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Thai government urged to buy more vaccine doses at any cost as the only way out of a growing crisis


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12 hours ago, Blumpie said:

You're not going to have any tourism that will have any meaning if the population doesn't have vaccine.

I don't care what lame excuse everyone has, this is the way that it is, pure and simple, end of discussion.  I don't care what the death rate is in Bolivia.  

 

       Thailand , does not deserve tourists anymore .

          The party is over ...

       Now we have,   Noodle stalls , everywhere in Essan .

 

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47 minutes ago, Isaan sailor said:

Not many expats want SinoVac.  And as for AstraZeneca with a 76% efficacy, and 18 countries who haven’t recommended it (including the USA), it seems they need to open up the vaccine marketplace.  Several vaccines have a much better efficacy.  
Why don’t they spend down some of their huge USD reserves for this purpose?

 

A little incorrect with the wording which is misleading, the USA have not recommended or not ‘not recommenced’ the Oxford AstraZenica vaccine, rather the F.D.A approval has been awaiting completion of phase III pharmaceutical trials in the USA which include >30,000 participants - it is reported that initial results prove a 79% efficacy at preventing symptomatic Covid-19.

 

FDA approval is a matter of time. the ‘other’ 18 countries will likely piggy-back on the F.D.A’s approval once that occurs. 

 

The vaccines compare out as follows (table below). 

The issue with the more effective mRNA vaccines is the difficult of transport and storage. 

 

Sputnik and AZ seem to be the best options for global distribution. 

 

 

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(some data missing / unavailable pending reliable information / results of testing)

 

 

 

 

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6 hours ago, zhounan said:

The biggest mistake is to consider vaccination as the only way to end this pandemic.

 

Well, let's see whether vaccines worked in the UK ...

 

In January 2021, when few people had been vaccinated, there was an average of over 1000 covid deaths per day in the UK Fast forward to May 2021, and the UK has an average of 15 covid deaths a day.

 

Not convinced?

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6 hours ago, Brunolem said:

Then, there are multiple countries in Africa, such as Sénégal for example, which are doing quite well without vaccination, just by following protocols recommended by eminent specialists, such as French professor Raoult.

 

If you believe the covid stats coming out of any African nation (with the possible exception of South Africa), you're insane.

 

Most African nations have barely done any testing, and can only estimate how many of their population have been killed by covid.

 

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/hidden-toll-of-covid-in-africa-threatens-global-pandemic-progress/

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8 hours ago, zhounan said:

The biggest mistake is to consider vaccination as the only way to end this pandemic.

My Dad would have said "Dunk your head in a bucket of water twice and pull it out once."  That was his cure-all.

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10 minutes ago, Elkski said:

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Another key difference between Thailand and western countries, which are now slowly emerging from the Covid-19 crisis, is that personal savings rates in western countries have gone up even for the less well off.

This has prompted some anticipation of a ‘pent up demand’ economic rebound in those countries as the crisis begins to recede.

However, for Thailand, the crisis has seen household debt, driven by the less well off and the vulnerable, skyrocket to levels not seen before or since records began.".   

And why is the baht still below 36?   Pulling back from a bump 31.4 to 31.1????   It will tank soon IMHO  

I agree with your comments about personal savings, that's a big factor in the consumer led recovery.

 

But I disagree regarding the Baht, the fact that Western economies are recovering will drive the demand for Thai exports which in turn will keep the Baht strong. I don't read that any economic commentators anywhere are predicting a substantial or sustained Baht weakness. 

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It begs the question:  if things are so dire in Thailand—then why does the Baht remain high?  Do international investors really see Thailand as the go to emerging market?  Don’t they read the news?

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1 hour ago, Isaan sailor said:

It begs the question:  if things are so dire in Thailand—then why does the Baht remain high?  Do international investors really see Thailand as the go to emerging market?  Don’t they read the news?

Why "so dire"?

Thailand's Covid numbers are still far below those of Western countries, and the factories and farms are still producing goods for exports.

 

On top of that, interest rates are very low, but still positive, not at zero like in the US, or below zero like in the EU.

This matters for investors.

 

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