5 minutes ago, anchadian said:

35 died in less than 6 days of diagnosis

2 died at home

I wonder if they've been prompted to start mentioning deaths at home by the forensic doctor who has been taking pcr tests while giving an autopsy only to discover they were positive, generally people from the slums who had died at home.

18 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Remember this Government seems to believe that being vaccinated with just 1 AZ jab means you are ok to travel to Areas especially Phuket.  I think the point is that the individual the post is about has had only one AZ jab and so it shows that the governments belief that one jab will do ya is wrong, but then that's just my view.

You are right , what i was talking about was fully vaccinated people with 2 shots and the incubation time .

2 minutes ago, Nanaplaza666 said:

I don't think his point is to tell people to ignore the virus but to tell people that when fully vaccinated(with the good vaccines ofcourse not the chinese shait)will get this country closer to reopening and getting back to some kind of normal . In the Uk 32.000 new infected but how many hospitalized or die ?? Hospital beds stay empty and IC's getting emptier . Same as in the netherlands they opened up and now there where festivals and parties in clubs where everyone needed to prove being vaccinated or test amd the nr's of infections went up massively (duh,ofcourse they go up if mass testing starts again) but most of these posetives are young people in there 20ties and 30ties and they feel sick for 1 day and thats it nothing severe . 

So tell that to the 29 year old lady whos baby was delivered premature when she had to be put on a trach tube because she was having severe breathing problem due to covid or the 30 year old nurse who was double vaccinated with Sinovac here and dies.  You keep making generalizations and by the way you write about them you make it sound as if its truly nothing severe for those in their 20's and 30's yet everyday here and elsewhere in the world young members of society die from this virus. 

19 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

The individual in the article wasn’t fully vaccinated. He had one jab of AZ only.

 

the article is information, I assume you can read it, make of it what you will and move on

To you as well I am talking about fully vaccinated people 2 shots and incubation time . Don't really care what the article says . This is what i am saying . 

4 minutes ago, Nanaplaza666 said:

You are right , what i was talking about was fully vaccinated people with 2 shots and the incubation time .

Happy to hear you finally got the point about the post with just the one jab, well done

Edited July 11, 20215 yr by Bkk Brian

4 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Former red-shirt leader Nattawut Saikua has just posted on Facebook that he has tested positive for #COVID19. “I was vaccinated with 1 dose of AstraZeneca vaccine on 8th June. On 8th July I went to test for COVID-19. I was told a moment ago that I have tested positive.”

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1413867805661798400

 

And what you want to tell us? 

It's already well known that you can have Covid between 2 jabs. 

So not worth to mention ????.

However, if YOU didn't know....... 

19 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

another one..............oh dear

 

the point being that even though you've had one shot of vaccine you still need take a great deal of care. However the point is now also being made by the media, which also mentions about another high profile MP who this time had both shots of Sinovac and tested positive

 

Nattawut, MP Nattacha test positive for Covid-19 despite vaccine jabs

 

Former red-shirt leader Nattawut Saikuar on Saturday said he had tested positive for Covid-19.

In his Facebook post, he said he received the first AstraZeneca jab on June 8 this year. He apologised to people who had been in contact with him so far.

"I will contact the public health agency to receive medical treatment," he said.

 

Earlier, Move Forward Party MP Nattacha Boonchaiinsawat said on his Facebook page that he has been infected with Covid-19.

He said he had received two doses of the Sinovac vaccine, claiming that he had always complied with measures to contain the spread of Covid-19.

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40003089

You can repeat your post however many times you want my reaction stays the same , people that are fully vaccinated can still get the virus and spread the virus . This is publicly known so what is it axactly you are trying to say ??? 

23 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

I think he is referring to UK hospitals being empty…..which is also totally false. They might not be overwhelmed, but they are not empty of Covid cases.

True. Both my daughters back in the UK are frontline NHS staff and say there has been a marked increase of patients over the last few weeks although not nearly as bad as it was when over a thousand were dying daily.

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

Happy to hear you finally got the point, well done

This is what i replied to Thailandryan and not to you . Don't take credit for other peoples achievements .

4 minutes ago, Nanaplaza666 said:

To you as well I am talking about fully vaccinated people 2 shots and incubation time . Don't really care what the article says . This is what i am saying . 

Say whatever you want. But why do you link what you are saying to an unrelated article?

 

makes little sense to me. People will think like me, that you are referring to the linked article.

 

 

 

1 minute ago, sawadee1947 said:

And what you want to tell us? 

It's already well known that you can have Covid between 2 jabs. 

So not worth to mention ????.

However, if YOU didn't know....... 

Here, its been picked up by the Nation News, perhaps take it up with them if you fail to understand the significance or failed to read the posts above, good luck

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40003089

1 minute ago, Nanaplaza666 said:

This is what i replied to Thailandryan and not to you . Don't take credit for other peoples achievements .

It was in my original post and that was the point that you failed to understand..........................again

From the total 9,539 cases that were found in the past 24 hours:

 

- 7,113 were found via tests at medical facilities

- 2,305 via proactive tests at known clusters

- 103 via proactive tests in prisons

- 18 imported cases

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1414104028464652293

 

5 minutes ago, sawadee1947 said:

And what you want to tell us? 

It's already well known that you can have Covid between 2 jabs. 

So not worth to mention ????.

However, if YOU didn't know....... 

strange how it makes the national newspapers in Thailand, but YOU don’t think it’s “worth to mention”.

 

perhaps the issue is that YOU aren’t interested, but others might be?

26 minutes ago, anchadian said:

11 July: 2,783/728 <— Today

That's not nice. 

Must have an upper limit at some point.

15 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

For the “hospitals are full” crowd, some 3,000+ net admissions yesterday (7,113 total with 4,053 discharges), so 3,000 more people were squeezed into the hospital system. 
 

Of course, this is not sustainable. And I am not saying that these people are now in appropriate levels of care.

3 days ago, people here were saying that hospitals were full, but that was 10,000 net admissions ago.

 

Presumably the hospital system includes field hospitals which have been in a case of continuous expansion. The kind of care than can offer differs greatly from what established hospitals can do.

4 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

It was in my original post and that was the point that you failed to understand..........................again

I'm sorry , What ? 

18 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

For the “hospitals are full” crowd, some 3,000+ net admissions yesterday (7,113 total with 4,053 discharges), so 3,000 more people were squeezed into the hospital system. 

I think that should be the "Bangkok hospitals are full" crowd?So do you have a breakdown of where the admissions and discharges occurred?With many infections occurring outside of Bangkok that would mean many admissions would be occurring outside of Bangkok.

Edited July 11, 20215 yr by FarFlungFalang

1 minute ago, Nanaplaza666 said:

That's very selfconfident of you to think that other people think the same as you. I don't . 

Well, you made a simple statement, which I happen to agree with btw, about double vaccinated people still being able to catch Covid. But linked it to an article talking about a nationally known figure in Thailand who caught Covid after one vaccination.

 

you then said that you don’t care what is in the article, you are just making a statement.

 

so yes, I am fairly confident others, like me, might notice that your statement doesn’t relate to the article.

 

I’m not surprised that you don’t think like me, I would be somewhat worried if you did tbh.

 

have a nice day.

4 hours ago, Marvin Hagler said:

9,500 is nowhere near the real number...even every otherwise uninterested Thai I know is aware that the real number is much higher.

 

On a side noted I saw today a video post on Facebook of a large gym in Pattaya...the gym was packed and not a single person was wearing a mask. Wonder if steroids protects from Covid?

 

We only need to look to Indonesia to see what happens next for Thailand.

 

And opening Phuket on the back of lies and deception is criminal...literally. 

How do you know the figures are lower than the real number ? What is your source other than uninterested Thai’s ? Oh yeah, Facebook 555

1 minute ago, FarFlungFalang said:

I think that should be the "Bangkok hospitals are full" crowd?So do you have a breakdown of where the admissions and discharges occurred?With many infections occurring outside of Bangkok that would mean many admissions would be occurring outside of Bangkok.

And then if he can please tell us how many are at home in isolation taking Favipiravir and waiting for a bed when they open? and ergo it will grow again tomorrow, but he is still stuck in the world of statistical anomalies based upon discharges and admissions in evaluating the virus and spread.  Sad he can not see past the keyboard and look at the reality based upon those outside still waiting to get tested and those waiting on vaccinations, just sad he has been stuck on this mantra for days and days.  Covid is rampant unlike what he believed back in April when many of us indicated it was so and was spreading but a lack of Random testing and mass testing was why they did not see it.  Since the delta variant arrived folks have become sicker faster and it has become more worrisome for manner.

It must be the weekend again.  Where are all the medical staff?

 

About 4.9 percent of the population is fully vaccinated. 9,213,598 (+83,072) people have received the first dose, while 3,255,590 (+10,212) have been fully inoculated. #วัคซีนโควิด19 #ฉีดวัคซีน #COVID19 #ล็อกดาวน์ #Thailand #KE

https://twitter.com/KhaosodEnglish/status/1414106041206272003

 

2 hours ago, robblok said:

Why the track, the leanest people are bodybuilders not track runners. So its a bit bias. You can get as lean in a gym as on a track. Its all diet. I never known a single individual who could out-train  a bad diet. Also you seem to be really ridged in your thinking. This is not about gyms or tracks or what is best. The best exercise is the one you like and keep doing. 

 

For one its the track for an other walking again an other likes swimming and some like working out with weights and do some cardio. Consistency counts not what you do and diet counts most if its about fat.

You deduce an awful lot from a simple catch phrase.  

 

Let me put it another way: aerobic activity vs anerobic.

 

If you are a superbly conditioned athlete who does the both then no worries, but this does not apply to most big guys I see in a gym ( not that I currently go as it is the last place you want to be when a virus is doing the rounds)

 

Of course you have to watch your diet, etc.

 

At times, you're a one man dispute really rob

 

I'm simply saying: If you want to maximise your chances of avoiding covid19 in Thailand get outside and do some aerobic activity.  

Edited July 11, 20215 yr by mommysboy

1 hour ago, chilli42 said:

I was recently discharged from a hospital in Bangkok.  All of the staff have been vaccinated with Sinovac and all are well aware that it’s completely useless against the Delta variant.  It takes a big pair (so to speak) to go to work day after day knowing how little protection you have.  RIP to this young lady and kudos to the others who have to face this day after day as part of their job.  
 

It really burns me up that the meager supply of the AZ vaccine went to a select privileged group rather than those working on the front line (I know AZ is not perfect but a long way better than Sinovac).

'I know AZ is not perfect'

 

And neither is Pfizer/Moderna.

 

But they are all very effective, and Sinovac is quite good.

 

 

44 minutes ago, Martinpeter said:

From tomorrow!/.

 

restricted travel advise not travel!

 

But we must still go to immigration (people travel into the Dark Red zone! + others & from everywhere)? go!

 

and queue up with hundreds of people?

 

Does this make sense?

 

more speading covid?

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think the term they're using is "necessary" travel.  So, I guess they will deem a trip to Immigration to do an Extension of Stay, 90-day report etc as being "necessary"!     

From the 127 currently active clusters in Bangkok, 112 have reported cases in the past 14 days including 40 in worker camps & working sites, 29 at businesses & factories, 21 around markets & shopping centres, 14 at residential areas, 4 at care homes & 4 others.

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1414108557163712516

 

4 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

And then if he can please tell us how many are at home in isolation taking Favipiravir and waiting for a bed when they open? and ergo it will grow again tomorrow, but he is still stuck in the world of statistical anomalies based upon discharges and admissions in evaluating the virus and spread.  Sad he can not see past the keyboard and look at the reality based upon those outside still waiting to get tested and those waiting on vaccinations, just sad he has been stuck on this mantra for days and days.  Covid is rampant unlike what he believed back in April when many of us indicated it was so and was spreading but a lack of Random testing and mass testing was why they did not see it.  Since the delta variant arrived folks have become sicker faster and it has become more worrisome for manner.

Let’s recap the bidding.

 

In late April and May, the number of new infections from the Alpha variant was flattening out. I merely pointed that out, which triggered some people, and apparently still does.

 

now you are off on some vendetta against a simple and obvious correlation between hospital walk-in cases and future near term new infections. Do you want me recite some creed before discussing the numbers?

 

” to all here: I understand that these numbers conceal many individuals who are unable to find a hospital bed, and have waited many days, and some part of discharges and admissions are from field hospitals, where conditions are terrible and may allow different strains of the virus to combine, and not all of the new admissions are in Bangkok, so please forgive me for posting the Cliff Notes version of the data.”

Just now, brewsterbudgen said:

I think the term they're using is "necessary" travel.  So, I guess they will deem a trip to Immigration to do an Extension of Stay, 90-day report etc as being "necessary"!     

In Phuket last year when we had a hard lockdown then no, there was no need to do the 90 day report, whether that will be the case in Bangkok?

29 minutes ago, Marvin Hagler said:

I have read some silly comments on here but saying that more affluent people are less worried about Covid is completely absurd. So CEOs of major companies aren’t worried about Covid and what it might do to earnings? The list goes on. How utterly silly that comment is.

God dammit, I can't remember exactly what I wrote but given the amount of blowback I got I must've chosen my words either extremely well or extremely poorly.

 

I'll start by providing context on the sampled groups on which I based my previous statement, because they are likely materially different than the Thaivisa AseanNow demo in general. There's no good way to do this without it coming across like a flex, but that's not the intention of this post.

 

As context: I work in a fairly rigorous financial position, and have done relatively well in my career to-date. As part of my job, I speak fairly regularly with other accomplished finance pros as well as c-suite execs. In my personal life I also interact regularly with folks in their 20s through 40s who are accomplished in their fields on a total or age-adjusted basis.

 

I think everyone, myself included, are worried about the knock-on effects of Covid policy (ie, long term damage to businesses, the economy, social cohesion, and ways of life). However, concern about the health effects of the Covid pathogen itself isn't really that high. You'll find that the people in the above paragraph generally follow day-to-day precautions like mask wearing. But my experience has been that compliance is more to avoid the headaches associated with non-compliance than out of any real fear of the pathogen itself. I know that personal disdain for restrictions runs deep among those groups, despite what directed corporate or political messaging might say (that messaging is put out to appease a mass market audience).

 

And - you can see this evidence of this everywhere. Look at how many notable people have been busted for privately violating the rules that they publicly advocated for. Plenty of cases in plenty of countries. Certainly well over half the people I speak to have disregarded the recommendations against international travel and gatherings in the past year (myself included when I flew to Thailand last December). Somewhat to my surprise, vaccine hesitancy has been higher among those groups than I would've thought.

 

It's actually solidly middle class folk who I've noticed have been the most frightened and compliant.

 

1 hour ago, Marvin Hagler said:

If you look at the outbreak globally by far the worst affected areas would be slums and low income regions. The more affluent the area then the less impacted they seem to be by Covid.

I totally agree with this, but I attribute it to different factors. My opinion is that the cause of this is structural. Ability to work from home, more spacious homes, private vehicles, better healthcare before and after falling sick, meet more sanitary people on average, and finally, when things are closed there's nothing to do and little reason for the relatively more affluent to go outside.

Each province's daily domestic COVID-19 cases update in Thailand on Sunday

Total: 9,521

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10158134476427050