Scott Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 A post with false or misleading information and no citation has been reported and removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 (edited) *Deleted post edited out* You mean like government stats which show the deaths for 2020 were 13.9% higher than the year before? Here - those government stats you mentioned (Deaths for England and Wales). https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths Raw statistic for England and wales (excel version is in the link). Deaths per year: 2015-2019 = 359,083 Deaths in 2020 = 614,144 - which is an increase of 75,031 people / 13.91% Deaths in 2021 (so far until the end of May) are down by 9% on last year, but still up by 10% compared to the average from 2015-2019. I too was not convinced by the severity of Covid-19 until I saw the raw stats in the middle of last year - the raw stats are damning evidence of the severity of Covid-19, the overwhelming need for a reliable vaccine. Edited June 9, 2021 by Scott 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natway09 Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 2 days into it,......... unbelievable, I was 5 days out with my predictions The man is a habitual liar or just believes what the Minister of Health (who we know is a liar) tells him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecoolfrog Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 13 hours ago, sandyf said: What is pathetic is thinking there has been a vaccine supermarket for the last year, open to everyone 24 hours with BOGOF. For obvious reasons I will not go into details of why I think it was done. Clearly though the initial total reliance on SB ( who had no experience in producing vaccines ) was a huge blunder. Do you disagree ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyf Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 16 hours ago, richard_smith237 said: I want to tag on a question: Did the UK invest more than the cost of 3 Chinese submarines ? Why not ask your teacher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyf Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 9 hours ago, joecoolfrog said: For obvious reasons I will not go into details of why I think it was done. Clearly though the initial total reliance on SB ( who had no experience in producing vaccines ) was a huge blunder. Do you disagree ? If Thailand made a mistake at all, it was indeed making an agreement with a company that couldn't be trusted to deliver. Hindsight is a wonderful thing and it may well have been better for Thailand to have come to an agreement with Sinovac last October. The vaccinations would have started in January and everyone would be happily vaccinated by now, or would they be? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecoolfrog Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 8 hours ago, sandyf said: If Thailand made a mistake at all, it was indeed making an agreement with a company that couldn't be trusted to deliver. Hindsight is a wonderful thing and it may well have been better for Thailand to have come to an agreement with Sinovac last October. The vaccinations would have started in January and everyone would be happily vaccinated by now, or would they be? Why the assumption that AZ is the reason for the delay rather than SB ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyf Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 14 hours ago, joecoolfrog said: Why the assumption that AZ is the reason for the delay rather than SB ? Thailand placed the orders and made the technology transfer agreement with Astrazeneca, not with Siam Bioscience. Responsibility for delivery lay with AZ. I saw Matt Hancock in front of the select committee yesterday. He said Astrazeneca was the UK's second choice to team up with Oxford uni, the first choice refused to agree to the UK's delivery demands and was kicked into touch. He didn't name the company concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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