5 minutes ago, nightfox said:

It does when your strategy is to fire thousands of missiles from civilian areas full knowing the response will end up with civilian casualties which is what they want, to show the whole world what Israel is doing, its called (propaganda).

 

let us know what your government should do in response of missiles that are aimed to kill you full knowing they are being fired from your enemy in residential areas. If Israel was the United States Gaza would have been nothing but a pile of ruble by now.

 

Maybe Israel should politely ask Hamas to fire rockets their from open fields where there is no civilian population instead of being rats hiding in tunnels and residential buildings.

Yes. Hamas is very big on exploiting the tragic deaths of civilians particularly children to increase hatred towards Israel internationally. But the people that fall for that should consider that Hamas basically plans the situations for that to happen. It's totally intentional. Nobody is saying the Israeli government is saintly but to blame them for attacking military targets is a standard other states are not held to.

10 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Yes. Hamas is very big on exploiting the tragic deaths of civilians particularly children to increase hatred towards Israel internationally. But the people that fall for that should consider that Hamas basically plans the situations for that to happen. It's totally intentional. Nobody is saying the Israeli government is saintly but to blame them for attacking military targets is a standard other states are not held to.

Spot on, it looks like there's a few on this forum that are falling for the old Hamas PR stunt as well.

27 minutes ago, nightfox said:

It does when your strategy is to fire thousands of missiles from civilian areas full knowing the response will end up with civilian casualties which is what they want, to show the whole world what Israel is doing, its called (propaganda).

 

let us know what your government should do in response of missiles that are aimed to kill you full knowing they are being fired from your enemy in residential areas. If Israel was the United States Gaza would have been nothing but a pile of ruble by now.

 

Maybe Israel should politely ask Hamas to fire rockets their from open fields where there is no civilian population instead of being rats hiding in tunnels and residential buildings.

 

My point is that neither side is any better than the other.

 

Nothing justifies bombing civilians and neither side is right to do so.

 

To defend one side bombing civilians and condemn the other is nonsense.

21 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

 

My point is that neither side is any better than the other.

 

Nothing justifies bombing civilians and neither side is right to do so.

 

To defend one side bombing civilians and condemn the other is nonsense.

One side isn't even targeting. But since not aimed at military targets the intention is obviously to terrorize civilians.

The other side is aiming for military targets and warning people to evaluate in advance.

Not really the same.

Edited May 20, 20215 yr by Jingthing

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

One side isn't even targeting. Basically missile bukkake. But since not aimed at military targets the intention is obviously to terrorize civilians.

The other side is aiming for military targets and warning people to evaluate in advance.

Not really the same.

And yet it is those being bombed by Israel who are bearing the brunt of casualties and deaths.

 

As for terrorizing civilians, do you honestly expect me to believe that those civilians in Gaza are singing and dancing along the sidewalks as they are being bombed.

 

Nothing justifies bombing civilians.

2 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

And yet it is those being bombed by Israel who are bearing the brunt of casualties and deaths.

 

As for terrorizing civilians, do you honestly expect me to believe that those civilians in Gaza are singing and dancing along the sidewalks as they are being bombed.

 

Nothing justifies bombing civilians.

Obviously true that the Israeli military is vastly more powerful than Hamas. But any country would take very aggressive action to react to being blanketed with missiles.

2 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

Yet it is Israeli attacks in civilian areas that has led to the most deaths. 
 

Nothing justifies bombing civilian areas. 

so what is your answer, let Hamas hide in civilian areas and continue to shoot hundreds of rockets into Israel civilian areas?

2 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

And yet is those who live in Gaza who are bearing the majority of deaths. 
 

You only know what Hamas tells you, there is no freedom of speech or press. 

2 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

That still does not justify bombing civilians. 

Israel does no target civilians , repeating same nonsense over and over will not make a fact.

Again, Hamas command centers , Hamas rocket stock piles are hidden in civilian areas like schools, hospitals and public places, as well as just housing estates.

 

When its a civilian target, Israel notified by leaflets and phone calls for civilians to vacate. It has been proven in the past with evidence, Hamas does not allow civilians to escape or flee because they need civilian deaths for publicity.

7 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Obviously true that the Israeli military is vastly more powerful than Hamas. But any country would take very aggressive action to react to being blanketed with missiles.

And my point is that if the result is civilian deaths then that action is wrong.

4 minutes ago, BestB said:

Israel does no target civilians , repeating same nonsense over and over will not make a fact.

Again, Hamas command centers , Hamas rocket stock piles are hidden in civilian areas like schools, hospitals and public places, as well as just housing estates.

 

When its a civilian target, Israel notified by leaflets and phone calls for civilians to vacate. It has been proven in the past with evidence, Hamas does not allow civilians to escape or flee because they need civilian deaths for publicity.

Where did I say Israel was targeting civilians?

 

Be precise.

7 minutes ago, BestB said:

You only know what Hamas tells you, there is no freedom of speech or press. 

Oh dear, you are denying the widely reported facts now...

1 minute ago, Bluespunk said:

Where did I say Israel was targeting civilians?

 

Be precise.

when you keep saying Israel bombing civilians? 

9 minutes ago, BestB said:

so what is your answer, let Hamas hide in civilian areas and continue to shoot hundreds of rockets into Israel civilian areas?

I've already said that hamas is no better and both sides should call a ceasefire and accept mediation.

 

Neither side is in the right here and I have expressed no support for either...

1 minute ago, Bluespunk said:

Oh dear, you are denying the widely reported facts now...

such as?

Just now, BestB said:

when you keep saying Israel bombing civilians? 

That is not the question I asked you...Where did I say or imply Israel is targeting civilians?

Just now, Bluespunk said:

I've already said that hamas is no better and both sides should call a ceasefire and accept mediation.

 

Neither side is in the right here and I have expressed no support for either...

so remind me again who started firing hundreds of rockets and continuing to do so?

Just now, BestB said:

such as?

Read or watch the news reports[and not fox news]

Just now, Bluespunk said:

That is not the question I asked you...Where did I say or imply Israel is targeting civilians?

i suppose by saying Israel is bombing civilians you meant Homer Simpson went to get a beer, 

Just now, BestB said:

so remind me again who started firing hundreds of rockets and continuing to do so?

Doesn't matter.

 

Nothing justifies bombing civilians.

Just now, BestB said:

i suppose by saying Israel is bombing civilians you meant Homer Simpson went to get a beer, 

Nope

Just now, Bluespunk said:

Read or watch the news reports[and not fox news]

do tell, i hear AlJazeera is very reliable, can you confirm?

Just now, BestB said:

do tell, i hear AlJazeera is very reliable, can you confirm?

Already told you I don't watch it...do try to keep up.

Just now, Bluespunk said:

Doesn't matter.

 

Nothing justifies bombing civilians.

I see, you you do no have much problem with Hamas firing rockets targeting civilians only, but do have  problem with response they are getting, Its a good thing you totally impartial 

1 minute ago, Bluespunk said:

Already told you I don't watch it...do try to keep up.

so do share your source of "facts"

Just now, Bluespunk said:

Doesn't matter.

 

Nothing justifies bombing civilians.

As I once heard an Israeli say, 'to turn the other cheek is a Christian doctrine'. 

The reaction/ retaliation is far far disproportionate and the Palestinian suffering is a horror story.

Both need to stop, Hamas too.....

Just now, jacko45k said:

As I once heard an Israeli say, 'to turn the other cheek is a Christian doctrine'. 

The reaction/ retaliation is far far disproportionate and the Palestinian suffering is a horror story.

Both need to stop, Hamas too.....

That's what I've being saying.

1 minute ago, BestB said:

so do share your source of "facts"

Google is your friend...

3 minutes ago, BestB said:

I see, you you do no have much problem with Hamas firing rockets targeting civilians only, but do have  problem with response they are getting, Its a good thing you totally impartial 

Nonsense. I have neither said nor implied such a thing.

 

Still waiting for the you quoting the post I made saying Israel is targeting civilians.

Edited May 20, 20215 yr by Bluespunk

1 minute ago, jacko45k said:

As I once heard an Israeli say, 'to turn the other cheek is a Christian doctrine'. 

The reaction/ retaliation is far far disproportionate and the Palestinian suffering is a horror story.

Both need to stop, Hamas too.....

What is proportional? rocket for a rocket?