Sadly in Thailand ,it seems like the new normal...

11 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

"whatever will be will be"

Words of infamy.

6 minutes ago, gunderhill said:

Ultimately the responsibility  lies with each and every  Thai  person not to have travelled  during Songkran, its  not  like they didnt  know.

Correct, but Thais do what Thais want to do in the name of visiting family, eating together and having Sanuk.  You can tak to them until you are blue in the face, but in the end they do what they want.  They live for the moment and the day, never truly thinking about the future until it smacks them in the face.

Cumulative COVID cases and totals for Thailand since the start of the pandemic...

 

 

And the cases reported since the beginning of April, the current so-called "third wave" of Thailand's COVID outbreaks. 182 of the total 276 COVID deaths in the country thus far have occurred since the beginning of April:

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/photos/a.106455480972785/317929963158668/

 

 

Ministry of Public Health chart issued today showing the daily trends of Thailand's COVID case numbers since the beginning of April. The blue portion reflects cases identified on their own through doctors, hospitals, etc, while the yellow portion represents cases found via relatively limited government outreach testing.

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/photos/a.106455480972785/317929963158668/

 

12 minutes ago, Snig27 said:

 

The testing has been contact testing - as used in pretty much every country that has successfully handled this bug. It works and is far more effective than the sort of mass testing the US and Europe relied on - as numbers show. As to numbers of cases? You clearly have access to better data than the WHO and Johns Hopkins both of whom seem to think the numbers are credible. 

They do contact testing AND random sampling.

17 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

I beg to differ.

 

Random sampling of 1,000 people will produce a reasonably accurate positivity rate in the area sampled. So far, testing is seeing a positivity rate about 5%, which is consistent with actual case numbers.
 

Probably the reason they are focused on Klang Toey is that they found the cluster during random sampling.

 

 

Accuracy is everything and the positivity rate is fluctuating from 4.9% to 20% depending on where they test. Overall mean positivity rate over a week in all areas combined is well above 5%

Yet still no full hard national lock down ?
 

7 minutes ago, gunderhill said:

Ultimately the responsibility  lies with each and every  Thai  person not to have travelled  during Songkran, its  not  like they didnt  know.

And you think all Thai have perfect thinking of reasoning to know right from wrong as in do not travel or travel? More self absorbed than being non selfish for ones act.

52 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Correct, but Thais do what Thais want to do in the name of visiting family, eating together and having Sanuk.  You can tak to them until you are blue in the face, but in the end they do what they want.  They live for the moment and the day, never truly thinking about the future until it smacks them in the face.

 

Well look at the expert. You do realise that farangs have been coming out with that exact same drivel for 30 years plus.

1 hour ago, webfact said:

After managing to largely control the virus for around a year through shutdowns and strict border controls, Thailand has faced a spike in cases since early April that is proving harder to control and putting pressure on parts of the medical system.

 

Let us pray that the Indian variant doesn't get into Thailand until the population is vaccinated.

 

Prayut should think long and hard about his repatriation attempts to bring back some Thai's who have it in India.

Edited May 3, 20215 yr by 4MyEgo

6 minutes ago, Kaopad999 said:

Yet still no full hard national lock down ?
 

 The gov don't want to take income away (again) from folk already on the breadline. I actually applaud that. It's 20 deaths a day (less than there are on the roads) not 200 a day.

If Thailand is testing less then 20,000 a day and finding 2000 up, the uk testing over 500,000 a day finding same number, then it is far, far worse than it appears

53 minutes ago, gunderhill said:

Erm thats an unfortunate choice of words isnt it, dying at your own funeral.

Yes I had to smile at the wording as well

As if its bad enough dying of Corivirus but at your own funeral ????

 

https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1389079127169245185

 

Today there is a record 31 deaths from #COVID19 in #Thailand. Most of the deaths were from close family and infected patients. Factors that lead to death include high blood pressure and diabetes [cond.]

 

18 males and 13 females

Median age is 58 (31-83 years)

 

2 died before knowing they had covid

1 died on same day as diagnosis

10 died within 6 days of being diagnosed

18 died 7-14 after being diagnosed

It all seems better when Dr Bum does the daily brief.  Can't quite my finger on why.

 

Bangkok Province daily new case totals April 27 to May 3 on the second line below. The first line shows overall Thailand numbers of domestic cases (including Bangkok but excluding those from international travel quarantine). The far right column shows each's domestic case totals since the beginning of April:

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Of today's newly reported deaths, 10 were reported from Bangkok, and another 10 from Nonthaburi.

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/photos/a.106455480972785/317929963158668/

 

June feels to long to start vaccinations. Immunity takes a couple weeks even after you get the jab. Bkk is a major hub and you can't really keep this stuff out with travel controls unless you lockdown everything before it's a problem like Vietnam did. It starts circulating before you hear about cases and deaths.

 

I would get the vaccine as soon as possible and not wait until June.

1 hour ago, robblok said:

Yes they were wrong about it stabilizing downwards. Still the increase is not that bad yet. But they were wrong for sure. I wonder if it will go down anytime soon. I also wonder how long hospitals can take this. Its not as if the hospitals are flush with cash. Plus the private ones don't want to help too much as it does not make them much money.

 

I wonder how long before healthcare will be in serious problems. Then again after a few weeks of the same amount of people getting in the discharge rate will be the same. Provided we keep these numbers and don't go up too much.

Discharge rate may differ. I will be determined by the length of infection. Not every one will recover in the same time period. They are likely to be kept in until they have a negative test result. The level of current admissions is likely to increase. 

50 minutes ago, Snig27 said:

 

The testing has been contact testing - as used in pretty much every country that has successfully handled this bug. It works and is far more effective than the sort of mass testing the US and Europe relied on - as numbers show. As to numbers of cases? You clearly have access to better data than the WHO and Johns Hopkins both of whom seem to think the numbers are credible. 

Australia good at contact tracing. Australia has been very good at mass testing. Australia now has low numbers. Both mass testing and good contact tracing is needed. To say mass testing is less effective than contact tracing displays a lack of knowledge beyond belief. Mass testing reveals infections from whence contact tracing can occur. Mass testing and contact tracing are of course only a part, albeit an essential part, of any successful strategy.

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1 hour ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Vaccinations Update:

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/thaimoph/posts/300604068216170

 

Richard Barrow 

 

 

@RichardBarrow

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2m

 

Only 744 people received their second dose yesterday. There’s still another 712,013 people waiting to be fully vaccinated. So far, only 387K people are fully vaccinated. Why is the Thai government taking so long vaccinating their most vulnerable citizens? #Thailand

 

https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1389085950425190403

2 hours ago, robblok said:

Yes they were wrong about it stabilizing downwards. Still the increase is not that bad yet. But they were wrong for sure. I wonder if it will go down anytime soon. I also wonder how long hospitals can take this. Its not as if the hospitals are flush with cash. Plus the private ones don't want to help too much as it does not make them much money.

 

I wonder how long before healthcare will be in serious problems. Then again after a few weeks of the same amount of people getting in the discharge rate will be the same. Provided we keep these numbers and don't go up too much.

 

Did anybody see the number of deaths in Chiang Mai yesterday (Sunday 2 May) and the preceding week? Please share.

 

 

 

Thailand's COVID-19 death toll has doubled in the last 10 days. Deaths may be a better indication of the scale of the outbreak than infection numbers unfortunately because fatalities are more likely to have been tested.

https://twitter.com/TostevinM/status/1389053097134100480

I hope some folks start to understand this is not only flue! For example in Finland , one ice hockey coach(really good fitness) was in ICU 42 days and now move whit wheelchair! And if people know ex soccer player Jari Litmanen from Ajax,Barcelona,Liverpool. He had covid one year ago and he say not get well yet, still have breathing problem's and get tired very easy! I hope people start to get this seriously and think other people also! 

Be safe!

8 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

 

 

Thailand's COVID-19 death toll has doubled in the last 10 days. Deaths may be a better indication of the scale of the outbreak than infection numbers unfortunately because fatalities are more likely to have been tested.

https://twitter.com/TostevinM/status/1389053097134100480

 

I hate charts that don't list the actual numbers.... ????

 

Thailand COVID deaths:

April 23 -- 4

April 24 -- 8

April 25 -- 11

April 26 -- 8

April 27 -- 15

April 28 -- 15

April 29 -- 10

April 30 -- 15

May 1 -- 21

May 2 -- 21

May 3 -- 31

 

51 minutes ago, Johnny Mac said:

 

Well look at the expert. You do realise that farangs have been coming out with that exact same drivel for 30 years plus.

 

Having folks listen and doing what they need to do to help themselves in a pandemic sometimes falls on deaf ears just like the Government failed to head the warnings of the doctors prior to Songkran.

 

  Here is where I go OT, Sorry if this is my experience having been married to a Thai for 10 years, and then having a Thai girlfriend who I lived with for 2 years.  Nothing different, maybe you have had a different experience. 

 

 

Edited May 3, 20215 yr by onthedarkside
off topic comments removed

27 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Australia good at contact tracing. Australia has been very good at mass testing. Australia now has low numbers. Both mass testing and good contact tracing is needed. To say mass testing is less effective than contact tracing displays a lack of knowledge beyond belief. Mass testing reveals infections from whence contact tracing can occur. Mass testing and contact tracing are of course only a part, albeit an essential part, of any successful strategy.

 

UAE (essentially 7 cities) very good at mass testing, doing around 200,000 per day in a country of approx 10 million people. Daily new cases have been around 2,000 per day for over 2 months even with 50% of the resident population vaccinated (Pfizer / Sinopharm). Many links on Google. So yes, testing is important but as you say, only as part of a bigger strategy. FYI, Dubai has been open to tourists since late last year.

Today's new COVID cases report by province. If a province is not listed, that means it did not have any cases officially reported for the day:

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10157990916762050

 

Edited May 3, 20215 yr by TallGuyJohninBKK

1 hour ago, ThailandRyan said:

Correct, but Thais do what Thais want to do in the name of visiting family, eating together and having Sanuk.  You can tak to them until you are blue in the face, but in the end they do what they want.  They live for the moment and the day, never truly thinking about the future until it smacks them in the face.

So explain Songkran 2020. It makes nonsense of what you just stated.

1 hour ago, Kaopad999 said:

Yet still no full hard national lock down ?
 

Thankfully no.  Why cause more damage?  It's sad to see rates increasing but not surprising.  It's a global pandemic so what do people expect.  What is reassuring is that the death rate from Covid is still relatively low.  Things could be a lot worse!