Thailand reports 2,438 coronavirus cases, daily record of 11 deaths

[ThailandRyan]

4 minutes ago, anchadian said:

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/thailands-prime-minster-asked-to-reconsider-another-national-lockdown/

 

Thailand’s prime minster asked to reconsider another national lockdown

April 25, 2021

 

A group of Thai medical professionals has issued a statement, asking the country’s prime minster to reconsider locking down the country again as a matter of urgency, citing the rapid spread of the latest wave of COVID-19 infections and fears that the medical system will collapse.

 

The statement also criticizes the government’s management ability, saying the 1668 hotline, which is supposed to help find beds for COVID-19 patients, is an indicator that management is failing. It also said that people do not have equal access to treatment, and some are paying for that with their lives.

 

Truthful statements, loss of FACE, and now it is time to step down Prayut.

[Clarkey611]

1 hour ago, champers said:

There is an argument to say that the figure translates as more people of working age are catching the virus and unless they are all working from home (not likely) they are mixing with more others than a retired senior would. Obviously, it then follows that they are more infectious. 

Just look at the number of cars out on the roads in Bangkok and this will show you that a very limited number of people are working from home. Last year at this time there were a fewer number of cars on the road.

[herfiehandbag]

2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Watching this helplessly is all we can do, the powers that be appear to have relinquished control to provincial governors instead and washed their hands of the lockdown decisions that are needed now.

Perhaps inevitable - they will claim that as the decisions on controlling (or attempting to control) the epidemic are devolved to provincial level, it is not their fault.

 

It would be interesting to know to what extent the Provincial Governers and their staffs have access to the professional advisers which central government have? Not much I'll bet.

[herfiehandbag]

1 hour ago, shackleton said:

Leadership from the Prime Minister lacking here

On stricter Corivirus Measures required

Seems to be passing the buck to the Provincial Governors for them to impose the restrictions in their Provinces 

Can wriggle out of the blame game that way...

[gjoo888]

Three people on my small soi in Bangkok have tested positive after becoming ill and were taken to the hospital, and there's a good chance 3 or 4 more people will test positive. Plus, one large family whose parents were at the nightly parties left a few days ago for Phuket. These people have ignored all the protocols including mask wearing and having almost nightly parties for the last couple of weeks, with many of their friends who don't live on the soi joining in. All this was after the international school where they all worked was shut down because of positive cases where many of them were exposed. Their complete disregard for rules and protocols is mind-boggling, and shows exactly how the virus is easily spread.

 

Btw, none of these people were Thai.

Edited April 25, 2021 by gjoo888

[sambum]

5 hours ago, Kaopad999 said:

RIP to those who passed away. 

This is absolutely out  of control yet   still no word of full a national lock-down?
 

 

No,  it's not -  the PM  said it was under control so it must be! ????

Edited April 25, 2021 by blackcab
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[Taswegian23]

4 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Truthful statements, loss of FACE, and now it is time to step down Prayut.

 

The trap has been sprung perhaps???

 

[Taswegian23]

4 hours ago, sambum said:

 

No,  it's not -  the PM  said it was under control so it must be! ????

 

Neither will there be I suspect. Bown paper envelopes already been delivered.

 

 

The question must always be asked...  Qui Bono?

 

... So ask the question...

Edited April 25, 2021 by Taswegian23

[brianthainess]

4 hours ago, Dmaxdan said:

Down from yesterday. The threat of heavy fines for not wearing a face mask is clearly already taking affect.

I think its down to not having a beer with my fried rice ????

[spetersen]

4 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

In another order issued overnight aimed at freeing up more beds in the country's emerging network of COVID field hospitals, the Ministry of Public Health ruled that COVID patients with no symptoms or minor symptoms can be allowed to serve the last few days of their quarantine recovering at home.

 

The order means a COVID patient with no symptoms would be allowed to leave after 10 days instead of 14 days, and instead spend the remaining days at home. A similar arrangement would be allowed for COVID patients with mild symptoms, once they have progressed in their field hospital stay and been symptom free for 24-48 hours.

 

Under the government's current policy, anyone testing positive for COVID is required to be assigned to a hospital bed or alternate hospital facility, such as the makeshift field hospitals, until they have recovered. Under the government's rules, only patients with no symptoms or mild symptoms -- who still can be contagious with COVID -- are supposed to be assigned to the field hospital facilities.

 

https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/posts/312248753726789

 

People with mild symptoms should just stay at home PERIOD. Why occupie  hospital bed’s for minor symptoms ,  and stay at home until you don’t have any symptoms for 3-5 days.

[anchadian]

Thai PBS World

@ThaiPBSWorld

 

Anutin Charnvirakul, called an urgent meeting today to tackle the lack of hospital beds and to discuss the plan to set up a patient reception and screening (triage) centre before they are sent to hospital or isolation, as befits their condition

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/thai-health-ministry-wants-to-turn-hua-mark-indoor-stadium-into-a-covid-19-triage-center/

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

8 minutes ago, spetersen said:

People with mild symptoms should just stay at home PERIOD. Why occupie  hospital bed’s for minor symptoms ,  and stay at home until you don’t have any symptoms for 3-5 days.

 

The MoPH broached a quarantine at home proposal about a week ago that only would have been allowed for asymptomatic younger people who live alone, don't have any preexisting conditions and various other rules. But nothing has been heard of that since, and instead today we got a different rule enacted that would allow asymptomatic patients in general to be released from field hospitals after 10 days.

 

The problem in the past has been, there tended to be pretty poor compliance when COVID positive Thais were sent home with the request to isolate and follow other public health rules. Shortly thereafter, they were out socializing at night and posting photos on their social media pages. Also, for many Thai homes, it can be hard to physically isolate an infected person from all the others living there.

 

Edited April 25, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[ThailandRyan]

42 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Thai PBS World

@ThaiPBSWorld

 

Anutin Charnvirakul, called an urgent meeting today to tackle the lack of hospital beds and to discuss the plan to set up a patient reception and screening (triage) centre before they are sent to hospital or isolation, as befits their condition

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/thai-health-ministry-wants-to-turn-hua-mark-indoor-stadium-into-a-covid-19-triage-center/

Add this to the fire:

"507 cases are severe and 138 of them are on ventilators"

 

So much for his crystal ball prediction of 2 weeks and the clusters from Thonglor would be over.  What really meant was within 2 weeks the Thonglor cluster would be ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.

[digger70]

Thailand reports 2,438 coronavirus cases, daily record of 11 deaths. 

 

No good for us to whinge about it, things aren't going to change the Govment will do what they want even if it's Wrong. 

[Harveyboy]

4 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

I sure hope that they have the hospitalization issues fixed and have enough staff as it appears that the staff is even being infected.  Just saw that Chonburi is sending all patients over to Sattahip and that the Chonburi medical staff has some folks that are infected as well.  You have to wonder if they were intake staff and the folks they were dealing with have also lied about their contacts.  If this keeps up, there will be no medical personnel left to help those in need.  Starting to sound like the first wave that ran through China, then the US, UK, and Eu as it took out medical staff.  Pure ugliness.

just my luck ive been waiting months to see a specialist at Satahip hospital  got appointment for next week ..guess who's not going 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Per The Nation:

 

"The Disease Control Department on Sunday decided to suspend the arrival of all foreigners from India, Pakistan and Bangladesh due to concerns about an emerging new strain of Covid-19.

 

Meanwhile, all foreigners already travelling from these three countries have to be strictly quarantined for 14 days."

 

https://www.facebook.com/NationNews/posts/10157936779046937

 

 

And on a related issue:

 

"The spokesperson of the Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration (CCSA), Dr Taweesin Visanuyothin, has debunked a rumour that wealthy Indians were booking charter flights to fly to Thailand after a huge surge in cases in India exceeding 300,000 daily.

 

He said that there would be four charter flights to evacuate Thai people in India until May --- one person on May 1, 70 on May 8, 60 on May 15, and the fourth group on May 22 for which people are yet to register."

 

Edited April 25, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

"45 provinces in Thailand are now issuing fines for anyone who fails to wear a face mask when leaving their home.

 

The list of provinces enforcing the rules has just been updated today by the Ministry of Interior (Thailand).

The fine for not wearing a mask when out in public is up to 20,000 THB.

 

The mandatory wearing of face masks applies to both indoor and outdoor public spaces."

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/thailandprd/posts/4202625806427468

 

 

[Nismooo]

12 minutes ago, gjoo888 said:

Three people on my small soi in Bangkok have tested positive after becoming ill and were taken to the hospital, and there's a good chance 3 or 4 more people will test positive. Plus, one large family whose parents were at the nightly parties left a few days ago for Phuket. These people have ignored all the protocols including mask wearing and having almost nightly parties for the last couple of weeks, with many of their friends who don't live on the soi joining in. All this was after the international school where they all worked was shut down because of positive cases where many of them were exposed. Their complete disregard for rules and protocols is mind-boggling, and shows exactly how the virus is easily spread.

 

Btw, none of these people were Thai.

Im not surprised at all. 

 

Seen this myself too many times... none of those were Thai either.

 

And no, im not blaming only foreigners since there are quite a lot decent ones, even in here that seem to follow the rules and beyond even. 

 

However, fact is there are still a lot of deniers that after totally ruined their own home countries, complaining about lockdowns and alco bans, they now want to come here and ruin Thailand aswell. Despite their first hand knowledge on covid, how easy it spread and the destruction that comes with it. 

 

Then there are the local so called “Hi sos”. I dont see them as deniers/conspiracy theorists, i just see them as uninformed/stupid. I mean, they dont have any first hand experience on covid YET since Thai controlled it well during last year by closing borders + lockdown. Do you really think these Thong Lor cluster people will start talking about 5g chips inside the vaccines after this outbreak? I dont think so. 

 

So to all the foreigners in here that follow the rules, that dont spread disinformation online, contribute to the society by raising awareness, even some of them helping out locals during this difficult times, my full respect to you.

 

To all you ridiculous deniers that i see on here everyday try to spread disinformation even though your arguments are so weak that even a 5 year old could counter them, just go away you hippies.

[Bkk Brian]

1 hour ago, rabas said:

Check here. Also note his comments on how people wrongly underestimate testing.

 

https://github.com/djay/covidthailand/#tests-per-confirmed-case

Read that yes but the raw data he scrapes on all tests means just that, all tests, this will include all the multiple tests done on each person, all the tests done before you fly out of Thailand etc. The scraped data does not filter this so its a far higher number than the actual tests per person done for the specific categories of "walk ins" Pro active"

 

The daily situation reports are the official tests per person, thats why they publish it daily, whats the point of publishing it otherwise?

 

Correct?

 

While I have no doubt he is good at scraping raw data, this does not mean he is correct in his interpretation of that data

Edited April 25, 2021 by Bkk Brian

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

21 minutes ago, Nismooo said:

Im not surprised at all. 

 

Seen this myself too many times... none of those were Thai either.

 

I believe, the MoPH has reported that the vast majority of COVID cases in Thailand thus far have been Thais, followed by a substantial number of Myanmar people. In comparison, western farangs are barely a blip on the statistical screen... not to say there are not some out there.

 

A recent breakdown was:

Of all cases reported thus far, 66.2% were Thai, 29.8% Myanmar and 4% other.

 

Edited April 25, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[Petey11]

5 hours ago, Sametboy2019 said:

Don't understand why they just don't have a lockdown for 10-14 days To get a grip on it.

I'm seeing people on FB travelling around Thailand still.

Think 10-14 day lockdown wouldn't scratch the surface of it. Look around the world at countries affected by the B.1.1.7 variant. UK lockdown to a certain extent of 3 months plus vaccine rollout. Europe going through lock downs. A Turkish government minister arguing that a total lockdown wont control the new variant alone so were going to open up tourism. This variant is a totally different beast to the original virus unfortunately. The sooner the Thai government gets their heads out from their proverbial behinds and looks at what happened in other countries with this variant, and learn the lessons from other countries mistakes, the better.

Edited April 25, 2021 by Petey11
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[Susco]

5 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

Noisy case numbers again...but at least in a good direction. Hopefully we see a positive trend develop soon.

 

I knew you would be here as one of the first responders, which wouldn't have been the case if the numbers had increased.

 

The good direction you are claiming, is also called the weekend direction, because as during every weekend, there is less activity in testing, so numbers will be lower.

 

Let's see on Tuesday when the Monday numbers are reported

[phills2k1]

24 minutes ago, Nismooo said:

Im not surprised at all. 

 

Seen this myself too many times... none of those were Thai either.

 

And no, im not blaming only foreigners since there are quite a lot decent ones, even in here that seem to follow the rules and beyond even. 

 

However, fact is there are still a lot of deniers that after totally ruined their own home countries, complaining about lockdowns and alco bans, they now want to come here and ruin Thailand aswell. Despite their first hand knowledge on covid, how easy it spread and the destruction that comes with it. 

 

Then there are the local so called “Hi sos”. I dont see them as deniers/conspiracy theorists, i just see them as uninformed/stupid. I mean, they dont have any first hand experience on covid YET since Thai controlled it well during last year by closing borders + lockdown. Do you really think these Thong Lor cluster people will start talking about 5g chips inside the vaccines after this outbreak? I dont think so. 

 

So to all the foreigners in here that follow the rules, that dont spread disinformation online, contribute to the society by raising awareness, even some of them helping out locals during this difficult times, my full respect to you.

 

To all you ridiculous deniers that i see on here everyday try to spread disinformation even though your arguments are so weak that even a 5 year old could counter them, just go away you hippies.

 

It's just so disheartening.  I'm younger (in my 30's) and had been lucky enough to travel here multiple times the past few years. After my first extended trip, I knew I had to end up here eventually. And then as things deteriorated in the US to the point where I realized there was no hope for the country, that clinched it (and that was before covid)

 

I had a great business opportunity and came over, knowing how to respect the culture and doing everything I could to do so (I won't even cross my legs anymore when sitting, lest I point my feet), putting in the effort to to learn as much of the language as quickly as possible, and now it's all for f*cking nothing. All to sit here and witness the same exact mistakes and destruction I had to live through last year, only this time the country won't be able to rebound quite like my old one has.

 

Where to add insult to injury, the few times I walk the streets, I can feel the gaze of others judging me for being a farang, as if I'm responsible for this

[Petey11]

4 hours ago, anchadian said:

Thai News Reports

@ThaiNewsReports

 

Bangsaen Beach in Chonburi will be closed from 26-30 April so that officials can do a big clean by spraying disinfectant in the beach area to boost the confidence of citizens and tourists #ThaiNewsReports #Thailand

 

Be better to spend the money on vaccines, testing and ramping up hospital capacity!

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

CCSA under fire for allegedly misleading public over hospital bed situation in Thailand

 

"The director of the Thoracic Society of Thailand, under Royal Patronage, Dr.Nitipat Jiarakul, has taken CCSA to task over the claim that there are sufficient hospital beds to meet the demand represented by increasing COVID-19 infections.

 

He also called on CCSA to provide accurate facts about hospital beds, vis-à-vis the actual capacity of medical services in Thailand.

In his Facebook post early Sunday morning, Dr. Nitipat cited the case of an 85-year old woman, who was in a critical condition due to COVID-19, and who had to isolate at home because no ambulance was sent to rush her to a hospital, adding that he wondered how many other such cases there are.

...

He also said he wonders why his patient had to wait eight days at home and still could not get a hospital bed."

 

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/ccsa-under-fire-for-allegedly-misleading-public-over-hospital-bed-situation-in-thailand/

 

[phills2k1]

Sorry, I know complaining doesn't help and everyone is going through this at the same time, but seeing the covid deniers spread their idiocy and then potentially being lumped in with them solely for being a farang is beyond frustrating

[Cake Monster]

5 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Horrible numbers, I think we're going to range in the late 2000's for another day or so before unfortunately dog legging up to take us into the 3000's. 

 

Hospital beds going to be at critical stage. I'm disgusted at this Governments lack of will do do the right thing.

The Government does not lack a will to do the right thing.

It has to be remembered that these are self elected people who believe they are capable of running a Country such as Thailand.

History is in the making, and it will show for all time how wrong these deluded Individuals are in their own poor abilities at being able to do the right thing.

[Dialemco]

Looks like expected infections after Songkran. Lock down also looks inevitable until infections under control. If possible vaccination roll out to be expedited to cover entire nation.

[Nismooo]

3 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

I believe, the MoPH has reported that the vast majority of COVID cases in Thailand thus far have been Thais, followed by a substantial number of Myanmar people. In comparison, western farangs are barely a blip on the statistical screen... not to say there are not some out there.

 

I am aware of that but i was referring to the people that i have seen walking around without masks and ignoring health guidelines. Those have so far been foreigners. (Westerners and non-westerners)

 

And then judging from what some people say here, many would choose not to get tested even if they have slight symptoms in fear of being forced to go to a field hospital.  

 

I dont believe for a second that covid deniers would be first in line to get tested, would you? 

 

Then on the other hand, the foreigners that are being careful probably have much less risk to get covid so they wouldnt even need to get tested in many cases. 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Also from ThaiPBS today:

 

Thai Health Ministry wants to turn Hua Mark indoor stadium into a COVID-19 triage centre

Mongkutwattana Hospital to open a field hospital this Wednesday