8 hours ago, steven100 said:

3 protesters and a megaphone speaker  ......   what could possibly go wrong  !!         lol

The camera cannot lie, eh Steven?

Arrested for protesting? Way to dispel the perception of Thailand as a banana republic.

A misleading troll post removed

On 7/17/2021 at 5:59 PM, placeholder said:

All the major western vaccines that have been approved for use have have consistently outperformed Coronavac against all variants. That's quite a coincidence.

Who knows.... According to the recent data from Israel we see that effectiveness of Pfizer is about 64% 
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-sees-drop-pfizer-vaccine-protection-against-infections-still-strong-2021-07-05/
50-65% is a common effectiveness of vaccines like Sinovac made with the classic inactivated virus technology. So I can't see any reason to wait for Pfizer instead of getting Sinovac right now.

59 minutes ago, friendofthai said:

Who knows.... According to the recent data from Israel we see that effectiveness of Pfizer is about 64% 
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-sees-drop-pfizer-vaccine-protection-against-infections-still-strong-2021-07-05/
50-65% is a common effectiveness of vaccines like Sinovac made with the classic inactivated virus technology. So I can't see any reason to wait for Pfizer instead of getting Sinovac right now.

First off that was effectiveness in stopping transmission of the infection. Since Pfizer has consistently outperformed Coronavac in that area, it's likely to be the same again for Coronavac. And as the article notes, Pfizer is 93% effective against serious illness and death. Also, as the article linked to below shows, epidemiologists are sceptical that number is correct for reasons explicated in the article

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israel-pfizer-vaccine-less-effective-preventing-delta-covid-variant-infection-1.9971842

And given that a British study showed that the Pfizer vaccine had an 88% effectiveness rate against the Delta variant, it's quite likely they're right.

 

And it's interesting, don't you think, after all that information from articles casting doubt on mRNA vaccines, China will now be importing them. And some Chinese companies are on the way to manufacturing them. I guess we can only assume, to judge from your previous comments, that the Chinese Govt is about to seriously endanger the health of its citizens rather than wait for 20 years to see how these mRNA vaccines work out. Disgraceful!

3 minutes ago, placeholder said:

And it's interesting, don't you think, after all that information from articles casting doubt on mRNA vaccines, China will now be importing them. And some Chinese companies are on the way to manufacturing them.

The United States is the undisputed world leader in the dissemination of information. Most social networks and news channels are from the US or controlled by the US. So the main vaccine from the US (mRNA based) in fact has become a too good advertised trademark. Many vaccine producers are thinking about using mRNA just to make use of already too good advertised trademark to boost sales.

21 minutes ago, friendofthai said:

The United States is the undisputed world leader in the dissemination of information. Most social networks and news channels are from the US or controlled by the US. So the main vaccine from the US (mRNA based) in fact has become a too good advertised trademark. Many vaccine producers are thinking about using mRNA just to make use of already too good advertised trademark to boost sales.

And to make matters worse, the People's Republic of China has fallen for the scam. The last best protector of humankind has failed. Woe is we!!! Every single last one of we!!! Alas, alas, alas...