23 minutes ago, anchadian said:

For those people who were hoping to register for the Moderna vaccine on the Bumrungrad website (http://bumrungrad.com/moderna-vaccination-registration…), I’m afraid you are already too late. According to

@RPOBB, it ran out in a matter of seconds. It would seem the odds of winning the lottery are better.

https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1414047670746836992

 

Does anyone remember a time when, for items that demand outstripped supply, you could still order and when supply became in stock, you would receive said item, just a bit later than those who ordered before you?    This system seemed to work quite well, yet seems to have been abandoned in the covid era.  

 

This new system requires people to be "Johnny on the spot" poised on the trigger for the few seconds its possible to obtain said item, and if you were a millisecond late, you then need to wait an unknown amount of time for the next unspecified date to try and bid again on the next unspecified amount of items and hope that not only are you "Johnny on the spot" again but the internet gods are smiling on you when you click the trigger.    

 

Sony did this with PS5s as well and its a great system for crashing websites, not so great at allowing people to buy the items.    

Edited July 11, 20214 yr by James105

23 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Let me try to save a few hundred posts:

 

There isn't enough testing. 

 

The real number of infections is much higher. 

 

I had COVID early last year, and it was just like the flu. No, I was never tested. 

 

The authorities are not handling the vaccination campaign well. 

 

Xxxx (fill in the blank with your favorite official's name) is a moron. 

 

Not enough Farangs are being vaccinated. 

 

Here's one more...

 

  Maybe it's an artefact.

 

 

People could be allowed to buy rapid test kits at a pharmacy as soon as this week. Which is good news if we can now test at home. However, according to Thai media, the price is expected to be ฿300-฿400 per kit. I’m told the black market price is half this. Some countries free.

https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1414052961861337089

ด่วน! ปลดล็อก 'Rapid Antigen Test' ตรวจ 'โควิด-19' ได้เอง ลดแออัด https://bangkokbiznews.com/news/detail/948257… #COVID19 #โควิด19 #โควิดวันนี้ #Thailand

39 minutes ago, James105 said:

Steroids, probably not, but staying fit and healthy most definitely will provide protection from the effects of covid.   The WHO specifically state that face masks should NOT be worn whilst exercising.  

 

This is from the WHO:

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public/myth-busters

I saw nothing about being fit but there was this (font theirs)

FACT: People of all ages can be infected by the COVID-19 virus

I would add my own. FACT: Believing one is invincible can raise your risk of COVID.

4 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Phuket Sandbox: Good idea, gone wrong

PHUKET: For Stefanie Korényi coming back to Thailand this week was the realisation of a dream years in coming and six months just in preparation. She arrived in Phuket on Tuesday (July 6) and 24 hours later she was forced to move from her booked hotel to an alternative local quarantine (ALQ) because someone else tested positive for COVID-19.

 

https://www.thephuketnews.com/phuket-sandbox-good-idea-gone-wrong-80641.php

I don’t have a huge amount of sympathy for people who have their holiday spoiled by Covid tbh. Although this lady seems to have been moving to Thailand?

 

I myself have had to cancel two 6 week long holidays to Europe due to Covid. I’m disappointed and the family both here and there are disappointed. Thousands have been in the same boat over the last 18 months. I think it’s pretty clear by now that if you travel internationally, you are taking a risk. Things may turn out ok, or they may not. That is just how things are at the moment.

 

this particular lady seems as though she is in Thailand for the long term, so she’s had a rocky first couple of weeks. But in the grand scheme of her new adventure in Thailand, it’s a very short period.

10 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

Even all those empty beds that danderman says exist will be getting used up soon.

So far, hospitals have been able to squeeze in a few thousand more patients every day. 

 

Yeah, I know, it's a big surprise for you. 

 

But, it's not sustainable..... 

I would bet money that it will be 20,000 in a few weeks. They have no pans for a shutdown, which is the only way to stop the progress. Look at Sydney over the last 2 weeks for a poor example of management and government interference.

1 minute ago, rabas said:

I saw nothing about being fit but there was this (font theirs)

FACT: People of all ages can be infected by the COVID-19 virus

I would add my own. FACT: Believing one is invincible can raise your risk of COVID.

That is indeed a fact.   Another fact is that obese people are more likely to suffer severe illness from covid than people who are not obese.    

 

The fact that I was referring to is this one (from the WHO website):

 

FACT: People should NOT wear masks while exercising  

People should NOT wear masks when exercising, as masks may reduce the ability to breathe comfortably.

Sweat can make the mask become wet more quickly which makes it difficult to breathe and promotes the growth of microorganisms. The important preventive measure during exercise is to maintain physical distance of at least one meter from others.

 

 How many cases of the virus in Chiang Mai it seems like the numbers not the real numbers are getting higher I live in Chiang Mai and still cannot receive a vaccination if I want to pay  great Roll out Performers here For foreigners TIT

12 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

That's funny... I supposedly was on their contact list for a "private" vaccine. Never heard peepers from them re any of that.

 

Same here. A friend alerted me to the new program late Thursday. Crickets from the hospital. Apparently Bumrungrad had held a FB live event about it earlier that day, but sseems to have said nothing to its actual long term customers.

3 minutes ago, James105 said:

That is indeed a fact.   Another fact is that obese people are more likely to suffer severe illness from covid than people who are not obese.    

 

The fact that I was referring to is this one (from the WHO website):

 

FACT: People should NOT wear masks while exercising  

People should NOT wear masks when exercising, as masks may reduce the ability to breathe comfortably.

Sweat can make the mask become wet more quickly which makes it difficult to breathe and promotes the growth of microorganisms. The important preventive measure during exercise is to maintain physical distance of at least one meter from others.

 

It’s a question of degree isn’t it?

 

if exercising while walking on the beach, a mask will make no difference to your ability to breath. Or walking on a treadmill.

 

if maxing out your heart rate at 180 bpm for an extended period, you will be reducing your air intake and perhaps find a mask to be an issue.

 

if running 10km, sweat will drench the mask and make it useless anyway.

 

some common sense is required with the application of this advice. We’re 18 months into the pandemic, we all know the issues by now.

 

the distance bit makes absolute sense to me, both theoretically and practically.

why people want to test if they do not have any simptoms i ask? will they be treated? no. will they get a vaccine? no. so why line up and waste your time getting a chance to get infected in the line?

 

i guess, just because testing is free

Edited July 11, 20214 yr by onthedarkside
off topic comment removed

3 hours ago, MasterBaker said:

 

why people want to test if they do not have any simptoms i ask? will they be treated? no. will they get a vaccine? no. so why line up and waste your time getting a chance to get infected in the line?

 

i guess, just because testing is free

People line up to be tested if they don’t have symptoms, because they may have been exposed to a high risk Covid contact or have been in a high risk Covid area.

 

there are frequently requests from the authorities for people who have been in a certain area, at a certain, to come forward for testing.

 

if positive, they can isolate.

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

Aside from the obvious those who feel they've been exposed or are sick, I also read that many new employers want to see negative covid proof before taking on staff

And then the next day............... ????????

19 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Bottom line. Personally if I had no symptoms or even mild symptoms I would not go and try to be tested.

 

I would self isolate(for the benefit of others) and monitor my situation.

 

Not comparing countries but if I was in Oz and had symptoms I would would present for testing.

Unfortunately I don't believe that many Thai would be in the situation to self Isolate, especially those living in Bangkok.

 

I would do the same however if it turns bad it would have been better to be in a hospital even one of those carbord ones. Do you think you will get help fast if you call ? I mean health system is over stretched. At home your at the mercy of covid.

 

So its a choice you make and calculate your risks.

3 hours ago, MasterBaker said:

 

why people want to test if they do not have any simptoms i ask? will they be treated? no. will they get a vaccine? no. so why line up and waste your time getting a chance to get infected in the line?

 

i guess, just because testing is free

No because if you know you have it you can make sure you don't infect others. You seem to have a really selfish mindset.

an isolated case that hopefully doesn’t become more prevalent 

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57761343

3 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

there are frequently requests from the authorities for people who have been in a certain area, at a certain, to come forward for testing.

Would you go along to a testing facility, queue up for hours to be tested if you had been in a certain area and requested (advised) to attend for testing? 

35 minutes ago, anchadian said:

For those people who were hoping to register for the Moderna vaccine on the Bumrungrad website (http://bumrungrad.com/moderna-vaccination-registration…), I’m afraid you are already too late. According to

@RPOBB, it ran out in a matter of seconds. It would seem the odds of winning the lottery are better.

https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1414047670746836992

 

I am bewildered as to why they are doing this lottery style registration. This morning they said they had over 2mil people trying to use the website yesterday and sorry for the delays. To a businessman that means $ are there to be made so why not make it easier to register and leave the system on 24/7 so a) it doesnt overload the website and b) you will get a good idea of how much vaccine to order. Mrs D believes they are being instructed by others she also said they were being prevented from advertising on TV.

 

Anyway at the moment its like trying to get through to the radio station to get your favourite top 40 song played - except we had to do that by dial phone.  

58 minutes ago, anchadian said:

And not forgetting Prawit, he could be sent to Switzerland his second home country.

Yea , but that's not exile , that's a reward.

I blame WHO for saying Thailand was second best in the world for coping with covid

 

It's no wonder they didn't order enough vaccines if they're being told they're already doing a great job

1 minute ago, DrJack54 said:

Would you go along to a testing facility, queue up for hours to be tested if you had been in a certain area and requested (advised) to attend for testing? 

Well, in Phuket I wouldn’t have to queue for hours. But in any case, in all honesty, I would not go for testing. I would self isolate at home the best that I could. My reasoning would be that I do not want to go to a field hospital, period.
 

Secondly, even if positive,  the authorities can do no more than have me isolate, EXCEPT that I would be a link in the test and trace chain. If I felt that there was a risk to others that I might have infected them, I would probably go for a test, provided that I didn’t have to queue. If I had to queue, test and trace is already overwhelmed, so my being tested would achieve nothing.

 

thirdly, this assumes that I remain asymptomatic. If I had symptoms that became uncomfortable, I would go to a private hospital for a test and treatment.

 

with regard to the people queueing in, I assume, Bangkok, if I were them, I would not queue for a test if asymptomatic. I would self isolate as best I could. If living in small accommodation with other, my best might not be very good, but it’s what I would do.

5 minutes ago, Zack61 said:

And then the next day............... ????????

Think about it a little before posting such a questions but let me guide you through it anyway.

 

For those that went there to get a negative test so they could get employment, they can now start to work and get some much needed money.

 

For those who went there and tested positive which would be a large proportion, if they have no symptoms they can now go into a community holding center, field hospital or home isolation.

 

For those who have symptoms and need care they can at least be put on the system so that as soon as a hospital bed is available they can get proper treatment and avoid serious complications or death at home.

 

Then of course all those who test positive now know they need to be very careful not to pass on the virus to friends, colleagues, family and especially the elderly.

 

Do you get it now or is that still confusing you?

30 minutes ago, James105 said:

That is indeed a fact.   Another fact is that obese people are more likely to suffer severe illness from covid than people who are not obese.    

 

The fact that I was referring to is this one (from the WHO website):

 

FACT: People should NOT wear masks while exercising  

People should NOT wear masks when exercising, as masks may reduce the ability to breathe comfortably.

Sweat can make the mask become wet more quickly which makes it difficult to breathe and promotes the growth of microorganisms. The important preventive measure during exercise is to maintain physical distance of at least one meter from others.

 

So let the 5% left survive since 95% of the world is vunerable is that your point?

 

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/06/150608081753.htm

 

Just one in 20 people worldwide (4·3%) had no health problems in 2013, with a third of the world's population (2·3 billion individuals) experiencing more than five ailments, according to a major new analysis from the Global Burden of Disease Study (GBD) 2013, published in The Lancet.

 

Moreover, the research shows that, worldwide, the proportion of lost years of healthy life (disability-adjusted life years; DALYS [1]) due to illness (rather than death) rose from around a fifth (21%) in 1990 to almost a third (31%) in 2013.

 

As the world's population grows, and the proportion of elderly people increases, the number of people living in suboptimum health is set to rise rapidly over coming decades, warn the authors.

15 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

an isolated case that hopefully doesn’t become more prevalent 

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57761343

They believe thats how the new and dangerous strain in Vietnam also happened because of the Alpha and Beta strain infecting the same person. Its been mentioned here a few times that all these Field hospitals and quarantine centers are a perfect breeding ground for this. 

BTS will adjust the schedule of skytrains and public buses in the metropolitan area to comply with a partial 14-day lockdown from Monday to contain the surging virus cases and deaths.

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40003088

1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

 

I'm not sure about the first given lack of beds available.

Most Thais live with their family members, some of them old, in a small place. Their choice is different than your choice; it’s between field hospital vs. putting their loved ones at risk, not between field hospital vs.  air-conditioned condo. 

58 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Rhetorical question I would surmise, right?

He is probably wondering why the un-infected are taking the risk of lining up at close quarters with those possibly infected.

 

Like many were saying last week:

"If you didnt have it before testing, youll soon have it after"

 

In my logic, knowing one has Covid is pretty much useless as far as recovery goes.

Its just brings the added risk that more people will get infected at the testing centres and spread it further to family members and anyone in close contact, as well as crowded buses, MRT etc

1 hour ago, Marvin Hagler said:

 

On a side noted I saw today a video post on Facebook of a large gym in Pattaya...the gym was packed and not a single person was wearing a mask. Wonder if steroids protects from Covid?

I just got back from playing badminton for two hours and no one on court was wearing a mask there either, though they were in the reception area. Simple reason is that you require a hell of a lot more oxygen when exercising heavily and with a mask you simply won't get enough, leaving your heart working way too hard.

1 minute ago, darksidedog said:

I just got back from playing badminton for two hours and no one on court was wearing a mask there either, though they were in the reception area. Simple reason is that you require a hell of a lot more oxygen when exercising heavily and with a mask you simply won't get enough, leaving your heart working way too hard.

In any case there is a net between you to stop the virus traveling to the other player, 5555