All go for the Phuket Sandbox - 13,000 rooms booked, foreign airlines set for Samui later, TAT

[BarraMarra]

On 6/29/2021 at 7:30 AM, Espanol said:

 

That's not what normative says:

 

https://www.tatnews.org/2021/06/initial-information-phuket-sandbox/

 

"In the case that travellers are tested positive for COVID-19, travellers will be referred to specified healthcare facilities for medical treatment at their own expense."

Welcome to Pookertraz here's your Cell oops Hotel.

[BarraMarra]

Any 7/11 off the shelf.

[schvonsky1]

On 6/29/2021 at 3:31 AM, colinneil said:

Do these clowns ever get fed up with spouting sh##e, because it is the same old nonsense every time, great things going to happen, then............ POOF it doesnt.????????

Time will tell next week unless you can do things better ????

[ThailandRyan]

Just now, schvonsky1 said:

Time will tell next week unless you can do things better ????

Next week? Do you not mean Tomorrow as the Good PM himself will be in Phuket to greet the arrivals at the Airport.  I hope he is not disappointed, but I am sure they will mass people up especially media to showcase the grand reopening.

[CLW]

On 6/29/2021 at 3:45 PM, Espanol said:

 

I have not read that anywhere. Can you post a link to that rules?

I think I read it on Richard Barrow twitter.

[Salerno]

  

21 hours ago, JCP108 said:

You might surmise wrong. I want to know if they really do release people upon a second test which is negative. 

 

Has happened in the past; no idea about now but there is a precedent and they need the beds now. Best example was a family that tested positive on day 1, result being full refund from ASQ hotel, insurance paid hospital and there quarantine was cut short. No idea if they bought a lottery ticket on release.

 

 

[Salerno]

  

 

19 hours ago, brucegoniners said:

Sooooo, they're required to spend 14 days, but they've booked for an average of 12 days, eh? I wasn't a math major, but that doesn't add up...

 

Only if you intend travelling in Thailand later. The journos/travel agents getting flown in will no doubt just spend a couple of days in Phuket then head home.

 

Edited June 30, 2021 by Salerno

[Salerno]

 

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Edited June 30, 2021 by Salerno

[LivinginKata]

7 minutes ago, Salerno said:

  

 

 

Only if you intend travelling in Thailand later. The journos/travel agents getting flown will no doubt just spend a couple of days in Phuket then head home.

 

Exactly. They are never taking the 2nd test. All smoke and mirrors.

[Bluedan]

On 6/29/2021 at 9:41 AM, JCP108 said:

If you believe that the PCR tests carry a false positive rate of 0.5% (I do) and each sandboxer will have a 1.5% chance of getting a false positive, then out of every 1,000 travelers, 15 of them will get a 14-day stay in one of the two field hospitals they have set up on the island. One thing I wonder about: if an asymptomatic person gets a false positive test result and ends up in the field hospital (read hospitel or forced quarantine in a hotel), how much will they have to pay out of pocket? I can't imagine their insurance policy paying if they aren't symptomatic and aren't put in an actual hospital to get actual treatment. 

and that person may well lose his return ticket and job if unable to return as scheduled

[gim12]

their stats on rooms  and flights booked is meaningless, I have my refundable room and flight booked,  and...I will cancel at the last minute if this cluster doesn't get straightened out

[BernieOnTour]

On 6/29/2021 at 4:41 AM, JCP108 said:

If you believe that the PCR tests carry a false positive rate of 0.5% (I do) and each sandboxer will have a 1.5% chance of getting a false positive, then out of every 1,000 travelers, 15 of them will get a 14-day stay in one of the two field hospitals they have set up on the island. One thing I wonder about: if an asymptomatic person gets a false positive test result and ends up in the field hospital (read hospitel or forced quarantine in a hotel), how much will they have to pay out of pocket? I can't imagine their insurance policy paying if they aren't symptomatic and aren't put in an actual hospital to get actual treatment. 

 

I wouldn’t be astonished, if that’s part of their calculation ????

 

Because: the field hospitals are for Thai citizens,

”Aliens” have to go into a real hospital.

 

”Bangkok hospital, here I come !”

 

... another 100k plus

 

Btw: 0.5% FP from specifity would be a really good percentage,

there are European studies estimating up to 1.5%,

depends on the quality assurance during sample taking, transport, laboratory practice

and of cause the Ct-value (the amplification)

Edited July 1, 2021 by BernieOnTour

[billd766]

On 6/30/2021 at 5:00 PM, schvonsky1 said:

Time will tell next week unless you can do things better ????

TBH  I would give it until the end of July by which time the first batch of tourists will have done their time and on their way home.

 

It also will give some proving time for Covid in any variant to rear is ugly head or not.

 

It will also give the airlines time to consider how much of a loss they can take and for both the Thai government and Phuket local government to decide it will work or not.