Story Of My Thai Citizenship Application

[onthemoon]

19 hours ago, GarryP said:

Had that been proposed by any other person in the government, I would have thought it a good idea. However, I would not trust Anutin as far as I could throw him and on top of that, there have been a number of instances where he has come across as xenophobic (to put it sort of politely). Not really the person you would want in control of establishing a new PR and citizenship policy.

This is one thing where I agree with Anutin. I had discussions with different govt people about PR and citizenship and the whole inefficiency of the processes, but nobody wants to put energy into changing it as there are many Ministries and Departments involved, and they would have to coordinate and convince. With everything in one department, we would have somebody to talk to.

[onthemoon]

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[moochai87]

Hey all. I haven't posted here in a while but I just want to provide you all with an update. 

 

I had my MOI interview in Nonthaburi in August last year (2024). I was expecting a similar experience to my other interviews but it was actually pretty rough. The SB officer handling my case told me I wouldn't need to sing the national or royal anthem (as I'm married to a Thai with kids) so stupidly I didn't practice for that - because I was asked to sing. Luckily I know the national anthem anyway but I wasn't able to complete the royal anthem. The official in charge was pretty strict and criticized me for not standing up straight enough when singing and how I should have worn yellow... etc. There was something about me he didn't like. I left that day feeling pretty disappointed.

 

Anyway, I left it a few weeks then I asked the SB officer if there was any update. He informed me that the application was sent to Bangkok MOI for signing, much to my suprise. It's been there for at least 6 months.

 

Just so the rest of the process goes as smoothly as possible, can you let me know what to expect if I get to the oath ceremony. What should I learn for this?

 

Congratulations to all those who have obtained citizenship already!

[GarryP]

6 hours ago, moochai87 said:

Hey all. I haven't posted here in a while but I just want to provide you all with an update. 

 

I had my MOI interview in Nonthaburi in August last year (2024). I was expecting a similar experience to my other interviews but it was actually pretty rough. The SB officer handling my case told me I wouldn't need to sing the national or royal anthem (as I'm married to a Thai with kids) so stupidly I didn't practice for that - because I was asked to sing. Luckily I know the national anthem anyway but I wasn't able to complete the royal anthem. The official in charge was pretty strict and criticized me for not standing up straight enough when singing and how I should have worn yellow... etc. There was something about me he didn't like. I left that day feeling pretty disappointed.

 

Anyway, I left it a few weeks then I asked the SB officer if there was any update. He informed me that the application was sent to Bangkok MOI for signing, much to my suprise. It's been there for at least 6 months.

 

Just so the rest of the process goes as smoothly as possible, can you let me know what to expect if I get to the oath ceremony. What should I learn for this?

 

Congratulations to all those who have obtained citizenship already!

That is scary if you applied based on marriage, rather than PR. I think most people applying based on marriage understand that they are not required to sing the anthems. Had that happened back during my interview, I would be screwed as I can't sing either and even if I knew the words, my singing would have been a pain to the ears of all who had to listen. On the other hand, it is my understanding that if you are applying based on PR, then whether or not you are married to a Thai, you will be required to sing the anthems.  

[onthemoon]

6 hours ago, moochai87 said:

Hey all. I haven't posted here in a while but I just want to provide you all with an update. 

 

I had my MOI interview in Nonthaburi in August last year (2024). I was expecting a similar experience to my other interviews but it was actually pretty rough. The SB officer handling my case told me I wouldn't need to sing the national or royal anthem (as I'm married to a Thai with kids) so stupidly I didn't practice for that - because I was asked to sing. Luckily I know the national anthem anyway but I wasn't able to complete the royal anthem. The official in charge was pretty strict and criticized me for not standing up straight enough when singing and how I should have worn yellow... etc. There was something about me he didn't like. I left that day feeling pretty disappointed.

 

Anyway, I left it a few weeks then I asked the SB officer if there was any update. He informed me that the application was sent to Bangkok MOI for signing, much to my suprise. It's been there for at least 6 months.

 

Just so the rest of the process goes as smoothly as possible, can you let me know what to expect if I get to the oath ceremony. What should I learn for this?

 

Congratulations to all those who have obtained citizenship already!

 

I had my interview 30 August 2024, too. The mic was taped to the desk. I stood up straight for the songs - that's basic politeness when you sing a national anthem or a royal anthem! I had to sing very loud so that the mic could pick it up, so I think maybe that's why you didn't stand up straight. A bit hunched over? Hm.

 

I was not questioned about my attire or asked to wear yellow; I wore a blue suit and tie as I had read here was considered appropriate, and there were no comments about that.

 

I think it must have been the same batch of officers. So, I am surprised about your negative experience. I found them very polite and professional.

 

I talked to the MOI office only recently, and the documents are still in the process. They couldn't say yet when I will be invited for the next step, the oath ceremony, as "many people" still have to sign. I have a vague hope that I'll get to take the oath still within this year.

[moochai87]

2 hours ago, onthemoon said:

 

I had my interview 30 August 2024, too. The mic was taped to the desk. I stood up straight for the songs - that's basic politeness when you sing a national anthem or a royal anthem! I had to sing very loud so that the mic could pick it up, so I think maybe that's why you didn't stand up straight. A bit hunched over? Hm.

 

I was not questioned about my attire or asked to wear yellow; I wore a blue suit and tie as I had read here was considered appropriate, and there were no comments about that.

 

I think it must have been the same batch of officers. So, I am surprised about your negative experience. I found them very polite and professional.

 

I talked to the MOI office only recently, and the documents are still in the process. They couldn't say yet when I will be invited for the next step, the oath ceremony, as "many people" still have to sign. I have a vague hope that I'll get to take the oath still within this year.

You did it in Nonthaburi? Yes I did stand btw, I just didn't have my back at the right angle I guess.

[onthemoon]

22 hours ago, moochai87 said:

You did it in Nonthaburi? Yes I did stand btw, I just didn't have my back at the right angle I guess.

 

I did it in Lamlukka. I just saw this is in Pathum Thani. You mean they also take interviews in Nonthaburi? I didn't know that, I thought there is only one place in Thailand where the conduct the interviews.

[THAIJAMES]

2 hours ago, onthemoon said:

 

I did it in Lamlukka. I just saw this is in Pathum Thani. You mean they also take interviews in Nonthaburi? I didn't know that, I thought there is only one place in Thailand where the conduct the interviews.

I did mine in Chiang Mai I think every province can accept citizenship applications and do the MOI interviews. Not that they're all well prepare to handle it, but The officers in Chiang Mai we're very professional.