Four government factions now fighting each other over best Covid-19 response

 

There are now at least four factions within the government fighting with each other over Covid-19 recovery plans, jeopardizing the country’s response and causing embarrassment for the current administration, sources told Thai Enquirer on Thursday.

 

The third wave of the pandemic continues unchecked in Thailand with the total number of people infected since April 1 approaching 100,000.

 

But despite the grave threat to the country and the economy, Thailand’s government has been unable to find a way to coordinate and cooperate jeopardizing and prolonging the country’s recovery.

 

https://www.thaienquirer.com/27724/four-government-factions-now-fighting-each-other-over-best-covid-19-response/

The Ministry of Public Health reported Thursday that it has confirmed 18 cases in Thailand of serious side effects resulting from people who had received a COVID vaccine out of 2.5 million doses given, meaning such vaccine-related side effects had occurred in about one case out of every 138,000.

 

The ministry said no deaths had occurred from the vaccine thus far and the 18 patients involved had recovered from their symptoms, including 15 with anaphylaxis (severe allergic reaction) and three with polyneuropathy, a nerve condition that can cause numbness, pain, tingling, etc.

 

The vast majority of COVID vaccines given in Thailand thus far have been the Chinese made Sinovac vaccine, and Thai social media has been abuzz with questions about the vaccine. A recent survey found the share of Thai people willing to be vaccinated for COVID had dropped from 83 percent in January to 63 percent in May.

 

The Sinovac vaccine has been approved as safe by the Thai Food and Drug Administration, but has yet to be approved by either the World Health Organization or regulators in the United States, although a WHO decision is expected later this month.

 

Public health officials, meanwhile, maintain the rare risk of vaccine side effects is far outweighed by the vaccine's protection against serious illness and death from COVID.

 

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/thaimoph/posts/312488133694430

 

Edited May 20, 20215 yr by TallGuyJohninBKK

28 minutes ago, Olmate said:

Try to stay abreast.. Prisoners are nothospitalised with general population.

The prisoners are hospitalised though are they not?Where do the serious patients from prisons go?

Edited May 20, 20215 yr by FarFlungFalang

33 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Because the 600 infected prisoners do not go into the general population hospitals. 

 

From what the government has said, they will if their condition requires beyond what is required or available within the field hospital and/or prison hospital settings.

 

12 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Yes, this helps them to wrap it all up, they can just infect themselves, no need to test. Just remove those who get too sick. Job done. No thought for the care and attention of those locked inside

Failry sure someone will jump in and talk about vaccines. Fair enough. Sinovac them all. That should do it. Thought I would share this though. Interesting.

https://www.krtv.com/news/national/fully-vaccinated-man-in-ohio-hospitalized-with-covid-19

Note this is Pfizer. Sinovac is less effective.

Edited May 20, 20215 yr by dinsdale

The National Economic and Social Development Council (NESDC) has insisted that the government has enough funding to rehabilitate the economy and help people affected by the COVID-19 pandemic.

 

NESDC deputy secretary-general Wanchat Suwankitti said the public should not worry about the adequacy of the state’s finances to handle the pandemic and rehabilitate the economy in 2021 and 2022.

 

He said the government has as much as 391 billion baht available to assist people affected by the pandemic. This includes a 167 billion baht balance from the 1-trillion-baht emergency loan decree and 98 billion from the central budget year 2022. Moreover, 37.1 billion baht is left over from the 40.3 billion earmarked in the central budget for fiscal year 2019 to assist people affected by the pandemic.

 

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10158025873782050

A field hospital was set up in the factory where a Covid-19 cluster occurred in Phetchaburi province. High-risk people have been quarantined and all workers will be paid compensation for lost wage.

@TNAMCOT

 

https://twitter.com/TNAMCOTEnglish/status/1395218308341714946

 

5 minutes ago, anchadian said:

The National Economic and Social Development Council (NESDC) has insisted that the government has enough funding to rehabilitate the economy and help people affected by the COVID-19 pandemic.

 

NESDC deputy secretary-general Wanchat Suwankitti said the public should not worry about the adequacy of the state’s finances to handle the pandemic and rehabilitate the economy in 2021 and 2022.

 

He said the government has as much as 391 billion baht available to assist people affected by the pandemic. This includes a 167 billion baht balance from the 1-trillion-baht emergency loan decree and 98 billion from the central budget year 2022. Moreover, 37.1 billion baht is left over from the 40.3 billion earmarked in the central budget for fiscal year 2019 to assist people affected by the pandemic.

 

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10158025873782050

If this is true why take another 700 billion loan?

4 minutes ago, anchadian said:

A field hospital was set up in the factory where a Covid-19 cluster occurred in Phetchaburi province. High-risk people have been quarantined and all workers will be paid compensation for lost wage.

@TNAMCOT

 

https://twitter.com/TNAMCOTEnglish/status/1395218308341714946

 

With all these impromptu field hospitals being set up, I wonder who takes the official count of new admissions and releases to the CCSA for the totals.

Edited May 20, 20215 yr by Bkk Brian

25 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Failry sure someone will jump in and talk about vaccines. Fair enough. Sinovac them all. That should do it. Thought I would share this though. Interesting.

https://www.krtv.com/news/national/fully-vaccinated-man-in-ohio-hospitalized-with-covid-19

Note this is Pfizer. Sinovac is less effective.

 

Interesting yes, sad yes, but not totally unexpected with the US having vaccinated around 125 million people

The Chinese Embassy in Bangkok posted on its Facebook page that 1.5 million more doses of the Sinovac COVID-19 vaccine, procured by the Thai government had arrived in Bangkok.

@TNAMCOT

 

https://twitter.com/TNAMCOTEnglish/status/1395223168915181570

 

A series of off-topic posts on currency rates has been removed.

 

1 hour ago, robblok said:

Just curious what your point is. I mean this just proves that the virus ratio stays the same its not getting worse its not getting any better either. So yea these numbers will probably stay unless people are vaccinated. I wonder if the hospitals can keep going. 

 

Government has to loan extra money for the economy (was in the news a few days back) seems there is a big shortage of money.

I have spent 3 weeks posting here that the data indicates that the wave has crested, and cases are flatlining, and I got 100 derisive emails telling me that I was wrong and that catastrophe is coming Real Soon Now (although nobody ever defined catastrophe, except for BKKBrian, who sort of admitted that the flat number of new infections would result in fatalities down the road, and that was his version of catastrophe).

 

So, please forgive me from repeating what should be obvious to everyone.

44 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

From what the government has said, they will if their condition requires beyond what is required or available within the field hospital and/or prison hospital settings.

 

But that number is in the single digits.

1 hour ago, robblok said:

Yes cases outside prisons seem to be around 2000 all the time.

Doing a reasonably good controlling this B117 Kent strain. Certainly a much better job than in the UK where it really got out of control quickly and killed many thousands.

 

We are not out of the woods yet but it could have been a lot worse.

 

The Brits single worst day with the B117 strain was ,1,823 dead.

The Thai total dead so far is 678 over a year and a half.

3 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

But that number is in the single digits.

 

I haven't seen any reporting on the number of serious/critical COVID cases among the now more than 13,000 prison cases that have been reported in the past week.

 

38 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

If this is true why take another 700 billion loan?

Trough refurbishment?

Third wave of pandemic could be death sentence for Thai hotels

 

Two years ago, the seaside in front of Seksith Pimolnat guesthouse on Phuket’s Patong Beach was packed. Holiday makers from Siberia, China, and the various corners of the European Union crowded together in a cacophonous revelry.

 

Today, Patong is deserted. Another casualty of the coronavirus pandemic.

 

“Many of my friends have had to close their hotels and move back home or find a different job,” Seksith told Thai Enquirer. “For them, whatever plans there are to reopen is too late. They are finished.

 

https://www.thaienquirer.com/27726/third-wave-of-pandemic-could-be-death-sentence-for-thai-hotels/

 

 

1 hour ago, robblok said:

Just curious what your point is. I mean this just proves that the virus ratio stays the same its not getting worse its not getting any better either. So yea these numbers will probably stay unless people are vaccinated. I wonder if the hospitals can keep going. 

 

Government has to loan extra money for the economy (was in the news a few days back) seems there is a big shortage of money.

Indeed, the Gov,t have agreed to borrow another 700 Billion Baht to fight Covid.

Interesting to see that only 30 Billion Baht  was directly aimed at fighting Covid in the way of Vaccine purchases, PPE , laboratories,  Hospitals Etc.

I guess the other 630 Billion will be used for propping up Business's, SME,S, Gov,t handouts, and bad debt Etc.

 

23 minutes ago, Olmate said:

 Your saying.they can save your life but cant count? 

No, you're asking that I said no such thing

Very stubbornly not going down. 

 

At this moment in time the only defence Thailand has are it's mask, and the unbelievable adherence the vast majority of the population have to masking. 

20 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

I have spent 3 weeks posting here that the data indicates that the wave has crested, and cases are flatlining, and I got 100 derisive emails telling me that I was wrong and that catastrophe is coming Real Soon Now (although nobody ever defined catastrophe, except for BKKBrian, who sort of admitted that the flat number of new infections would result in fatalities down the road, and that was his version of catastrophe).

 

So, please forgive me from repeating what should be obvious to everyone.

Yes but there was another crest after the one 3 weeks ago, this time only 3 days ago, on the 17th May, 2,773 community spread. They seem unable to stop.

 

I also never actually said "catastrophe", you should check and put what I said in context before quoting me.

Edited May 20, 20215 yr by Bkk Brian

Just now, Bkk Brian said:

Yes but there was another crest after the one 3 weeks ago, this time only 3 days ago, on the 17th May, 2,773 community spread. They seem unable to stop.

The numbers for the general population crested 3 weeks ago.

 

you love to add in or subtract the prison numbers depending on what nit you want to pick.

1 hour ago, Pravda said:

Another day, another BS.

 

It is just incredibly incredible that daily cases outside prisons are around 2000.... every single day.

 

The virus must be doing a 90 day report to be controlled with such a precision.

 

 

Imagine if they tested x10 what they are doing per day at the moment. Then it would be 20,000 per day.

7 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Yes but there was another crest after the one 3 weeks ago, this time only 3 days ago, on the 17th May, 2,773 community spread. They seem unable to stop.

In many province infected numbers act like yo yo! If they only wait people to walk in hospital to get tested this will never end! There have to be thousands cases all over coundry. Most whitout symptoms and those all spred virus forward!

Edited May 20, 20215 yr by 2 is 1

My question is, how many people have died in prison ?

 

They can not self-isolate. They are all stuck together.

 

They differentiate every day between people infected with Covid in and outside prison.

Why don't they do the same with people who died?

2 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Vaccinations Update for Thursday:

 

First section is total new doses for the past day, with first and second dose subtotals. The lower section is cumulative doses thus far, with first and second shot subtotals. Thailand thus far has given first doses to more than 2 percent of its 70 million population, but only fully vaccinated more than 1 percent.

 

 

 

notice no inclusion of a separated number of prison vaccinations

19 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

The numbers for the general population crested 3 weeks ago.

 

you love to add in or subtract the prison numbers depending on what nit you want to pick.

Nothing to do with prison numbers, I'm surprised you missed the second crest 3 days ago, 2,773

 

Do you want to nit pic on that?

 

Also where did I say a "catastrophe"?

 

Edited May 20, 20215 yr by Bkk Brian

2 hours ago, Ian223 said:

Sticking to the prison cases + 2000 formula it would appear.

 

If I give them the benefit of the doubt (which is probably not reasonable), it may be that their testing capacity is beyond the 2K but their ability to deliver test results might be limited to approximately 2,000. 

 

TIMELINE: Pattaya and Si Racha informs residents who visited places in relation to recent Chonburi Covid -19 cases

 

Tesco Lotus Harbor Mall Laem Chabang in Thung Sukhala, Si Racha on May 10th from Midday to 1:00 P.M..

 

See Moom Mueang Market in Thung Sukhala, Si Racha on May 10th from 5:00 P.M. to 6:00 P.M. on May, 13th from 4:30 P.M. to 5:00 P.M. and on May 15th from 5:00 P.M. to 5:30 P.M..

 

Nuan Jan Market in Thung Sukhala, Si Racha on May 12th from 4:30 P.M. to 5:00 P.M..

 

Together Barber Shop in Soi Buakhao, Pattaya on May 13th from 2:00 P.M. to 2:30 P.M..

 

https://thepattayanews.com/2021/05/20/timeline-pattaya-and-si-racha-informs-residents-who-visited-places-in-relation-to-recent-chonburi-covid-19-cases/