cclub75 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, Aussieroaming said: The argument that the hospitalization rate and number of hospital related covid deaths is a better method of ascertaining covid rates would only be logical if every person that was covid possible was able to enter the hospital system and thus become a hospital based statistic. Of course the "positivity rate" shows that the something is wrong with thai numbers... Aka : not enough tests. But... again... if you have millions of "positive cases" but most of those "infected people"... are not sick... the famous "asymptomatics cases" (in the Covid newspeak)... then who cares ? Again, what matters is the number of people who are really sick, AKA who needs medical treatment (and i'm not talking about a paracetamol pill because "darling i have a little headache tonight"). Therefore, we should look at : -patients in hospital (not "hospitel", and not "at home") -patients in "serious conditions" -and among this group, the sub-group of patient with "ventilators" (ICUs, when you get there... your prognosis is really bad) The data are published each day (on various Twitter accounts). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 He's not a 'leading' doctor, he's just some dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya Spotter Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 I wonder what T-V username Dr. Thira is hiding behind ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surasak Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 4 hours ago, RichardColeman said: With the UK testing on average about 500,000 a day compared to less than 50,000 in Thailand, the chances are that the UK numbers are at least 10 times more accurate than Thailand's ! Underestimated or not. Be honest the whole worldometer is a bit of a joke, test more , find more, hence most of the world's most tested countries appear in the top 10 for covid positives ! Apart from China who nobody on the planet believe any data from Sorry to have to correct you on that last sentence. Thailand believes all data coming from china. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andycoops Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 A brave man indeed may he continue in his quest for the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QPRFC Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Give Sherlock a job at TAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malibukid Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 6 hours ago, Scrotobike said: Brave man - telling the truth! Watch out for the men in black.... or the men in brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJ2U Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Refreshing. People want to hear the truth. With on the demand news and social media the governments constant lying and manipulation cannot be hidden. Its as if these dinosaurs think they can pull the wool over the people's eyes. It would be funny if it wasn't so deadly serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadan Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 First person raising a voice. Amazing it took so long but better late than never. We will be in lockdown until February 2022 - kids won’t go to school either 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton9 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, Cadan said: First person raising a voice. Amazing it took so long but better late than never. We will be in lockdown until February 2022 - kids won’t go to school either There will probably be a mass exodus from Thailand if current restrictions won't be relaxed in the next few weeks. Many foreigners already left. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hockeybik Posted August 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 23, 2021 7 hours ago, buick said: i'm going to bet against his forecast. the death numbers will be below 100/day in october. death numbers can be hidden but they are far more reliable than cases. so the death numbers will be better, not the same or worse. the case numbers are meaningless due to the weak testing program. My wife and I had COVID back in June. I know because we had the test for the antibodies and they were positive. We just stayed home until we got better. We were not counted in the statistics. We are not the only ones. Thousands who had mild symptoms never got tested or counted. Many, maybe even the majority of those don't even realize they had COVID. Everyone is screaming for "more testing". How often should you test healthy people? Every day? Deaths, specifically excess deaths, numbers over and above the norm is the only useful metric. Positive test numbers are useless. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayhem11 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Yes death numbers are better stats than positive tests. Why death is final. Tests are a. 50/50 roll of the dice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gk10012001 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 8 hours ago, lolalol said: But when do you think 70% of the population will finally get vaccinated? It will never get to 70 % . The USA only got to 51 % fully vaccinatged according to the Television this morning. Thai people's desire or direction to be fully vaccinatged will wane with time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Agree wholeheartedly with the title, but most definitely NOT with his conclusion. It flies in the face of worldwide patterns and statistics. Time will tell soon enough if for some strange reason Thailand completely does something totally different than everywhere else in the world. At first I thought, wow! great! Somebody who has enough guts to speak the truth... then I read the article and found that he's just another fearmonger paying no attention to what's going on in the world with COVID! I'd be happy to admit I'm wrong here if there were some evidence pointing that direction or if in the end Thailand pulls off the miraculous non-recovery that should naturally be coming our way shortly, regardless of nonsensical efforts of lockdowns, masking, etc... There is an abundance of history to look at how this virus behaves, as there is with other corona viruses, but it seems that avoiding that is preferable to many and fear is more comfortable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 A post using an offensive trolling image has been removed. An off topic post about Texas has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveAustin Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 A leading Thai doctor with his finger on the pulse echos what many know and suspect, yet certain irrelevant ‘in-the-know’ expats and those with their nose up the army take official figures hook, line and sinker. Gawd, some people are thick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unblocktheplanet Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 9 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said: The truth shall set you free. Or likely not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieH Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Reported off topic post removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mut462 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) He’s going to end up in hospital saying things like that Edited August 23, 2021 by mut462 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernietravelling Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) The only doctors, I trust, are: Prof. John Ioannidis (most cited doctor in the world) Prof. Sucharit Bhakhdi (immunologist, retired and therefore independent), Dr. Mike Yeadon (former Pfizer vice president, now independent), Dr. Robert Malone (inventor of the mRNA technology) Forget all these publicity hungry TV doctors, trying to get publicity for new funding of their projects ! Edited August 23, 2021 by Bernietravelling 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJ2U Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 9 hours ago, Scrotobike said: Brave man - telling the truth! Watch out for the men in black.... .... Or be sued by the pretend "Health Minister". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitar God Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, BobinBKK said: Is he actually saying that Thais are lying to Thais along with the rest of the world? This surely can't be true... No, he’s not saying anyone is lying, he’s saying that cases are being underreported because people are doing their own tests and home and self-isolating rather then telling the government and being thrown in some crappy field hospital for two weeks because of it. The government can’t be expected to report what it doesn’t know. Bottom line-there are MORE people infected than are represented in the official daily figures so the actual infection rate is higher. Edited August 23, 2021 by Guitar God 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CartagenaWarlock Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 10 hours ago, Dmaxdan said: how many have been vaccinated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulikens Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 another day,another joysponge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtybirty Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Been here all the time. The more you test the more you will find Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 5 hours ago, rabas said: I think you have the wrong guy. Thira Woratanarat is an Associate Professor at Chulalongkorn and Analytical logician who graduated as a medical doctor. Can't think of better qualifications to challenge numbers from medical crises. Diplomate Board of Preventive Medicine, Thai Medical Council Postdoctoral Fellowship in Epidemiology, Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, USA Master of Medical Science (Clinical Epidemiology), University of Newcastle, Australia Diploma in Health Financial Management and Policy in Health Care, University of Newcastle, Australia Doctor of Medicine (1st Class Honor), Faculty of Medicine, Ramathibodi Hospital, Mahidol University Thailand Check out his publications on GoogleScholar. Maybe you right , I not recall the name only the photo . When Covid started he use to insist on hard lockdowns and was referred to as leading expert , I checked his history and he was a dietician 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeEboy Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Too many people with a vested financial want things open too fast. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chessman Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Guitar God said: Bottom line-there are MORE people infected than are represented in the official daily figures so the actual infection rate is higher. Indeed. as there are in EVERY country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarzan Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 17 hours ago, buick said: i'm going to bet against his forecast. the death numbers will be below 100/day in october. death numbers can be hidden but they are far more reliable than cases. so the death numbers will be better, not the same or worse. the case numbers are meaningless due to the weak testing program. I’m sure you will find a little corona crit in everyone, if you don’t just turn up the cycles until something shows up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leiftheswede Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 How many days until he gets looked up for criticising the government ?? Lex Majestic !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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