Good Samaritans stop Pattaya transwoman stealing from German

[richard_smith237]

48 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

One of the hospitals here. Med park. 

Your community that are looking need to look a bit farther. 

https://thailandintervac.com/

You implied it was in Pattaya!

I've been trying to win the Phayathai 2 Bangkok lottery all week. Stop your groundless insults!

 

Advice: Try to stop seeing every comment which is not in perfect agreement or sympathy with you as an insult, they are not. 

 

 

 

Have you successfully booked your vaccine at MedPark ??  - that is the solution you have been looking for. 

 

 

[MrJ2U]

40 minutes ago, orchis said:

I was on six waiting-lists/registrations.
June 12 I took the hint and I booked a ticket to get vaccinated overseas.

Hard if you have a family and young children.

They may close the borders soon as this is getting out of control.

 

I would fly home if I was single.

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, MrJ2U said:

Its scary.  It should never been like this.

We're lucky we live in a resort style house to wittle the days away in relative comfort.

 

Yeah but there is really no such thing as total isolation short of bubble suit. 

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Advice: Try to stop seeing every comment which is not in perfect agreement or sympathy with you as an insult, they are not. 

 

 

 

Have you successfully booked your vaccine at MedPark ??  - that is the solution you have been looking for. 

 

 

Have you stopped baiting me? You lost me with your post saying many expats complaining about access don't want vaccines and then your homophobic attack. Thanks for the info about Medpark though. Now -- goodbye. 

Edited July 15, 2021 by Jingthing

[richard_smith237]

10 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Have you stopped baiting me? You lost me with your post saying many expats complaining about access don't want vaccines and then your homophobic attack. Thanks for the info about Medpark though. Now -- goodbye. 

A homophobic attack ????....  Sorry fella, no such thing whatever you imagined or perceived. You were just being extremely childish and got called out. You really do enjoy playing the victim....

 

I didn’t say many expats complaining about access don’t want vaccines - I did say many seem to prefer to spend their time complaining instead of looking for solutions - it seems you may be one of those types of characters. 

 

 

How many ‘people' who have posted 100’s of times on these forums yet not called up one single hospitals to check about vaccines ??? 

 

How many hospitals did you call up?

 

 

There are people who dwell on problems and people who find solutions. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Solinvictus]

Sure there is all this bickering and back and forth. But! The bottom line is the governments do not provide healthcare for their populations. Don't be a fool.  Who on earth would contest that they should not? Shame on those who do.

Edited July 15, 2021 by Solinvictus

[Why Me]

I don't blame the Thai Govt. for putting their own people ahead of foreigners. That's their prerogative. But I do wish the US had shown a bit more responsibility to its (tax-paying) citizens located abroad. Plaudits to the French et al who didn't forget their people living elsewhere.

[Led Lolly Yellow Lolly]

Would you triage based on passports in the emergency room too?

[Led Lolly Yellow Lolly]

... maybe let foreigners suffocate first when the oxygen runs out.

[richard_smith237]

7 minutes ago, Solinvictus said:

Sure there is all this bickering and back and forth. But! The bottom line is the governments do no provide healthcare for all. Don't be a fool.  Who on earth would contest that they should not? Shame on those who do.

Its most definitely disagreeable that governments do not provide free healthcare for all. 

 

That said, Thailand is one of those governments which does provide free health care for all who are registered on the Thai system. 

 

The unfortunate part of this is that not all ‘foreigners’ who have moved here have registered with the Thai system, perhaps primarily because they have health insurance which secures private care or they pay for private care because they don’t want to use the government hospitals etc.

 

 

Ultimately, the government should make it much much easier to provide vaccines for anyone and everyone. 

 

There is no reason why the Mor Promp app cannot be quickly modified to accept passport numbers. 

 

But, we can’t change that. All we can do is research, call around, find solution the problem we face. Solutions are out there, but they may involve a little work or travel. 

 

Or... just come on this forum and moan about in an echo-chamber....  some prefer that !

 

[Why Me]

8 minutes ago, Led Lolly Yellow Lolly said:

Would you triage based on passports in the emergency room too?

I am talking jabs, old man. Emergency care is another issue altogether. That's a fundamental right. Jabs aren't.

Edited July 15, 2021 by Why Me

[wensiensheng]

3 hours ago, steven100 said:

every country will look after their own first ....  they will have processes in place that ensure their own receive a shot before any outsider does....  

and of course you have absolutely no proof of that. “Every country”, SMH.

[Led Lolly Yellow Lolly]

4 minutes ago, Why Me said:

I am talking jabs, old man. Emergency care is another issue altogether. That's a fundamental right. Jabs aren't.

See my comment here...

https://aseannow.com/topic/1216107-why-cant-the-embassy-vaccinate-british-people-in-thailand/?do=findComment&comment=16453807

[Why Me]

10 minutes ago, Led Lolly Yellow Lolly said:

See my comment here...

https://aseannow.com/topic/1216107-why-cant-the-embassy-vaccinate-british-people-in-thailand/?do=findComment&comment=16453807

Uninformed old man. There's no call for bilateral reciprocity. E.g., UK citizens can come to Thailand visa-free. Vice-versa no. Depends on the circumstances.

 

The US is flush with doses so it's jabbing one and all for free and gifting other nations.. If there was a shortage you betcha there would be howls of disapproval if citizens weren't first in line.

Edited July 15, 2021 by Why Me

[richard_smith237]

2 hours ago, sawadee1947 said:

11 hours ago, StayinThailand2much said:

Sad, but true.

 

How long will foreigners (except migrant workers from neighbouring countries, who are already getting vaccinated), living in Thailand, will have to wait? Until 2023 or 2024? 

Don't be so optimistic!????

 

My Burmese maids have already been vaccinated - I’m not sure how they arranged it... 

 

All these comments saying foreigners cannot get vaccinated are not correct. 

[EricTh]

6 hours ago, Neeranam said:

There are 2 distinct groups

1-those who don't want to integrate, learn the language etc, and have a self-entitled Colonial attitude. 

2- those who make an effort. 

 

The distribution of vaccines to foreigners is not based on whether one can or cannot speak Thai. You're still a foreigner to them even if you can speak Thai.

 

I spoke Thai to the officers in the vaccination booths but was told that only Thai citizens can get the vaccines first. This is in several places and not just one place. 

 

I even helped foreigners who can't speak Thai communicate with the people doing the registration.

 

As I have said, it's a loophole in the Morprom app of allowing people with pink cards through. 

 

 

Edited July 15, 2021 by EricTh

[wensiensheng]

1 hour ago, bbabythai said:

No offence intended but maybe its not your smartest decision. Daft to reject any brand of jab in my opinion, Why not get the sinovac 2 times and by the end of the year the American brands will be available for sure as your booster. 

 

I think you need to make better decisions based on the circumstances. A bit of forward thinking might help you

I think a bit of common sense would do you no harm my friend.

 

you see, I did some research before reaching my decision, not on vaccine efficacy, although surprise surprise that does get factored in, but on how Phuket has been managing its vaccination appointment system. Personal friends and threads on here revealed that sinovac is often offered, but AZ is offered when it’s available, which is quite often. And of course, I knew the Japanese donation was around the corner

 

and wouldn’t you know it, I have an appointment for 9am tomorrow at Saphan hin for an AZ. Another member of this forum is booked in at 1pm.

 

so my refusal to accept a vaccine which has low effectiveness against the prevalent strain in Thailand (delta) has turned out to be the correct decision. There is no need to blindly rush in to take anything offered if there is a reasonable possibility that something better will become available. After all, I am not in dire danger.

 

I guess no offense taken, but try not to lecture people on forward planning. It’s condescending given that everyone’s circumstances differ. 

[Jingthing]

Worth repeating this information as time is of the essence.

Another chance for expats over 60 and/or health conditions in Bangkok and those that can travel to Bangkok.

They take passports. They don't even want your Thai number even if you have it, ha ha.

UNFORTUNATELY, it might be Sinovac.

Book now for August.

Good luck. 

 

 

Covid19 Vaccine Expats - MedPark Hospital

 

 

Edited July 15, 2021 by Jingthing

[richard_smith237]

1 minute ago, EricTh said:

The distribution of vaccines to foreigners is not based on whether one can or cannot speak Thai.

 

I spoke Thai to the officers in the vaccination booths but was told that only Thai citizens can get the vaccines first. This is in several places and not just one place.

 

I even helped foreigners who can't speak Thai communicate with the people doing the registration.

 

As I have said, it's a loophole in the Moprom app of allowing people with pink cards through. 

 

You keep repeating that...  Call it a loophole if you want... Its a ‘loophole’ the Thai government are perfectly happy with and have no interest in closing.....

 

Give MedPark a try - you may be disappointed with their lack of rejection though. 

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, wensiensheng said:

I think a bit of common sense would do you no harm my friend.

 

you see, I did some research before reaching my decision, not on vaccine efficacy, although surprise surprise that does get factored in, but on how Phuket has been managing its vaccination appointment system. Personal friends and threads on here revealed that sinovac is often offered, but AZ is offered when it’s available, which is quite often. And of course, I knew the Japanese donation was around the corner

 

and wouldn’t you know it, I have an appointment for 9am tomorrow at Saphan hin for an AZ. Another member of this forum is booked in at 1pm.

 

so my refusal to accept a vaccine which has low effectiveness against the prevalent strain in Thailand (delta) has turned out to be the correct decision. There is no need to blindly rush in to take anything offered if there is a reasonable possibility that something better will become available. After all, I am not in dire danger.

 

I guess no offense taken, but try not to lecture people on forward planning. It’s condescending given that everyone’s circumstances differ. 

Well done, I had AZ a couple of weeks ago first shot in the morning, felt fine all day till I went to bed and had shivers, body aches and muscles hurting all night. Next day by the evening all gone and back to normal. 

 

Not all people get that of course but a friend I was with at the time also had the same. 

 

Well worth it though! At least I now have some protection against that nasty delta

[wensiensheng]

3 hours ago, herfiehandbag said:

Well, in fairness it has been stated twice, to me, by MoPH officials (you may have noticed that at every location where vaccinations are occuring there is one stationed to oversee things) that despite the medics wishing to vaccinate me because of my age and condition, I cannot be vaccinated because I am a foreigner. I would suggest that nationality/race has everything to do with it.

 

Meanwhile, vaccines are being gifted by foreign countries, and Thais living in foreign ("Western countries") are being included in the vaccination programmes. The Thai government has stated that foreigners will be included. it seems, to a large extent, that pledge is being broken.

 

Of course, the media message may have had a little more relevance if they had built the story around residents who actually live here (and pay taxes and so on} rather than people who are tourists who "regard it as their second home".

I think you misunderstand.

 

my comment “what has nationality got to do with it” was referencing the fact that any individual, no matter their nationality should receive a vaccination based on health risk, not their nationality. The virus does not recognize nationality, it only sees a host. Foreigners who get infected can pass on the virus to thai people. Foreigners who get severe symptoms have to be given health care by the thai health system. It makes sense to treat foreigners the same as Thai people in terms of vaccinations.

 

the point you make that, in practice Thailand is treating foreigners differently to their own citizens, is undoubtedly correct. It just wasn’t the point I was making. 
 

my fault, loose wording in my post.

[Solinvictus]

7 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

I think a bit of common sense would do you no harm my friend.

 

you see, I did some research before reaching my decision, not on vaccine efficacy, although surprise surprise that does get factored in, but on how Phuket has been managing its vaccination appointment system. Personal friends and threads on here revealed that sinovac is often offered, but AZ is offered when it’s available, which is quite often. And of course, I knew the Japanese donation was around the corner

 

and wouldn’t you know it, I have an appointment for 9am tomorrow at Saphan hin for an AZ. Another member of this forum is booked in at 1pm.

 

so my refusal to accept a vaccine which has low effectiveness against the prevalent strain in Thailand (delta) has turned out to be the correct decision. There is no need to blindly rush in to take anything offered if there is a reasonable possibility that something better will become available. After all, I am not in dire danger.

 

I guess no offense taken, but try not to lecture people on forward planning. It’s condescending given that everyone’s circumstances differ. 

Nice. You should support more socialist policies then.

[wensiensheng]

1 minute ago, Solinvictus said:

Nice. You should support more socialist policies then.

The significance of specific political ideologies in relation to my appointment for a vaccination, is lost on me I am afraid. 

[khunPer]

1 hour ago, dutchweller said:

Have you Tried to register for Moderna?
All the websites crashed for Registration and when they were back online all the allocation was gone in less than 2 Miniutes.

Besides that if you read carefully you will be Signing up for vaccination FROM October TO MAY 2022 EXPECT the latter date.
By the way Pay up front with NO refund and The Hospital reserves the Rite to Cancel it at any time!

It might be (much) faster to be patient and get the jabs offered by the government, if you can accept what is offered.

[Why Me]

From https://graphics.reuters.com/world-coronavirus-tracker-and-maps/countries-and-territories/thailand/

 

Thailand has administered at least 12,908,193 doses of COVID vaccines so far. Assuming every person needs 2 doses, that’s enough to have vaccinated about 9.3% of the country’s population.

 

The US is 60+% fully vaccinated, UK 50+%. So, give the Thais at 9.3% a break. They did fork up long ago not ensuring supplies. But they are doing the best they can now with crumbs from the table.

Full disclosure: I am signed up at PT2 for AZ and BumG for Moderna. 

 

Edited July 15, 2021 by Why Me

[khunPer]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

I have tried to register for it in Pattaya and failed. They only reserve a tiny supply so far.

 

But don't you get it? October is really too late for high risk people to wait even October is not a solid thing yet. It could be next year.

So wait for the vaccination offered by the government, it might be faster, if you can accept the vaccine offered. In other countries high risk people kind of self isolate and take necessary precautions, until they can be vaccinated or are safe in one-or-other way. Public health care for foreigners is not a fundamental right.

[Solinvictus]

7 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

The significance of specific political ideologies in relation to my appointment for a vaccination, is lost on me I am afraid. 

Really? With government provided healthcare you should have already received your services. Quite a significance indeed.

[Jingthing]

Just now, khunPer said:

So wait for the vaccination offered by the government, it might be faster, if you can accept the vaccine offered. In other countries high risk people kind of self isolate and take necessary precautions, until they can be vaccinated or are safe in one-or-other way. Public health care for foreigners is not a fundamental right.

You don't get it. Delta is here. No isolation is perfect. If you're not vaccinated it's not IF you will get infected, it's WHEN. Of course vaccinated people get infected too, but they have protection against severe case (but some vaccines are much better than others). 

 

I just booked for a jab tonight. So I won't be waiting until October or later for anything and I never intended to IF I could get anything earlier. 

[orchis]

1 hour ago, MrJ2U said:

Hard if you have a family and young children.

They may close the borders soon as this is getting out of control.

 

I would fly home if I was single.

understandable.

[Neeranam]

23 minutes ago, EricTh said:

The distribution of vaccines to foreigners is not based on whether one can or cannot speak Thai. You're still a foreigner to them even if you can speak Thai.

Foreigners who speak/read Thai are more likely to hear about places to get a vaccine; this was my point.