Popular Post Rookiescot Posted August 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2021 1 minute ago, placeholder said: What does a lot mean? Can you attach a percentage to that? I think there were 40 million tourists per year coming to Thailand before the advent of Covid. Can you attach a percentage of those 40 million who were here to see temples? I shall wager its a lot lower than those who arrived here not interested in temples. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, Rookiescot said: Can you attach a percentage of those 40 million who were here to see temples? I shall wager its a lot lower than those who arrived here not interested in temples. I gave evidence that the sex industry in Thailand is in decline. And I didn't assign any particular increase to one attraction. But the fact is that tourism had boomed in Thailand and the sex industry had declined before the advent of Covid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saakura Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Rookiescot said: Can you attach a percentage of those 40 million who were here to see temples? I shall wager its a lot lower than those who arrived here not interested in temples. Why not counter him by attaching verified statistics of the percentage that came for cheap sex? Edited August 19, 2021 by saakura 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ripstanley Posted August 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2021 I am very glad I live in an area where foreign tourists do not frequent. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookiescot Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, placeholder said: I gave evidence that the sex industry in Thailand is in decline. And I didn't assign any particular increase to one attraction. But the fact is that tourism had boomed in Thailand and the sex industry had declined before the advent of Covid. Yes there has been an influx of Chinese tourists. They arrive here on Chinese airlines. Stay in Chinese owned hotels. Go to Chinese owned attractions and eat at Chinese owned restaurants. So figures can be made to look like sex tourism is a thing of the past if you simply go by total numbers. Or are you suggesting western men are no longer as sexually active as they once were? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boogiewoogie Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 24 minutes ago, placeholder said: I think a legitimate concern would be fake vaccination certificates. Corruption in Russia is rampant and the population very averse to vaccination. Its will be a qr code certificate procedure. Which is harder to fake. Its like fake registration numbers. Looks legit but u gonna have troubles on a first checkpoint. Also state tv 24/7 showing how people gettin time for selling AND buying fake paper certificate(two types of them here). Also like 20 percent of russians have internation passports. Same as jabbed. Coincidence? I dont think so)) PS leave that bs vocabulary (rampant) fo cold era. Russia is different now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 1 minute ago, boogiewoogie said: PS leave that bs vocabulary (rampant) fo cold era. Russia is different now. https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2020/index/rus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, Rookiescot said: Yes there has been an influx of Chinese tourists. They arrive here on Chinese airlines. Stay in Chinese owned hotels. Go to Chinese owned attractions and eat at Chinese owned restaurants. So figures can be made to look like sex tourism is a thing of the past if you simply go by total numbers. Or are you suggesting western men are no longer as sexually active as they once were? I'm suggesting that with the relaxation of sexual mores in the West, there's much less need to patronize sex workers. Much easier to get it elsewhere and for free. I don't know where you come from, but in my neck of the woods, "free" was usually considered enticing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boogiewoogie Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, placeholder said: https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2020/index/rus Put it on a wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rookiescot Posted August 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2021 Just now, placeholder said: I'm suggesting that with the relaxation of sexual mores in the West, there's much less need to patronize sex workers. Much easier to get it elsewhere and for free. I don't know where you come from, but in my neck of the woods, "free" was usually considered enticing. Relaxation of sexual mores in the west? Did some countries miss the 60's then? Yes guys can get it for free in the west but only with something that is even uglier than they are. And that "free" in the west usually comes with the cost of dinner and drinks. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Rookiescot said: Relaxation of sexual mores in the west? Did some countries miss the 60's then? Yes guys can get it for free in the west but only with something that is even uglier than they are. And that "free" in the west usually comes with the cost of dinner and drinks. Stop spouting nonsense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, boogiewoogie said: Put it on a wall. Anybody out there care to explain what I'm guessing is an attempt at refutation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rookiescot Posted August 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2021 Just now, placeholder said: Stop spouting nonsense. Placeholder I always know when you have no logical argument left. You come out with a post like that. Do enjoy the rest of your evening though. 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boogiewoogie Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 1 minute ago, placeholder said: Anybody out there care to explain what I'm guessing is an attempt at refutation? Some bs rating agency living on donation? At least get some UN ratings. And also check it in progress. Like now and 20 year ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Just now, Rookiescot said: Placeholder I always know when you have no logical argument left. You come out with a post like that. Do enjoy the rest of your evening though. You assert that the sexual revolution only changed sexual mores for the unattractive and you accuse me of failing at logic? I thought it was clear how transparently absurd your contention is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 1 minute ago, boogiewoogie said: Some bs rating agency living on donation? At least get some UN ratings. And also check it in progress. Like now and 20 year ago. https://www.ganintegrity.com/portal/country-profiles/russia/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boogiewoogie Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, placeholder said: https://www.ganintegrity.com/portal/country-profiles/russia/ Where is UN corruption index? Enough with them democracy thinktanks. Powered by GAN? The ff is it? Gays Agaist Nigeria? What agency is that? I know how life was and see how it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Just now, boogiewoogie said: Where is UN corruption index? Enough with them democracy thinktanks. Powered by GAN? The ff is it? Gays Agaist Nigeria? What agency is that? I know how life was and see how it now. You've changed my thinking. How could I not trust the word of an anonymouos member of thaivisa.com? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amdesign Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 55 minutes ago, placeholder said: And it's clear you have absolutely no use of natural beauty which abounds not only in the parks and the sea, but generally in the Thai countryside. Natural beauty exists in almost any country. No point to come for this to Thailand, feeding the bureaucratic mafia and sitting in ridiculous quarantine. As to beauty of Thai countryside... now we are well aware of real Thai attitude to foreigners. Some learned that doing the 'quarantine jail' organized by greedy quarantine mafia. Others learned that lesson being kicked off Koh Larn multiple times. I doubt anyone will feel relaxed in Thailand after tourist murder in Phuket... Tourism and poverty do not stay together! Country where safety of tourists is not top priority should be banned from international tourism forever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJ2U Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Russian? You better have the bars open! They drink like fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Just now, Amdesign said: Natural beauty exists in almost any country. No point to come for this to Thailand, feeding the bureaucratic mafia and sitting in ridiculous quarantine. As to beauty of Thai countryside... now we are well aware of real Thai attitude to foreigners. Some learned that doing the 'quarantine jail' organized by greedy quarantine mafia. Others learned that lesson being kicked off Koh Larn multiple times. I doubt anyone will feel relaxed in Thailand after tourist murder in Phuket... Tourism and poverty do not stay together! Country where safety of tourists is not top priority should be banned from international tourism forever. Possibly you're confusing the real Thai attitude towards foreigners with the real Thai attitude towards yourself. And your citing of isolated incidents is just another sad example of cherry picking. Before Covid, Thailand had 40 million tourists in a year. How many were murdered? Are you one of those people who think that the fact that someone is a tourist should guarantee them absolute immunity from harm? I know there are lots of vaccine denialists who think that way. Apparently this disability of thinking has been spreading to other persons. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Amdesign Posted August 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, boogiewoogie said: I know how life was and see how it now. No need to convince him. They live in their own world driven by CNN ???? Corruption?? If we call it lobbying, it becomes legal in some countries ???? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Amdesign said: No need to convince him. They live in their own world driven by CNN ???? Corruption?? If we call it lobbying, it becomes legal in some countries ???? Fortunately, the Russian media are there to fearlessly expose any malfeasance on the part of the govt. https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2021/05/03/journalists-worldwide-urge-russia-to-stop-persecuting-independent-media-a73813 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Amdesign Posted August 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, placeholder said: Possibly you're confusing the real Thai attitude towards foreigners with the real Thai attitude towards yourself. And your citing of isolated incidents is just another sad example of cherry picking. Before Covid, Thailand had 40 million tourists in a year. How many were murdered? Are you one of those people who think that the fact that someone is a tourist should guarantee them absolute immunity from harm? I know there are lots of vaccine denialists who think that way. Apparently this disability of thinking has been spreading to other persons. I don't know what You mean 'real Thai attitude'. And I am not talking about absolute immunity. However, Thailand has always been unsafe for tourism, You can read warnings of embassies dated 2019 and back regarding motobikes, cars, boats, robbery, scam, diseases, etc. The government never tried to improve the situation... Come for cheap on Your own risk, but don't forget to pay for visas, extensions, re-entries! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod711 Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 1 hour ago, placeholder said: So people used to come to Thailand with the prospect that would have a blah time but at least it was cheap? The scenery, the beaches, the food, the art, the architecture were all irrelevant? Compared to the women they were. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amdesign Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, placeholder said: Fortunately, the Russian media are there to fearlessly expose any malfeasance on the part of the govt. https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2021/05/03/journalists-worldwide-urge-russia-to-stop-persecuting-independent-media-a73813 Meduza mentioned there is NOT Russian media, not sure about others. Meduza is based in Latvia and is not registered in Russian, it is a foreign agent and its crackdown is fully justified https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meduza And now tell me about censorship in Facebook, too ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Just now, Amdesign said: I don't know what You mean 'real Thai attitude'. And I am not talking about absolute immunity. However, Thailand has always been unsafe for tourism, You can read warnings of embassies dated 2019 and back regarding motobikes, cars, boats, robbery, scam, diseases, etc. The government never tried to improve the situation... Come for cheap on Your own risk, but don't forget to pay for visas, extensions, re-entries! You're the one who cited murder as a reason to be afraid. It's a middle income nation and it has its problems. But the fact that tourism was continuallly on the rise from western nations, not just the chinese, should tell us something. And the fact that despite the charges and other for obtaining visas, extensions, and re-entries must mean that on balance, those who must do so think the sacrifice is worth it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amdesign Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Just now, placeholder said: You're the one who cited murder as a reason to be afraid. It's a middle income nation and it has its problems. But the fact that tourism was continuallly on the rise from western nations, not just the chinese, should tell us something. And the fact that despite the charges and other for obtaining visas, extensions, and re-entries must mean that on balance, those who must do so think the sacrifice is worth it. OK, I got it! Now we know it is You who tells the 'calm sleep fairy-tales' to the government and TAT ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Amdesign said: Meduza mentioned there is NOT Russian media, not sure about others. Meduza is based in Latvia and is not registered in Russian, it is a foreign agent and its crackdown is fully justified https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meduza And now tell me about censorship in Facebook, too ???? Facebook isn't the govt. And DOXA is Meduza? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amdesign Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Just now, placeholder said: Facebook isn't the govt. And DOXA is Meduza? Never heard about DOXA. Very famous media, indeed ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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