Thailand reports 2,636 COVID-19 cases, 25 new deaths

[anchadian]

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1395258601044791297

 

Vaccinations in #Thailand since 28th February 2021:

 

First dose - Sinovac 1,530,473 & AstraZeneca 117,398

Second dose - Sinovac 881,264 & AstraZeneca 10,981

 

Yesterday, 62,098 people received their first dose and 32,373 received their second dose

 

 

Edited May 20, 2021 by anchadian

[robblok]

1 minute ago, anchadian said:

Vaccinations in #Thailand since 28th February 2021:

 

First dose - Sinovac 1,530,473 & AstraZeneca 117,398

Second dose - Sinovac 881,264 & AstraZeneca 10,981

 

Yesterday, 62,098 people received their first dose and 32,373 received their second dose

 

 

So they vaccinated 100.000 at that rate they will never get to their goals. Yet they keep setting goals that are unrealistic. They want to do 500.000 per day every day they don't will mean that other days they will have to vaccinate more people. Does that sound realistic ? Another pie in the sky from the Thai goverment with their 70% in September. 

[anchadian]

https://twitter.com/KhaosodEnglish/status/1395259844500680711

 

There are now 23 highly active clusters around Bangkok, most of them worker camps and slum communities, but also markets such as Huai Kwang Market, Pratunam Market, Bobae Market, Klong Thom Center, Klong Toey Market, Silom, Ying Charoen Market, and Bang Kapi Market.

 

[ThailandRyan]

56 minutes ago, anchadian said:

 

Prize and discount incentives for registrants of COVID Vaccines

 

KHON KAEN, May 20 (TNA) – The Muang Phon municipal office in Khon Kaen’s Phon district will organize lucky draws of gold ornament prizes and offer discounts at local restaurants and shops to those who registered for COVID-19 vaccinations.

 

Muang Phon mayor Kittichote Triamwetwuthikrai presided over a signing ceremony of the vaccination promotion agreement by about 30 local restaurateurs, vendors and suppliers who are offering discounts on their products and services.

 

The mayor also received three gold necklaces worth about 21,000 baht from donors. The necklaces are prizes for lucky vaccine recipients in Muang Phon municipality. The discounts and the gold necklaces are incentives to encourage as many local people to receive COVID-19 vaccines as possible.

 

https://tna.mcot.net/english-news-700289

 

Really trying hard to sell the Sinovac vaccine it appears.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

During the English language COVID news briefing today, no substantive news regarding future plans for government COVID vaccinations of foreign nationals in Thailand.... except that a "high-level" meeting will be held this afternoon to discuss vaccination priorities for various different groups, and an update will follow that meeting.

 

[ThailandRyan]

42 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Of the 2,636 new cases that were found in the past 24 hours:

 

- 1,385 were found via tests at medical facilities

- 522 via proactive tests at known clusters

- 671 via proactive tests at prisons

- 58 in quarantine facilities

- 25 fatalities

#WhatsHappeningInThailand #โควิด19

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1395253686104776709

 

So no random outreach testing in areas not yet affected to try and get ahead of the problem before it pops into view.

[anchadian]

Thai Public Health Minister provides Covid-19 vaccine updates today, AstraZeneca remains main vaccine for Thailand

 

Public Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul today, May 20th, reported the progress of Covid-19 vaccine imports in Thailand, stressing that AstraZeneca will be the main vaccine to be given out for people across the country while Sinovac is for emergency distribution only.

 

The Minister further stated that a vaccination trading agreement is officially made when both manufacturers and the Thai government mutually agree on the risks and conditions before negotiating the pricing and distribution of vaccines in Thailand.

 

Recently, the Johnson & Johnson vaccine has been already registered with the FDA and agreed to sell to the government only. The Department of Disease Control is currently negotiating the procurement process with the manufacturer. If the discussion went well and both parties agreed to each other’s conditions, the Johnson & Johnson vaccination could presumably be delivered in the fourth quarter of this year.

 

https://thepattayanews.com/2021/05/20/thai-public-health-minister-provides-covid-19-vaccine-updates-today-astrazeneca-remains-main-vaccine-for-thailand/

 

 

 

[ThailandRyan]

26 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Regardless of sample size, if the positivity ratio remains the same, then it means that the epidemic isn’t spiking.

 

no it just continues to spread.........instead of getting ahead of the problem and seeing where the cases may be, they wait for them to pop up, sort of like whack a mole.

[FarFlungFalang]

1 hour ago, anchadian said:

https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1395251266620592131

 

Official #COVID19 update in #Thailand on Thursday: Since 1 April 2021

90,722 people infected (+58 imported cases & +2,578 local cases)

609 dead +25

42,246 in care

1,213 in serious condition

2,268 discharged from care

 

The number of people under care seems to have snuck up to 42,246 from the flat line of about 30,000 just days ago.If it's getting better why has this number increased?

Edited May 20, 2021 by FarFlungFalang

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

The Ministry of Public Health reported Thursday that the newly opened 1,200-bed Busarakham field hospital at Challenger Hall in the Impact Muang Thong Thani complex had 406 COVID patients receiving treatment as of Wednesday, and officials there are already planning to add another 1,000 beds of capacity.

 

Among the 406 patients being treated at the field hospital in Nonthaburi province, MoPH officials said 323 had mild COVID symptoms, while 83 had moderate symptoms. The field hospital had received 91 new patients just in the past day.  Officials did not give a timeframe for when the added 1,000 beds would be made available.

 

 

EN language translation via Google Translate

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Chiang Rai to impose strict travel restrictions from Dark Red zone from Friday

 

The northern province of Chiang Rai’s communicable disease committee is imposing travel restrictions on all arrivals from the country’s four Dark Red zone provinces – Bangkok, Nonthaburi, Pathum Thani and Samut Prakan, effective on Friday.

 

Under the order, issued by Chiang Rai Governor Prajon Pratsakul, all arrivals from these four provinces will have to show their COVID-free certificate, to prove that they have been cleared of the disease with a RT PCR or Antigen Rapid Test not more than 72 hours before their arrival in Chiang Rai province, and to show the proof that they have received two doses of COVID-19 vaccine.

 

Travellers who do not have either of the two certificates will be subjected to 14 days in local quarantine, or less if they stay in the province for less than the mandatory isolation period.

 

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/chiang-rai-to-impose-strict-travel-restrictions-from-dark-red-zone-from-friday/

 

[RichardColeman]

42 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Regardless of sample size, if the positivity ratio remains the same, then it means that the epidemic isn’t spiking.

 

You're joking right ? Surely if they did say 1 day of 500,000 tests instead of 20,000 , there would be a huge spike in cases. Ratio does not matter, the spike would be enormous.

 

You are in effect saying if we used ratio, thailand would be on track for millions of infections

 

[Danderman123]

23 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

So no random outreach testing in areas not yet affected to try and get ahead of the problem before it pops into view.

It's called "Whack a Mole". 

[jacko45k]

10 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:

The number of people under care seems to have snuck up to 42,246 from the flat line of about 30,000 just days ago.If it's getting better why has this number increased?

From the prisons maybe.

[Danderman123]

4 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

You're joking right ? Surely if they did say 1 day of 500,000 tests instead of 20,000 , there would be a huge spike in cases. Ratio does not matter, the spike would be enormous.

 

You are in effect saying if we used ratio, thailand would be on track for millions of infections

 

You don't seem very clear on the purpose of determining positivity ratio. 

 

What the Powers That Be want to know is whether infections are spreading. As long as the positivity ratio remains at X% (I can't write the actual number, or someone will get upset), then they know they can contain the virus by a Whack a Mole strategy. 

 

If the positivity ratio increases, then they will tighten the screws on restrictions, like making everyone on this forum type using gloves. 

[meltonpie]

4 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Yep, as long as the people who go to the hospital with symptoms continues at this pace, we are going to see 2000 new cases a, day. 

And people who have it but don't go to hospital?......

[robblok]

6 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

You're joking right ? Surely if they did say 1 day of 500,000 tests instead of 20,000 , there would be a huge spike in cases. Ratio does not matter, the spike would be enormous.

 

You are in effect saying if we used ratio, thailand would be on track for millions of infections

 

You obviously don't understand much of math and stuff like that. The spike does not matter one bit its the ratio that counts.

 

Of course there are far more infections then what we have now they say that in some places in BKK the ratio is 5% so just imagine how much there are. But the absolute number does not matter the ratio does. 

 

What is worse 5% of your population having it or 6% that is the ratio. You don't need to do more test to know that there are far more infected then there are reported. Its the same in every country. 

 

Absolute numbers would only be useful if you test everyone. Though the more you test the more accurate the ratio is. Its not about real numbers at all. 

 

Maybe you just want to see high numbers for the numbers sake. Not sure why you think its important. Unless you think that the number represents the real number of infected. I doubt that anyone is dumb enough to think that.

Even in the UK the numbers never represented the real numbers. That only happens if you test everyone and nobody does that. The only important number is the percentage of infected (if your tests are spread out well and stuff like that).

 

If one week you do 500.000 tests and the number of infected is 20.000 and an other week you do 1.000.000 tests and the number is 30.000. In your opinion is week 1 with 20.000 infected worse then week 2 with 30.000 infected but doube its tests ?

 

Just think about that question and anwser it and you know. 

[meltonpie]

1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:

Regardless of sample size, if the positivity ratio remains the same, then it means that the epidemic isn’t spiking.

 

Either there is someone else on here posting in your name or your tune keeps changing. Two days ago you said more testing was required.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Complete province by province list of new domestic COVID cases reported on Thursday. Once again, NBT is reporting all prison cases in the Central region, even though they're not all occurring there.

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10158028149857050

 

Edited May 20, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[anchadian]

GSB suspends relief-loan applications after huge demand crashes system

 

The state-owned lender Government Savings Bank (GSB) temporarily stopped accepting applications for its Covid-19-relief loans on Thursday as more than 100,000 requests are pending in the system, amid online backlash.

 

“We expect to resume taking loan applications again early next week,” said GSB director Withai Rattanakorn in the statement.

 

The bank opened last week for the affected groups to sign up for loans, which are free of all repayments for the first six months, via its online-banking application MyMo, starting with the deep red-zoned areas.

 

https://www.thaienquirer.com/27741/gsb-suspends-relief-loan-applications-after-huge-demand-crashes-system/

 

[anchadian]

Bangkok's Yingcharoen market found additional 47 Covid-19 cases, including 20 Thais and 27 migrant workers. The total cases, detected from May 8-18 rose 100.

@TNAMCOT

 

https://twitter.com/TNAMCOTEnglish/status/1395275725071032325

 

[anchadian]

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40001096

 

Cars, scooters and Segways have been made available for medics working in Thailand’s largest field hospital, “Bussarakham”, set up in Nonthaburi’s IMPACT Muang Thong Thani

 

Nurse Saowapa Chaiwicha shared images on Facebook of the vehicles made available by the Public Health Ministry and said she hoped to try out a Segway before she goes home.

 

[meltonpie]

22 minutes ago, robblok said:

You obviously don't understand much of math and stuff like that. The spike does not matter one bit its the ratio that counts.

 

Of course there are far more infections then what we have now they say that in some places in BKK the ratio is 5% so just imagine how much there are. But the absolute number does not matter the ratio does. 

 

What is worse 5% of your population having it or 6% that is the ratio. You don't need to do more test to know that there are far more infected then there are reported. Its the same in every country. 

 

Absolute numbers would only be useful if you test everyone. Though the more you test the more accurate the ratio is. Its not about real numbers at all. 

 

Maybe you just want to see high numbers for the numbers sake. Not sure why you think its important. Unless you think that the number represents the real number of infected. I doubt that anyone is dumb enough to think that.

Even in the UK the numbers never represented the real numbers. That only happens if you test everyone and nobody does that. The only important number is the percentage of infected (if your tests are spread out well and stuff like that).

 

If one week you do 500.000 tests and the number of infected is 20.000 and an other week you do 1.000.000 tests and the number is 30.000. In your opinion is week 1 with 20.000 infected worse then week 2 with 30.000 infected but doube its tests ?

 

Just think about that question and anwser it and you know. 

You might be interested to take a look at this:

https://gabgoh.github.io/COVID/index.html

 

Its an interesting calculator/chart which can be used to give an idea of what might happen with different scenarios.  You can play around with all the blue bars to try to align it with the position in Thailand now and then by shifting the blue bars you can get an idea of possible outcomes.  You can move the vertical line to alter the day of intervention

Have fun

 

[Danderman123]

26 minutes ago, meltonpie said:

Either there is someone else on here posting in your name or your tune keeps changing. Two days ago you said more testing was required.

More testing is needed.

 

I just post that when I think of it, so we don’t get 100 such posts here every day.

[2 is 1]

LOL this "conversation" goes every day same way!  Some loony's say all almost great and others try  chance they mind. 

[ThailandRyan]

35 minutes ago, meltonpie said:

And people who have it but don't go to hospital?......

Like my GF's ex, they will continue to spread the virus.  Some people are afraid of loosing their homes, cars and not being able to take care of their families.  His wife just was released and arrived home to find he has a fever as well as his mother and father.  They were told to self isolate at their house until symptoms appeared then were supposed to call the hospital to arrange for transport. However, he is still out making food deliveries, he is a prime example of why they will never get a handle on this because there is no safety net for folks like him.  His wife works for a bank, they covered her salary while she was in the hospital for the past 3 weeks, and she was told to stay isolated from the other family members.  Kind of hard to do in a 2 bedroom house where 6 people live.  Thankfully we have the daughter here with us.

[Bkk Brian]

37 minutes ago, robblok said:

You obviously don't understand much of math and stuff like that. The spike does not matter one bit its the ratio that counts.

 

Of course there are far more infections then what we have now they say that in some places in BKK the ratio is 5% so just imagine how much there are. But the absolute number does not matter the ratio does. 

 

What is worse 5% of your population having it or 6% that is the ratio. You don't need to do more test to know that there are far more infected then there are reported. Its the same in every country. 

 

Absolute numbers would only be useful if you test everyone. Though the more you test the more accurate the ratio is. Its not about real numbers at all. 

 

Maybe you just want to see high numbers for the numbers sake. Not sure why you think its important. Unless you think that the number represents the real number of infected. I doubt that anyone is dumb enough to think that.

Even in the UK the numbers never represented the real numbers. That only happens if you test everyone and nobody does that. The only important number is the percentage of infected (if your tests are spread out well and stuff like that).

 

If one week you do 500.000 tests and the number of infected is 20.000 and an other week you do 1.000.000 tests and the number is 30.000. In your opinion is week 1 with 20.000 infected worse then week 2 with 30.000 infected but doube its tests ?

 

Just think about that question and anwser it and you know. 

Fully understand what you're saying, however that only comes into play when you test enough areas, if there is inadequate testing then you will not find the true rate.

 

Currently the rate in Bangkok for pro active testing is 7% however that is pro active testing only. This figure is far to high and indicates widespread spread. It also only indicates the areas they've tested. There maybe other clusters in Bangkok forming which are unknown as yet.

 

Hospital walk ins tests are already separated and the positivity rates for this are over 7%.

 

The most important thing to remember is that testing needs to increase.

 

What does a high percent positive mean?

A high percent positive means that more testing should probably be done—and it suggests that it is not a good time to relax restrictions aimed at reducing coronavirus transmission. Because a high percentage of positive tests suggests high coronavirus infection rates (due to high transmission in the community), a high percent positive can indicate it may be a good time to add restrictions to slow the spread of disease.

How high is too high?

The higher the percent positive is, the more concerning it is. As a rule of thumb, however, one threshold for the percent positive being “too high” is 5%.

 

https://www.jhsph.edu/covid-19/articles/covid-19-testing-understanding-the-percent-positive.html

Edited May 20, 2021 by Bkk Brian

[robblok]

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

Fully understand what you're saying, however that only comes into play when you test enough areas, if there is inadequate testing then you will not find the true rate.

 

Currently the rate in Bangkok for pro active testing is 7% however that is pro active testing only. This figure is far to high and indicates widespread spread. It also only indicates the areas they've tested. There maybe other clusters in Bangkok forming which are unknown as yet.

 

Hospital walk ins tests are already separated and the positivity rates for this are over 7%.

 

The most important thing to remember is that testing needs to increase.

 

What does a high percent positive mean?

A high percent positive means that more testing should probably be done—and it suggests that it is not a good time to relax restrictions aimed at reducing coronavirus transmission. Because a high percentage of positive tests suggests high coronavirus infection rates (due to high transmission in the community), a high percent positive can indicate it may be a good time to add restrictions to slow the spread of disease.

How high is too high?

The higher the percent positive is, the more concerning it is. As a rule of thumb, however, one threshold for the percent positive being “too high” is 5%.

 

https://www.jhsph.edu/covid-19/articles/covid-19-testing-understanding-the-percent-positive.html

Your right the more tests you do the better the indication of the rate is. But again its about the rate not absolute numbers. Because those will never tell the true story. 

 

I agree with more testing, not because i want to see higher numbers but a more accurate rate. But the fact that there are rates like 7% shows that the real numbers are much higher. But do we care about those numbers or do we care about the rate ?

 

The rate if accurate (more testing) is more important then the numbers that pop up. 

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, robblok said:

Your right the more tests you do the better the indication of the rate is. But again its about the rate not absolute numbers. Because those will never tell the true story. 

 

I agree with more testing, not because i want to see higher numbers but a more accurate rate. But the fact that there are rates like 7% shows that the real numbers are much higher. But do we care about those numbers or do we care about the rate ?

 

The rate if accurate (more testing) is more important then the numbers that pop up. 

Same page as me

[FarFlungFalang]

59 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

From the prisons maybe.

Maybe and maybe from all the new clusters popping up as well as from the older clusters?