might like Thailand!

[Surelynot]

7 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

You have missed the point completely Sir.  Elsewhere is not here.  Field Hospitals have been used here in the past, in Samut Sakhon, and will be used again as the hospitals are full and bed space is needed.  Thailand will not be letting people isolate at home if positive for Covid.  So at least get that point straight.

Allowing covid patients into normal hospitals will be a monumental mistake..........how many people contracted (and died) by catching covid in UK hospitals? 

[ThailandRyan]

2 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

Allowing covid patients into normal hospitals will be a monumental mistake..........how many people contracted (and died) by catching covid in UK hospitals? 

They have designated Covid Ward's here.  The hospitals always have taken in all patients through a main entry, what they do with them afterwards and how they continually clean the hospital ER's and main lobbies is something I have watched at not only BNH hospital here in BKK, but Bumrungrad as well.

[Surelynot]

3 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

They have designated Covid Ward's here.  The hospitals always have taken in all patients through a main entry, what they do with them afterwards and how they continually clean the hospital ER's and main lobbies is something I have watched at not only BNH hospital here in BKK, but Bumrungrad as well.

Might be they have done a much better job than the UK.

 

Exclusive: More than 10,000 patients caught Covid-19 while being treated in hospital (Telegraph December 2020)

Edited April 11, 2021 by Surelynot

[Soikhaonoiken]

What the hell is this Government doing, hospitals short on test, only planning field hospitals,  same as they planned to vaccinate             10 million a month,  they planned to purchase 100 million vaccine, nothing ever comes from the plans they make, this Government is all talk, and full of BS. 

[wasabi]

I am not surprised this large wave is happening I am only surprised it took so long? Have the numbers always been high but incidents of death and severe illness were low in Thailand so they've swept it under the rug? So why is this being reported now since there may have been thousands a day happening here since Covid first came to Thailand? I doubt they have had any statistically meaningful idea how widespread the virus is in Thailand throughout this pandemic. 

 

For the most part people are good about wearing masks here that might be why the virulence of the virus hasn't been as deadly as other places because I certainly don't see anything beside theater and reactive measures happening here.

[dbrenn]

8 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

Hardly a pandemic driven by an overreaction. Wow.

Well a lot of doctors and scientists certainly think so, but you only believe what you read in political rags like The Guardian.

 

Isolate yourself with a pile of Guardian back issues if it makes you feel better. 

Edited April 11, 2021 by dbrenn

[dbrenn]

8 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

You have missed the point completely Sir.  Elsewhere is not here.  Field Hospitals have been used here in the past, in Samut Sakhon, and will be used again as the hospitals are full and bed space is needed.  Thailand will not be letting people isolate at home if positive for Covid.  So at least get that point straight.

Thailand has this rather unusual policy of hospitalising anyone who tests positive for covid, even if they're asymptomatic, as the vast majority of people who catch covid are. 

 

For that reason alone, field hospitals probably will be necessary. To house people in stifling hot tents who are otherwise fit and well, depriving care to those who are truly at risk.

[hotchilli]

16 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

Be fair, we in the UK built or converted two ruddy great Nightingale hospitals at a cost of £220 million to the taxpayer for the surge that we never appeared to use. Least Thailand's cost is just soldier labour moving beds.

It was nice to see Prayut so concerned he donated his bed to a field hospital.

[Rimmer]

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[The Man Who Sold the World]

Well, Thai news reports that anyone who tests positive regardless of symptoms, mild, asymptomatic, goes directly to the hospital or in this case the filed hospital. Showing a picture of a very large/huge auditorium/warehouse with beds (wooden frames on posts with thin mattresses), minimal spacing, aisles running between rows of these "beds".  No entertainment. 

 

So, asymptotic folk will be stuck sitting on these beds with their attention fixed on their smartphones. 

 

Yup, horrible accommodations to care for the "Sick".

 

   

[Surelynot]

2 minutes ago, The Man Who Sold the World said:

goes directly to the hospital

In effect forced quarantined.........this is a big step????

[ThailandRyan]

17 minutes ago, The Man Who Sold the World said:

Well, Thai news reports that anyone who tests positive regardless of symptoms, mild, asymptomatic, goes directly to the hospital or in this case the filed hospital. Showing a picture of a very large/huge auditorium/warehouse with beds (wooden frames on posts with thin mattresses), minimal spacing, aisles running between rows of these "beds".  No entertainment. 

 

So, asymptotic folk will be stuck sitting on these beds with their attention fixed on their smartphones. 

 

Yup, horrible accommodations to care for the "Sick".

 

   

That's the way Thailand does it, no other way works for them.