Expert says Thailand's surge in Covid-19 cases is 'failure of the winner'

[lavender19]

11 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

The article seems to blame it on the people.  While the government openly encouraged people to travel and enjoy during Songkran.  Disgusting hypocrisy.

That's who  Praytwat blamed a few weeks ago .The people not the cr@p supposed government

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It is nonsensical to cite the covid records of these very poor developing nations. Their low statistics reflect the fact that their public health systems are at a very low level of development - not the reality of what is occurring on the ground.

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5 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

Point of fact, if Thailand had tested 200,000,000 million more like the UK they'd have found and would continue to find considerably more.

 

Point of fact: that does nothing to explain why Thailand had far few deaths than the UK, for one.

[spidermike007]

It appears to have been dumb luck during the first wave, combined with the very effective use of the "drug cocktail", which the hospitals are not using this time around, due to the influence of the Big Pharma mafia. 

 

Add in the unbelievably extreme level of incompetence of the so called "health minister" and "national leader", and you have a situation that appears to be way over their heads. 

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1 hour ago, Thomas J said:

Again, 

I 'think" you are giving credit to Thailand when its record is virtually identical to Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, and Myanmar.  Were the same covid measures the reason that the Congo, Tanzania, Senegal, Rwanda, all have low Covid infection rates.     If the young population and hot temperature were not the causal factor in keeping the covid infection rate low then countries like Myanmar, Laos and Cambodia would have higher rates than Thailand.  They don't.  Countries that have poor healthcare systems and had meager responses to Covid measures such as the Congo, Somalia, Tanzania, or Mozambique would have much higher rates of Covid infection.  Not only don't they, their rate is at the very least of all countries.   What do they have extremely young median age populations and hot humid temperatures. 

I "think" what all the countries have done is pretty much the same.  They have had mask mandates, quarantines, contact tracing, business closures etc.  Yet some countries like Spain, Italy, Belgium, France and the U.K. have had high rates of infection.  In the USA you have states like Texas and Florida with the most lax Covid restrictions and their rate of infection is no different or lower than New York and New Jersey with extremely strict covid restrictions.  

I truly believe that the efforts of all of the countries to stop the spread of Covid have had at best only a minimal impact on its spread.  So to blame countries like Italy or Spain for their high numbers is no more realistic than giving credit to Thailand, the Congo, or Mozambique for their low covid infection rates. 

The unreal dichotomy in COVID-19 mortality between high-income and developing countries

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/future-development/2020/05/05/the-unreal-dichotomy-in-covid-19-mortality-between-high-income-and-developing-countries/

 

A Continent Where the Dead Are Not Counted

All 54 African countries put together have registered fewer Covid deaths than France. That doesn’t mean people aren’t dying from the virus.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/02/world/africa/africa-coronavirus-deaths-underreporting.html

[ukrules]

9 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

By “reaping the whirlwind “, you mean the current 2,000 infections per day, mostly concentrated in the Bangkok area....

No, far from it. They're detecting 3000+ a day - still a tiny number.

 

The real number of cases will be far higher than this and will only become known as the developing clusters come onto the radar. Just watch and see over the next month.

 

It's about to get real.

[RichardColeman]

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

Point of fact: that does nothing to explain why Thailand had far few deaths than the UK, for one.

yes and 10,000 odd unexplained deaths in the last 6 months

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4 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

yes and 10,000 odd unexplained deaths in the last 6 months

You sure about that? Here's a paper that gives an estimate for various nations excess mortality up to March 31. It gives a total of 6700. It also gives  range of ±11,000.

The World Mortality Dataset: Tracking excess mortality across countries during the COVID-19 pandemic (nih.gov)
That said, if Thailand had been seriously effected the way so many countries were, we would expect to see a surge in hospitalizations and lack of ICU beds, at least in the urban centers. Until recently, that hasn't happened.

[Rimmer]

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[ftpjtm]

5 hours ago, Donga said:

Locally Thailand has performed far better per capita than India, Singapore, Malaysia, Philippines, Indonesia, Sri Lanka among others

Thailand has also conducted fewer tests per capita than every nation you mentioned except Indonesia.

 

Thailand does deserve credit for slowing the spread at the start of the pandemic via closing borders, a strong quarantine system, and good isolation of COVID patients. But that credit was squandered by their abysmal vaccine efforts with an emphasis on enriching power brokers over quality of vaccines and quick access to them. 

[Blumpie]

12 hours ago, MasterBaker said:

winning, tiger blood

He's dead isn't he?  ????  

[Stargeezr]

I do have a curious question. How many International tourists have travelled to Thailand since say June 2020 until now?

  When I left Thailand in March 2020 and isolated 21 days in Canada on my arrival, I have had no desire to travel anywhere

abroad since then.  So if the international tourist trade dried up last Summer until now, maybe that is one big reason for

the low numbers of COVID.  Lack of new infected tourists perhaps, and only cases of COVID entering Thailand by illegal

border crossers and carriers who were considered essential travelers? Just some thinking being done here.

Geezer