Popular Post anchadian Posted June 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2021 Bangkok reported 3 new clusters in the past 24 hours, bringing the total to 78. Of the 58 active ones that reported cases in the past 14 days, 17 are in worker camps, 14 around markets and shopping centres, 13 at businesses and factories, and 12 in communities. https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1403230870488506368 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMuir Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 1 hour ago, wensiensheng said: My money is more on the fact that the Thai’s aren’t testing enough to find what’s there. If people show symptoms or have had contact with the infected they are tested. Or are you saying that random people showing no symptoms should line up and get tested? Have you been tested? If not, why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted June 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2021 (edited) I'm getting a real sense of complacency here, why pick the magic number of 10% before taking it seriously and closing down the area to clean, this is community spread and needs to be jumped on quickly. BMA launches proactive tests in Bang Rak area On Friday, the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration (BMA) began testing Thai nationals living or working in Soi Lalai Sap (Silom Soi 5) in Bangkok’s Bang Rak district after 13 Covid-19 cases were discovered in the area. Prasart Bodhisrimat, assistant director of the Bang Rak District Office, said the aim was to conduct swab tests on 1,000 Thai nationals, such as retailers and office workers. He added that the area will be closed until Saturday. “It may be closed for another three days for disinfection if 10 per cent or 100 people tested in the area are found to be infected,” he said. https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40001919 Edited June 11, 2021 by Bkk Brian 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMuir Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 48 minutes ago, daveAustin said: Not likely. English variant? Got to get that daily dose of hate in eh. No, I just bothered to actually read the link provided which revealed.. found 3,703 cases of the Alpha (UK) variant (88.48%) and 348 Delta cases (8.32%). sorry if you took it the wrong way. Burying your head in the sand won't help the situation. Where are you from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 State quarantine will not be provided from July 1 unless ordered otherwise by the prime minister. Free quarantine stay to be cancelled from July 1 People visiting Thailand or returning home will have to pay for their quarantine, because the government will soon stop supplying free accommodation, the Office of the National Security Council (ONSC) announced on Friday. https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40001920 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Petey11 Posted June 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, RobMuir said: If people show symptoms or have had contact with the infected they are tested. Or are you saying that random people showing no symptoms should line up and get tested? Have you been tested? If not, why not? It's pretty much a given that testing numbers are abysmal in Thailand pro-rata population. In the UK I myself have tested 3 times. And what about asymptomatic people or pre-symptomatic cases. Edited June 11, 2021 by Petey11 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RichardColeman Posted June 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2021 4 hours ago, FarFlungFalang said: After a 6 weeks absence the testing numbers have reappeared on our world in data.The last report on 24th April was 0.95 per 1000 and the highest since then was 0.97 per 1000 on the 31st May they now seem to be heading down again. https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-testing#how-many-tests-are-performed-each-day According to that link Thailand is at 1 positive case per 20.8 tests - no wonder they are testing less. Any more testing risks even more closures ! UK is currently 1 positive per 179 tests. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post polpott Posted June 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2021 4 hours ago, RobMuir said: Less than 9% of cases. The English variant still making up 88% of detected cases and killing hundreds of Thais. I wonder if you can be infected with both variants simultaneously? Thanks for your daily dose of nonsensical Brit bashing (no such thing as the "English variant" it was the UK variant). 96% of new cases in the UK are now the Indian variant. Expect the same for Thailand shortly. Its the nature of viruses, the more virulent forms quickly supplant existing forms. What are you going to use to bash the Brits with now? 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FarFlungFalang Posted June 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, RichardColeman said: According to that link Thailand is at 1 positive case per 20.8 tests - no wonder they are testing less. Any more testing risks even more closures ! UK is currently 1 positive per 179 tests. Anymore testing would also threaten the dreaded sandbox which seems to be covered in cobwebs so thick it's no longer recognisable.Compare the dates of testing and cases numbers and see the cases follow the testing numbers up or down.They don't seem to want to test more than 1 per 1,000 of the population. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey11 Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 https://ddc.moph.go.th/viralpneumonia/eng/index.php Note the new PUI, say no more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wensiensheng Posted June 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2021 42 minutes ago, RobMuir said: If people show symptoms or have had contact with the infected they are tested. Or are you saying that random people showing no symptoms should line up and get tested? Have you been tested? If not, why Yup, outreach testing is a <deleted> idea. I have no idea why countries like Taiwan, China, Australia, New Zealand, Singapore, South Korea do so much of it. What a complete waste of time. No wonder they have such little success controlling Covid. Oh, wait…… Since you ask, I have not been tested. Then again, I don’t work in a factory, a market, a shopping mall or live in a worker camp. Nor am I in prison. but if cases were found in the area where I live, I would not object to being tested. I probably go to the same 7-11, supermarkets that many other people do that live near me. So even if I don’t have symptoms, or afaik been in contact with a positive case, it might not be a bad idea to test me. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olmate Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 48 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: State quarantine will not be provided from July 1 unless ordered otherwise by the prime minister. Free quarantine stay to be cancelled from July 1 People visiting Thailand or returning home will have to pay for their quarantine, because the government will soon stop supplying free accommodation, the Office of the National Security Council (ONSC) announced on Friday. https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40001920 Aust has been doing same since the start last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wensiensheng Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 54 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: I'm getting a real sense of complacency here, why pick the magic number of 10% before taking it seriously and closing down the area to clean, this is community spread and needs to be jumped on quickly. BMA launches proactive tests in Bang Rak area On Friday, the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration (BMA) began testing Thai nationals living or working in Soi Lalai Sap (Silom Soi 5) in Bangkok’s Bang Rak district after 13 Covid-19 cases were discovered in the area. Prasart Bodhisrimat, assistant director of the Bang Rak District Office, said the aim was to conduct swab tests on 1,000 Thai nationals, such as retailers and office workers. He added that the area will be closed until Saturday. “It may be closed for another three days for disinfection if 10 per cent or 100 people tested in the area are found to be infected,” he said. https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40001919 The 10% figure is a strange one. That is quite a high figure to be comfortable with, or at least if it comes in at 99 people. Countries with a rigorous response would close and disinfect immediately, and if less rigorous, I would have thought anything close to 3% positivity would ring alarm bells. perhaps they have been seeing such high positivity rates in prisons, factories, worker camps, that 10% now seems low. But I don’t think that it is personally. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wensiensheng Posted June 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2021 1 hour ago, anchadian said: Inoculations continue to drop: National Vaccination Rollout: DAY 1: 416,847 doses DAY 2: 472,128 doses DAY 3: 336,674 doses DAY 4: 223,315 doses TOTAL: 1,448,964 11th June: 1st Dose: Sinovac 23,879 | AstraZeneca 153,474 2nd Dose: Sinovac 41,932 | AstraZeneca 4,030 https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1403225358892105729 It was pretty much bound to happen. The challenge wasn’t vaccinating 500k people in one day. It was doing it every day. The authorities are in a marathon, they will need to focus for more than five minutes AND stick to making sure vaccinated means TWO jabs, not one. It’s going to be tough. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Olmate said: Aust has been doing same since the start last year. errrh ok? I never knew Australia even provided free quarantine for returning travellers last year. The UK certainly never has. I think Thailand has been one of the few that ever did that up till now of course as its obviously costing them too much Edited June 11, 2021 by Bkk Brian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olmate Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said: errrh ok? I never knew they even provided free quarantine for returning travellers last year. The UK certainly never has. I think Thailand has been one of the few that ever did that up till now of course as its obviously costing them too much Sorry Brian. It was free in Oz when first introduced.Been 60k baht.for 12months approx now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post anchadian Posted June 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2021 https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10158074235367050 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, Olmate said: Sorry Brian. It was free in Oz when first introduced.Been 60k baht.for 12months approx now. No need to be sorry I never knew it had ever been free there. That was good of them though while it lasted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FarFlungFalang Posted June 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2021 1 hour ago, RobMuir said: If people show symptoms or have had contact with the infected they are tested. Or are you saying that random people showing no symptoms should line up and get tested? Have you been tested? If not, why not? If people show symptoms and don't go in for a test how do they get tested?If people come in contact with people who are infected but haven't been tested how do you know if they are infected?There have been many that I have seen with symptoms who were never tested including myself.Not easy to get tested where I live.Not easy for people who are poor to volunteer to get locked up for 2 weeks if they test positive.I was once in a hospital sneezing my head off in the height of the original wave and didn't get tested. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 17 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: The UK certainly never has. Perhaps about 15 months ago those being brought back from Wuhan were put up for free quarantine... for all the good it did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMuir Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 1 hour ago, polpott said: Thanks for your daily dose of nonsensical Brit bashing (no such thing as the "English variant" it was the UK variant Gee, a lot of oversensitive Brits here. I don't hear the Indians or South Africans complaining. You have to harden up and just face the reality. I am not sure where you live, but I actually live in Thailand and in Thailand it is known as the English variant. I hear it everyday on the morning and evening news, unsurprisingly it is talked about endlessly as it is the strain killing hundreds of Thais. If it doesn't suit your narrative, no use complaining to me, complain to the Thai news broadcasters. eg. https://www.posttoday.com/social/general/655122 They ain't calling it the "UK" variant, they are calling it the English variant, or English strain. As if it matters in the slightest anyway. People are dying and you are carrying on about a name? If you can't read or understand Thai language maybe you could ask a Thai friend to read the link I kindly provided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 Interestingly Vicoria had an outbreak (got up to 70+cases) locked down for 2 weeks and today zero community transmissions from a very low 17,000 tests. The high was around 54,000 tests in a day. >600,000 tests in a couple of wks. This is what circuit breakers do. Thailand did not do this. When the Thong Lor outbraek was discovered and before Songkran travel was allowed to go ahead numbers here were 'reportedly' in the 90's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMuir Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 1 hour ago, FarFlungFalang said: If people show symptoms and don't go in for a test how do they get tested?If people come in contact with people who are infected but haven't been tested how do you know if they are infected?There have been many that I have seen with symptoms who were never tested including myself.Not easy to get tested where I live.Not easy for people who are poor to volunteer to get locked up for 2 weeks if they test positive.I was once in a hospital sneezing my head off in the height of the original wave and didn't get tested. They were rapid testing everyone entering Phuket a few weeks ago. Many members of this forum were up in arms about it. I have a Thai mate who showed symptoms last week, he was tested almost immediately (but fortunately came up positive) Nowhere in the West are they dragging people off the street to be tested. Why should the Thais do it? The people calling for more Thais to be tested should go and get tested themselves if they feel so strongly about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olmate Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 8 minutes ago, dinsdale said: Interestingly Vicoria had an outbreak (got up to 70+cases) locked down for 2 weeks and today zero community transmissions from a very low 17,000 tests. The high was around 54,000 tests in a day. >600,000 tests in a couple of wks. This is what circuit breakers do. Thailand did not do this. When the Thong Lor outbraek was discovered and before Songkran travel was allowed to go ahead numbers here were 'reportedly' in the 90's. You should realize tho that Oz. specially victorians have been so brainwashed by government they think" the end is nigh.!" 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dinsdale Posted June 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2021 2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: I'm getting a real sense of complacency here, why pick the magic number of 10% before taking it seriously and closing down the area to clean, this is community spread and needs to be jumped on quickly. BMA launches proactive tests in Bang Rak area On Friday, the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration (BMA) began testing Thai nationals living or working in Soi Lalai Sap (Silom Soi 5) in Bangkok’s Bang Rak district after 13 Covid-19 cases were discovered in the area. Prasart Bodhisrimat, assistant director of the Bang Rak District Office, said the aim was to conduct swab tests on 1,000 Thai nationals, such as retailers and office workers. He added that the area will be closed until Saturday. “It may be closed for another three days for disinfection if 10 per cent or 100 people tested in the area are found to be infected,” he said. https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40001919 This should be happening across BKK and the rest of Thailand. BKK alone should be doing at least 50k a day. Nooooo! Sorry what am I thinking. This is impossible. If this happened numbers would certainly go well above 2K a day (at 10% 5,000 p/d) and economics is more important than reality of people dying etc. The truth is out there they just aint lookin'. They never have. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FarFlungFalang Posted June 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, RobMuir said: They were rapid testing everyone entering Phuket a few weeks ago. Many members of this forum were up in arms about it. I have a Thai mate who showed symptoms last week, he was tested almost immediately (but fortunately came up positive) Nowhere in the West are they dragging people off the street to be tested. Why should the Thais do it? The people calling for more Thais to be tested should go and get tested themselves if they feel so strongly about it. Some people who get symptoms get tested.I should have been pinged for pedantry. I think a lot of Thais are quite happy ignoring the whole pandemic thing I know my wife is.What mostly pains me is the pretence of concern the Thai Authorities have for anything other than money and power.The whole lock down thing was to protect the elderly and vulnerable much concern was voiced for these people but none is showing in their actions of vaccinating their money making groups and the old and vulnerable are those at the end of the queue!It's really a spineless display of cowardice. Edited June 11, 2021 by FarFlungFalang 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phuketshrew Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 22 minutes ago, RobMuir said: I have a Thai mate who showed symptoms last week, he was tested almost immediately (but fortunately came up positive) With mates like you who needs enemies eh? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMuir Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 2 hours ago, Petey11 said: In the UK I myself have tested 3 times. The death rate in the UK from Covid is 900 times higher. Not double, not ten times, not one hundred times, but 900 times. Or more simply 127,867 deaths versus 1,402. Why so many Brits are so critical of the Thai response but want to talk up the Brit response I find very odd. And given the fact that Thailand is now suffering from what is commonly referred to as the English strain it becomes farcical IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 (edited) A 46-year-old woman who died hours after receiving her first AstraZeneca vaccination on Tuesday succumbed to a heart attack, according to autopsy results released on Friday. https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40001928 Edited June 11, 2021 by anchadian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 15 minutes ago, RobMuir said: They were rapid testing everyone entering Phuket a few weeks ago. Many members of this forum were up in arms about it. I have a Thai mate who showed symptoms last week, he was tested almost immediately (but fortunately came up positive) Nowhere in the West are they dragging people off the street to be tested. Why should the Thais do it? The people calling for more Thais to be tested should go and get tested themselves if they feel so strongly about it. What a stupid comment. Whose talking about being dragged off the street (CCP should not be included). People in the west as you say are asked if they have the mildest of symtoms to go and get tested and people do. Testing is one of the keys to finding the virus and stopping the spread. The only way numbers in the near future will go down will be in corrolation to testing going down otherwise there is no end in sight. Vaccines should help but this virus is amazing. Never seen before in nature I would think. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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