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Immunocompromised US teacher stuck in Thailand without access to vaccine

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Just now, AndyFoxy said:

Some people (as the lady in the article) just aren’t happy unless they have something to complain about. 

While I agree with that, IMO a lot of it is people that expect other people to be responsible for them- ie they are expecting the nanny state to take care of them, even in other countries that are not nanny states.

Seems to me that a lot of people don't understand that in the end we have to be responsible for ourselves.

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  • Tons of people left Thailand the last 18 months but for some unexplained reason she couldn't? Not the full story here.

  • Then it's her choice... and she should stop blaming everybody around her and the country which has allowed her to be a guest... gods, another "karen" in the making...   btw: I left 3 days ag

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    It seems to me reading the article that, given her immuno-compromised condition, she does not want to travel unless she is fully vaccinated with US FDA approved vaccines.   From CDC website:

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Even in normal times, one of the last jobs I'd want if immuno-compromised would be a teacher in a developing country. 

42 minutes ago, SmartyMarty said:

I’ve survived cancer and now want to win the lottery but can’t, but I’m not whining about it.

If you have survived cancer you have already won the lottery !

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3 hours ago, webfact said:

“I would like to be able to come home and see my family in person and get a hug.”

This is Thailand.  I'm sure she could hire someone to give her all the hugs she wanted.

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A Teacher!  Has she not been keeping up with the vaccination program?  The roll out has begun, and if she has signed up on the offered sight, she might actually be able to get a choice if Pfizer, Moderna, or AstraZeneca  starting tomorrow.   How does she not know this?  These sights been up since before 01Aug and one gets a confirmation in mere minutes  for a free vaccine.   The vaccine  is finally  available to expats, but you have to apply, and by age alone she qualifies. 

21 minutes ago, mfd101 said:

Has she applied on expatvac for her first jab of Pfizer?

Do you have a link that confirms people signing up on expatvac will get Pfizer jab?

Just now, KeeTua said:

Do you have a link that confirms people signing up on expatvac will get Pfizer jab?

Of course not......

It's been nearly one year during which it has been possible to fly from Thailand to the U.S.A.

 

The ideal time to return was a few months ago. Now? Maybe best to steer clear of South Carolina?

 

This woman clearly qualifies for a government vaccine as she has at least one of the seven underlying conditions (Cancer).

 

She should be able to get AZ, maybe Pfizer, relatively easily, although I'm not sure where in Thailand she is based. The issue with AZ will be the 8/12/16 week wait between doses, and then the 2-4 week wait for full efficacy.

 

She should register at intervac, expatvac, nearest hospital. IMO, the Embassy should reach out subtly and assist this woman to get a vaccination.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

5 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

the Embassy should reach out subtly and assist this woman to get a vaccination.

The Embassy rarely reaches out to individual cases, except in case of incarceration they will send consular staff (or Red Cross rep) to visit and confirm the person has not been abused...other than that...parties to plan and that lawn (with private lake) at the Ambassador's residence doesn't take care of itself.

4 minutes ago, tonray said:

The Embassy rarely reaches out to individual cases,

 

I know that, I was expressing an opinion, an aspirational hope, something I would do were I in a position to help. And maybe, just maybe encourage someone else (NGO) to help.

 

 

Shame she, s not from Oz.Would,nt be allowed out to begin with! 

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2 hours ago, tonray said:

Since she is over 60 she can get Astra at any number of vaccination sites in Bangkok. She needs to get off her duff and stop whining about a situation she created for herself.

The article is reporting someone in remission from cancer looking for some help, do you have any compassion?

 

 

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5 minutes ago, NightSky said:

The article is reporting someone in remission from cancer looking for some help, do you have any compassion?

 

 

It's not about me....you are trolling now...the focus of this thread is about the story and the woman. Please stick to the topic and you'll be better off.

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48 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

While I agree with that, IMO a lot of it is people that expect other people to be responsible for them- ie they are expecting the nanny state to take care of them, even in other countries that are not nanny states.

Seems to me that a lot of people don't understand that in the end we have to be responsible for ourselves.

Totally agree 

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No shortage of critics who most likely have never spoken to this women. Plenty of scolds saying "she should have", when most likely they are not paying her way in life. Anyone have cancer and in a similar condition? Please speak up.

14 minutes ago, NightSky said:

The article is reporting someone in remission from cancer looking for some help, do you have any compassion?

 

 

I had cancer and no one I wasn't friends with had any compassion for me. Why are we supposed to have compassion for people just because they pop up on a forum thread?

The world has 8 billion + people and probably most of them could do with a bit of compassion, but many will never get any, IMO.

2 minutes ago, Benmart said:

No shortage of critics who most likely have never spoken to this women. Plenty of scolds saying "she should have", when most likely they are not paying her way in life. Anyone have cancer and in a similar condition? Please speak up.

Lots of people have or had cancer but didn't go on the media looking for attention. I had cancer, at the same time as I was posting on TVF, but I didn't post about it at the time.

 

"Eighteen months, the restrictions have eased up, but she does not have access to an FDA approved vaccine."

 

There are no FDA approved COVID-19 vaccines.

45 minutes ago, tonray said:

The Embassy rarely reaches out to individual cases, except in case of incarceration they will send consular staff (or Red Cross rep) to visit and confirm the person has not been abused...other than that...parties to plan and that lawn (with private lake) at the Ambassador's residence doesn't take care of itself.

1) The embassy reaches out to individual cases all the time.

 

2) The embassy never sends a "Red Cross rep" to check on American prisoners.

 

3) American Citizen Services staff do that job full time. The ambassador's protocol staff are completely separate.

 

4) The "private lake" at the ambassador's residence is a catchment klong for drainage, and can't be filled in without causing massive flooding during the rainy season. It is not particularly scenic, except from a distance. 

11 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

"Eighteen months, the restrictions have eased up, but she does not have access to an FDA approved vaccine."

 

There are no FDA approved COVID-19 vaccines.

Soon to come, soon to come. September at the earliest as I posted in a previous post.

First that better.be an old picture of her.  No mask and in a classroom.

 

As to vaccination there have been many alternative ways to get the vaccine.

Considering that the article is from an American newspaper I think that her family wants the taxpayers to lay on a flight for mom to come home.

Also as with a lot of more whine please people they did not do their homework.

 

As stated she can fly home anytime she wants, vaccines AZ have been available and gotten by a lot of people.  If she has medical team here they would be able to arrange it.

 

Can't she get Pfizer from MedPark over ExpatVac scheme?

3 hours ago, SmartyMarty said:

I’ve survived cancer and now want to win the lottery but can’t, but I’m not whining about it.

SmartyMarty, from experience once you have suffered  surgery, gruelling Chemo and a long wait to hear the doctor say" good news" the last thing you think of is winning the lottery

2 hours ago, NightSky said:

The article is reporting someone in remission from cancer looking for some help, do you have any compassion?

 

 

Very little compassion on this thread so far.
 

Lot of callousness though. 

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3 hours ago, SmartyMarty said:

I’ve survived cancer and now want to win the lottery but can’t, but I’m not whining about it.

Study: Cancer survivors, not just current patients, are at high risk of COVID-19 symptoms. [..], compared to those never diagnosed with cancer, long-term cancer survivors are at higher risk of developing severe symptoms from COVID-19. (emphasis theirs)

 

https://www.cancercenter.com/community/blog/2021/04/covid-cancer-survivors

 

OTH, scientists suggests not winning the lottery helps protect you from COVID.

 

Good for you not winning! Just don't get on a plane without a vax.

 

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Incompetence doesn't deserve compassion.

There are too many bad things happening to strangers I don't know. Are we supposed to feel compassion towards every stranger in the world?

I'll reserve my compassion to people I actually know.

Compassion without action is useless.

Lets see, Asking Senators for something that does not exist yet. Wait in Thailand as the Covid problem gets worse, then go to a crowed hospital with un tested people, to get the first of your Covid shots, wait again for the second.  All the while chancing getting it from everyone you come in contact with. Or go to a clinic, get tested, have someone drive to the airport, be on a plane with other tested people, in the US in 24 hrs, get tested again if she wishes, get a vacs the same day you arrive, be with her family.

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3 hours ago, gk10012001 said:

She can fly back to the USA.  Nothing prevents that.  No mandatory vaccination is required yet.  Negative test results are required before being allowed on the aircraft.

If I wished to fly back to UK (in the absence of any vaccines for this 78 year old without visiting the BKK Covid epicentre), how would I go about getting a (negative) test result?  Visit a hospital?  At Suvarnabumi?  Can one buy an air ticket without one?

3 minutes ago, mikebell said:

If I wished to fly back to UK (in the absence of any vaccines for this 78 year old without visiting the BKK Covid epicentre), how would I go about getting a (negative) test result?  Visit a hospital?  At Suvarnabumi?  Can one buy an air ticket without one?

Which non covid epicentre airport/flight do intend using? 

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