Haval H6

[pj123]

The new GW Haval H6 looks like good value. 1,149,000 base version and 1,249,000 top spec. Reviews from Australia are positive but they have a different engine. Thailand gets a 1.5 litre hybrid. The nearest competitor by spec is the Mazda CX-5 2.5 SP which costs 1.9 million but it is 4WD. I understand the Haval is front wheel drive.

 

English review for Thai version here. The review is helpful so please disregard his terrible dress sense! Middle aged man with ripped jeans and Porn Hub T-Shirt! 

 

Edited June 29, 2021 by pj123

[Surelynot]

Like the MG....the wheels are too small for the arches.

[pj123]

Same as the Everest. Buy bigger wheels/tyres?

China has a 4WD version which may explain this wheel size:

 

Edited June 29, 2021 by pj123

[Surelynot]

2 minutes ago, pj123 said:

Same as the Everest. Buy bigger wheels/tyres?

I would......hate that tiny wheel look......totally spoils the car.

[tifino]

 Goodyear G26 tyres would suit its non-offroad    umm capabilities ????   

 

 

I'd put the small tyre look down, as a marketing idea; to give the impression there's a real lot of 'travel' in the suspension ???? 

[macahoom]

7 hours ago, josthomz said:

Everyone who follows me knows that I am 100% in favor of China, and hate the typical Chinese bashers. And what comes here is not at all a Chinese bashing post, mainly because 99.9999% of Chinese people would agree with what I am about to say.

 

First of all, when it comes to cars, for me it's just Mercedes that does it. 

 

And allow me to say, that when I had to buy a Mercedes in China, it was the imported version and not the Mercedes-Benz manufactured in Beijing by BAIC Group. Cuz trust me, there is difference, between the two. 

 

HAVAL, not a single boss in China drives a HAVAL, save for HAVAL CEO, maybe. Even those middle class Chinese would rather buy a second hand European car than a HAVAL or BYD, etc... 

 

China does many great things, but cars is one of the things that even their own citizens aren't convinced about, and they openly say it in Chinese social media. 

 

For 1.2 Million Baht you can buy a second hand Mercedes, BMW, etc.... My advice would be that in the long term you're probably gonna be happier with the second-hand older Mercedes than with the new Haval. 

 

Interesting, and thank you for your viewpoint.

 

I bought a new MGZS EV almost two years ago; made in China. It is absolutely brilliant and has been 100% trouble free, so far.

 

Do you expect it will start to fall apart and give me lots of problems in the coming years? 

 

Serious question.

[Ralf001]

8 minutes ago, macahoom said:

 

 

 

I bought a new MGZS EV almost two years ago; made in China.

 

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It was made in Thailand, Chonburi infact.

[macahoom]

48 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

 

It was made in Thailand, Chonburi infact.

 

Mine is a ZS EV - made in China.

 

At least, mine was made in China about 2 years ago.

 

Maybe they're now making them in Thailand. Have you got a link which shows this to be the case?

Edited June 30, 2021 by macahoom

[Ralf001]

26 minutes ago, macahoom said:

 

Mine is a ZS EV - made in China.

 

At least, mine was made in China about 2 years ago.

 

Maybe they're now making them in Thailand. Have you got a link which shows this to be the case?

 

My Bad, you are correct... I mixed up the models.

MGZS is slated to start Thai production Q4 this year.

[pj123]

If I wanted a Mercedes SUV and had only 1.25 million I could only get a 10 year old ML250 with 180,000 km. GLA is too small. Sedans are better value but no use to me . No warranty and all cars once they get to 10 years are an endless source of repair bills. 

Edited June 30, 2021 by pj123

[canthai55]

A ten year old Benz in Germany - or Europe - would not be much of a problem, other than the typical MB/BMW stuff

A 10 year old Benz here - 555

 

[ThailandRyan]

18 hours ago, Surelynot said:

Like the MG....the wheels are too small for the arches.

So explain what tire size the MG should have.  My MG came with 18" tires.  Sure a 20" would look nice but its not practical in my book.

Edited June 30, 2021 by ThailandRyan

[pj123]

I know people increase the wheel/tyre size on their Everests from standard diameter of 776mm to 806 mm (and up to 816 mm if they don't plan to go serious off roading). They will use OBD2 software called Forscan to adjust the diameter of the wheels in the car's system so that speed and distance travelled are accurate. So I guess you could do the same for any car so long as you can adjust the car's system for the new wheel size.

Edited June 30, 2021 by pj123

[Ralf001]

On 6/30/2021 at 4:36 PM, pj123 said:

I know people increase the wheel/tyre size on their Everests from standard diameter of 776mm to 806 mm (and up to 816 mm if they don't plan to go serious off roading). They will use OBD2 software called Forscan to adjust the diameter of the wheels in the car's system so that speed and distance travelled are accurate. So I guess you could do the same for any car so long as you can adjust the car's system for the new wheel size.

 

Going from a 265/50/20 (773mm) to a 305/50/20 (813mm) is a big increase, what does this do to the Everest's gearing ?

 

Isn't the Everest rims 8" wide ?..... thats a bit narrow for a 305 tire.

[pj123]

6 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

 

Going from a 265/50/20 (773mm) to a 305/50/20 (813mm) is a big increase, what does this do to the Everest's gearing ?

 

Isn't the Everest rims 8" wide ?..... thats a bit narrow for a 305 tire.

 No idea. Just been looking at this as considering buying a used Everest and hate the weedy wheels. The comments section in this Youtube video are useful:

 

Edited July 4, 2021 by pj123

[ThailandRyan]

https://www.news.com.au/technology/motoring/new-cars/2021-haval-jolion-review-poor-drive-lets-down-cheap-suv/news-story/be6ab4d570d43216c35eb608165bece6

[pj123]

More relevant Australian review for the H6, although with a less powerful drive train. https://www.caradvice.com.au/948181/2021-haval-h6-review/

[Liverpool Lou]

On 6/30/2021 at 2:29 PM, canthai55 said:

A ten year old Benz in Germany - or Europe - would not be much of a problem, other than the typical MB/BMW stuff

A 10 year old Benz here - 555

 

What's so funny about buying a 2011 Merc here?  Serious question.

[canthai55]

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

What's so funny about buying a 2011 Merc here?  Serious question.

Most manufacturers keep spare parts on hand for 10 years max

If so for MB then all parts will have to be imported.

Do you have a code reader and/or scan tool that will read 2011 MB models ?

Better check if someone has.

Mine will do it no problem if I buy the upgrade - as I have never owned a German car I have never bothered

[Liverpool Lou]

9 minutes ago, canthai55 said:

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

What's so funny about buying a 2011 Merc here?  Serious question.

Most manufacturers keep spare parts on hand for 10 years max

If so for MB then all parts will have to be imported.

If that's accurate (and I don't believe that it is) same for most manufacturers, then, no downside particularly to Mercs of that age.   

Edited July 6, 2021 by Liverpool Lou