500,000 doses of US-donated Pfizer vaccine to be given to Thailand’s frontline medics

[friendofthai]

At the times of alpha variant Pfizer had 95+% efficiency and it was very very hard to get it outside the western countries.
Now it is 39% efficient against delta (according to this - https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/23/delta-variant-pfizer-covid-vaccine-39percent-effective-in-israel-prevents-severe-illness.html )
Therefore it has become very easy to buy Pfizer now (or even get for free). Maybe because most customers think that Sinovac is a better choice with about 50% efficiency.

Edited July 26, 2021 by friendofthai

[riclag]

3 minutes ago, friendofthai said:

At the times of alpha variant Pfizer had 95+% efficiency and it was very very hard to get it outside the western countries.
Now it is 39% efficient against delta (according to this - https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/23/delta-variant-pfizer-covid-vaccine-39percent-effective-in-israel-prevents-severe-illness.html )
Therefore it has become very easy to buy now (or even get for free). Maybe because most customers think that Sinovac is a better choice with about 50% efficiency.

Look on the bright side of the story ! Geez !

 

"The two-dose vaccine still works very well in preventing people from getting seriously sick, demonstrating 88% effectiveness against hospitalization and 91% effectiveness against severe illness, according to the Israeli data".

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/23/delta-variant-pfizer-covid-vaccine-39percent-effective-in-israel-prevents-severe-illness.html 

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6 minutes ago, friendofthai said:

At the times of alpha variant Pfizer had 95+% efficiency and it was very very hard to get it outside the western countries.
Now it is 39% efficient against delta (according to this - https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/23/delta-variant-pfizer-covid-vaccine-39percent-effective-in-israel-prevents-severe-illness.html )
Therefore it has become very easy to buy Pfizer now (or even get for free). Maybe because most customers think that Sinovac is a better choice with about 50% efficiency.

Really? 50% effectiveness against the Delta variant? Stop making things up.

[RubbaJohnny]

2 hours ago, DrPhibes said:

Agree, but not up to the Thai government on the US ex-pats here.  That should have been a condition of the donation.  None of us US citizens here are happy on how our government, to whom we still have to pay taxes to no matter how long you live outside of the country, are being treated.

Well spotted , perhaps the those exhausted chasing formula nil RBBoy, Crystal Voyagers or watch wearing Olympic demonstration sports will pole vault teh queue.

 

I wish I had bought shares in that vile relabelling company now, if only I'd had teh bottle.

Great thing about a land of lies you know everything is fake so no need to spockulate.

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20 minutes ago, friendofthai said:

At the times of alpha variant Pfizer had 95+% efficiency and it was very very hard to get it outside the western countries.
Now it is 39% efficient against delta (according to this - https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/23/delta-variant-pfizer-covid-vaccine-39percent-effective-in-israel-prevents-severe-illness.html )
Therefore it has become very easy to buy Pfizer now (or even get for free). Maybe because most customers think that Sinovac is a better choice with about 50% efficiency.

Also, it's easy to get Pfizer? So, got any evidence of parties who have ordered it lately and gotten immediate delivery? Why do you keep on lying like this?

[Captor]

15 hours ago, Andyfez said:

Does treating Pfizer in this way indicate they consider this vaccine I'm a better standard than what they currently have?

What about the 200,000 doses supposed to go to foreigners? Will that go to a committee as well?

They will go to the army. The government don´t trust the Chinese stuff.

[Captor]

2 hours ago, placeholder said:

Really? 50% effectiveness against the Delta variant? Stop making things up.

More like 30%

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Just now, Captor said:

More like 30%

More like "who knows?"

[Captor]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

More like "who knows?"

Yeah, or that ????

 

[sucit]

16 hours ago, Thailand said:

I think it may be picked over by less worthy recipients before it makes the frontline.

That’s what plebs think. I think the smart money isn’t getting vaccinated, no matter what any of them say. 

[friendofthai]

2 hours ago, Captor said:

More like 30%

Today we see that Chilie’s 7-days average COVID cases = 1328. This is 1328 x 328/19 = 22 925 cases/day if Chilie had the same population as the US. But the US has about 51k cases per day. So the vaccine that is used in Chilie is about twice more effective than the vaccine used in the US. 
That is why the effectiveness of the Chinese vaccines can be estimated as about 60-70 against delta.

 

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5 hours ago, friendofthai said:

Today we see that Chilie’s 7-days average COVID cases = 1328. This is 1328 x 328/19 = 22 925 cases/day if Chilie had the same population as the US. But the US has about 51k cases per day. So the vaccine that is used in Chilie is about twice more effective than the vaccine used in the US. 
That is why the effectiveness of the Chinese vaccines can be estimated as about 60-70 against delta.

 

More obfuscation. The delta variant has just begun it's march in Chile.

 

Chile confirms first case of COVID-19 Delta variant

Chile confirmed the first case of the Delta variant of the virus that causes COVID-19 in the country on Thursday, after analyzing the test results from a Chilean patient who came from the United States, authorities said.

"We have officially confirmed the presence of a patient with the Delta variant, who came from the United States and entered through the Santiago airport," Chilean Minister of Health Enrique Paris said during a speech before the Chamber of Deputies.

The 43-year-old woman has been in quarantine since her arrival in the country, and the Delta variant "is much more contagious than others we have had so far," Paris explained.

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2021-06/25/c_1310026461.htm

[Scott]

Posting false or misleading information WILL earn a suspension.  

 

[friendofthai]

5 hours ago, placeholder said:

Chile confirmed the first case of the Delta variant of the virus that causes COVID-19 in the country on Thursday

To be completely correct, so called "delta variant" is the common name of at least 3 different viruses B.1.617.1, B.1.617.2, and B.1.617.3. But you will not see any separate statistics for B.1.617.1 or B.1.617.3 in most newspapers. Why? Because it does not worth efforts. That is why most news sources in the world did not show separate statistics for delta before June. They did show only general "COVID new cases". But since June it became clear to everyone that delta was much more dangerous and worth detecting.
Therefore the date of detection (Thursday, 06/24/2021) more likely reflects the date they start to perform tests for the delta variant rather than the date the delta variant first appeared in the country. It is hard to guess the real share of delta variant in most countries simply because they do not have science developed enough for it or ready-to-use test systems bought from abroad.
So I think additional time is needed for the Chinese Vaccines to demonstrate its superior effectiveness against delta.

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Just now, friendofthai said:

To be completely correct, so called "delta variant" is the common name of at least 3 different viruses B.1.617.1, B.1.617.2, and B.1.617.3. But you will not see any separate statistics for B.1.617.1 or B.1.617.3 in most newspapers. Why? Because it does not worth efforts. That is why most news sources in the world did not show separate statistics for delta before June. They did show only general "COVID new cases". But since June it became clear to everyone that delta was much more dangerous and worth detecting.
Therefore the date of detection (Thursday, 06/24/2021) more likely reflects the date they start to perform tests for the delta variant rather than the date the delta variant first appeared in the country. It is hard to guess the real share of delta variant in most countries simply because they do not have science developed enough for it or ready-to-use test systems bought from abroad.
So I think additional time is needed for the Chinese Vaccines to demonstrate its superior effectiveness against delta.

Chile has a very sophisticated public health system. And as was noted, they first detected the Delta in a foreign arrival on June 24. As for Sinovac needing time to demonstrate its superior performance against the Delta variant. it's already had time in population studies to demonstrate its inferior, but by no means ineffective, performance against other variants. What possible grounds beyond that of cheerleading do you have to believe that Sinovac will prove its superiority to other vaccines

Even the Chinese are now purchasing large quantities of mRNA vaccines and are working hard to create their own.

[mtls2005]

Thai Enquirer
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Earlier this morning, representatives from the Thai Healthcare Workers Network asked the US Embassy to assist in monitoring the distribution of the mRNA vaccine.

 

They said they are worried about the Thai government’s ambiguous mRNA vaccine distribution program.