Booster jabs for those who got two Sinovac doses to begin in October or sooner – Anutin

[kiwikeith]

2 minutes ago, Gold Star said:

Vaccines need boosters. Same as a yearly flu booster. Israel vaccinated so quickly, protection waned as time progressed. This is a natural thing. They quickly found that those that those that had boosters were not ill. They started getting the booster program going, as well as the other things you mention. Seems they are doing all the right things.

I don't expect we will ever be rid of this, as it is impossible to have everyone on the planet agree and be on the same page. We will have to decide to just live with it at some point.

 

Or join  a jab, never in my life, have I taken a flue shot, but covid is a different animal.

But people may be psyched into believing a booster is needed, for an experimental vaccine without a history of time produced evidence of side effects. As of this time now (.9.44 pm eastern std time) there is no research on the matter of side effects over time, unless your name is GOD> 

[Gottfrid]

3 hours ago, Fairynuff said:

No, tell me again

 

4 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

I understand that they get vaccinated first, but we are talking about a booster jab here. That would be 3 - 0 to BKK against TRT (That Rural Team).

Do you understand that?

Done!

[thaitom]

4 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

 

Done!

HUH ?

[csmith]

From my perspective in Chiangmai ….. Thai Gov have been doing a good job getting 2 jabs (Pfizer) to older expats here.

….. at least providing the opportunity to those that want to take advantage of it.

 

Appreciated.

 

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[Gottfrid]

3 minutes ago, thaitom said:

HUH ?

Nothing to be surprised over. Fairynuff asked me to tell him again, so I just copied my post to do that. Hope he is happy now. 

[thaitom]

Just now, Gottfrid said:

Nothing to be surprised over. Fairynuff asked me to tell him again, so I just copied my post to do that. Hope he is happy now. 

Yes, understood

[DogNo1]

Where can I get my second AZ jab in Bangkok?  Bumrungrad and Bang Sue not offering any more and Thailandintervac is only giving out first jabs.

[joecoolfrog]

10 hours ago, kiwikeith said:

Well not fair really, as NZ is now in a decision making process worried about what will happen when they and Australia open at 70% population vaccinated. Denmark has opened.

Israel having breakouts and hospitals under strain, from re-infected vaccinated population , they were the first country to achieve a high percentage population vaccination rate.

NZ and Aussie talking of the 3rd Jab, because the efficacy of vaccines are dropping and NZ uses Pfizer, so Delta is reinfecting vaccinated people and know they do not know what will happen when they open up.

India has 97.5% recovery from Delta, and case numbers are on the decline - in the 30k mark now so compared to Thailand, Indias population ,over a billion and Thailand with 12/15k cases a day at 65 million population, thats pretty good news..

Natural herd immunity is happening.

 

That being said the political salesman are now at the x- road as they know vaccines are not going to stop reinfection and they are going to have to look at how they treat hospital cases, (using drugs!!! wow!!) which have been very low in NZ, with one death from Delta (a 99 yr old women) since the outbreak.

 

But a group called the 500 doctors have signed a letter, joining themselves together and saying your 10 times more likely to die from Delta if you dont get vaccinated.

This was on RNZ news today, the interviewer failed to ask who generated the letter that they signed or questioned their knowledge of future side effects or how they got the 10 times more likely to die figures from.

Because that's not happening in India or Denmark. India today news publishes their recovery rates and natural immunity development almost every day, Denmark has publicly said we can open and we can cope , we are confident our Hospitals can handle the opening of Denmark.

Meanwhile Joe Biden has fired the Blame Cannon at the unvaccinated saying that the USA is a Pandemic of the unvaccinated.

Well it seems a large majority of health experts concur that the double vaccinated have far less chance of getting seriously ill or dying from Covid.

You may disagree and feel the benefits of vaccination are outweighed by the short or long term risks.

Entirely your choice but its unfair to criticise Biden , his comments are backed up by USA statistics.

The majority of Americans being hospitalised and dying from Covid currently are unvaccinated.

[cncltd1973]

12 hours ago, crazykopite said:

Yet they still order this particular vaccine by the millions why ?

Bargain shopper fever? At $4 a pop they're giving it away - woohoo!

[cncltd1973]

13 hours ago, kiwikeith said:

Well not fair really, as NZ is now in a decision making process worried about what will happen when they and Australia open at 70% population vaccinated. Denmark has opened.

Israel having breakouts and hospitals under strain, from re-infected vaccinated population , they were the first country to achieve a high percentage population vaccination rate.

NZ and Aussie talking of the 3rd Jab, because the efficacy of vaccines are dropping and NZ uses Pfizer, so Delta is reinfecting vaccinated people and know they do not know what will happen when they open up.

India has 97.5% recovery from Delta, and case numbers are on the decline - in the 30k mark now so compared to Thailand, Indias population ,over a billion and Thailand with 12/15k cases a day at 65 million population, thats pretty good news..

Natural herd immunity is happening.

 

That being said the political salesman are now at the x- road as they know vaccines are not going to stop reinfection and they are going to have to look at how they treat hospital cases, (using drugs!!! wow!!) which have been very low in NZ, with one death from Delta (a 99 yr old women) since the outbreak.

 

But a group called the 500 doctors have signed a letter, joining themselves together and saying your 10 times more likely to die from Delta if you dont get vaccinated.

This was on RNZ news today, the interviewer failed to ask who generated the letter that they signed or questioned their knowledge of future side effects or how they got the 10 times more likely to die figures from.

Because that's not happening in India or Denmark. India today news publishes their recovery rates and natural immunity development almost every day, Denmark has publicly said we can open and we can cope , we are confident our Hospitals can handle the opening of Denmark.

Meanwhile Joe Biden has fired the Blame Cannon at the unvaccinated saying that the USA is a Pandemic of the unvaccinated.

Couple more Covid numbers: 78% of deaths were obese, 88% of deaths occur in obese countries. A lot of Americans that choose not to get vax'd happen to also be obese. It's an odd stereotype here in the US, but fat idiots tend to belong to one political party that more often shuns the vax for whatever reasons, so that's what were dealing with now, especially here in Florida (the Thailand of the West), it is a pandemic of the unvax'd but it doesn't affect the rest of us, business as usual here.

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14 hours ago, kiwikeith said:

But a group called the 500 doctors have signed a letter, joining themselves together and saying your 10 times more likely to die from Delta if you dont get vaccinated.

This was on RNZ news today, the interviewer failed to ask who generated the letter that they signed or questioned their knowledge of future side effects or how they got the 10 times more likely to die figures from.

Because that's not happening in India or Denmark. India today news publishes their recovery rates and natural immunity development almost every day, Denmark has publicly said we can open and we can cope , we are confident our Hospitals can handle the opening of Denmark.

Meanwhile Joe Biden has fired the Blame Cannon at the unvaccinated saying that the USA is a Pandemic of the unvaccinated.

Maybe Pennsylvania is part of the plot?

Pennsylvania releases new COVID-19 data on breakthrough cases

• 97 percent of COVID-19-related deaths were in unvaccinated or not fully vaccinated people. Among a total of 6,472 COVID-19-related deaths identified in Pennsylvania in 2021, the latest data shows 213, or 3 percent, post-vaccination deaths identified. Cumulative death incidence among the unvaccinated and not fully vaccinated was 7.9 times as high as the death incidence among the fully vaccinated.

https://www.wgal.com/article/pennsylvania-new-covid-data-breakthrough-cases/37618865#

 

Denmark can reopen because 74.2% of its population has been fully vaccinated and it has an excellent public health system.

What you failed to note about Israel is that it's vaccination rate stalled at about 60%.

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/israel

Thanks in large part to the ultraorthdox who devote their time to studying sacred texts that apparently tell them that vaccination is evil. They have an extremely high fertility rate and live at close quarters in a community that stresses the importance of communal activities.Still, lately, the rate of first inoculations have risen so there is hope for the future. And preliminary studies of boosters show that antibody levels rise sharply after the booster is delivered.

 https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/25/world/middleeast/israels-vaccine-data.html

[Stargeezr]

Hey fellow guests of Thailand.  Just a reminder.  The government does not seem to care about the elders

in Thailand, whether they are Thai or expat from some other country.  I guess they figure that the elders are

not working or moving around as much as the young crowd. I guess this is called Thai thinking.  For those who are 

lucky to have the money, or can get a 3rd shot, be happy that you are not in Afirca.  Just saying that there

are still some countries that are not as far ahead of the pandemic as Thailand.

Geezer

[DogNo1]

According to a doctor from UCSF Medical School,. it's not just people who are outwardly obese.  People who do not look fat can have a high amount of visceral fat.  The villain is Metabolic Syndrome which produces all of the dangerous conditions: hypertension, diabetes, pre-diabetes, fatty liver, etc.  

[Fairynuff]

On 9/16/2021 at 5:48 PM, Gottfrid said:

 

Done!

Nope, still don’t get it. Try again

[pedro01]

On 9/16/2021 at 4:38 PM, Gold Star said:

Vaccines need boosters. Same as a yearly flu booster. Israel vaccinated so quickly, protection waned as time progressed. This is a natural thing. They quickly found that those that those that had boosters were not ill. They started getting the booster program going, as well as the other things you mention. Seems they are doing all the right things.

I don't expect we will ever be rid of this, as it is impossible to have everyone on the planet agree and be on the same page. We will have to decide to just live with it at some point.

 

Plenty of vaccines don't need boosters. That's why those you have as a kid are just given once.

 

My dad in the uk is about to have a Pfizer booster just 6 months after his 2nd jab.

 

What an amazing money spinner for the Pharma companies.

[gearbox]

On 9/16/2021 at 3:32 AM, vandeventer said:

2 Sinovac vaccines and 1 Sinovac booster= how much protection and where can I travel to other than China?

It would be way better to get an AZ booster. Studies of boosting Sinovac with CanSino (Chinese vaccine similar to AZ) show much higher antibodies with CanSino booster shot than a third Sinovac.

 

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3148001/chinese-study-suggests-using-different-covid-19-vaccines-booster

 

"After two weeks, those given two shots and the CanSino booster were producing 78 times the number of antibodies that they were beforehand, compared with 15.2 times the level for those given a third Sinovac shot."

 

CanSino is not available in Thailand, but Thai studies with Sinovac + AZ booster show similar high levels of protection.

 

My gf has 2 Sinovac shots, I recommended to her to get AZ booster,  not Pfizer or Moderna.

[Gottfrid]

7 hours ago, Fairynuff said:

Nope, still don’t get it. Try again

I think it´s a waste of time.

[jacko45k]

7 hours ago, pedro01 said:

Plenty of vaccines don't need boosters. That's why those you have as a kid are just given once.

Is it perhaps because those vaccines are protecting kids from infections that in the main, develop in kids? 

[pedro01]

7 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Is it perhaps because those vaccines are protecting kids from infections that in the main, develop in kids? 

Nope.

[Sametboy2019]

Had two shots. Not having anymore. 

[pedro01]

40 minutes ago, Sametboy2019 said:

Had two shots. Not having anymore. 

Same here. It's all BS at this point.

[Hamus Yaigh]

The Thai govt already gave me two Sinovacs and I was thinking ahead of them a couple of months ago and booked my own Moderna booster. Think I would rather that than an AZ booster?

[Tony125]

The FDA-Registered KN95 Mask My Kid Is Using at School This Year

 

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/fda-registered-kn95-mask-kid-163200120.html

 

 

[Mickmouse1]

Bhutan and now Nepal donating Vacvine to Siam. Many people in the north of Thailand who received 1st jab went private as it is hard to get MOH vaccine.

[Tony125]

On 9/15/2021 at 7:30 PM, Karma80 said:

I had two Sinovac. No thanks to Thai administered AZ as a third. Could never travel anywhere with looming covid passports.

Foreign travelers with COVID-19 vaccines approved by FDA, WHO can enter the US in November

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/foreign-travelers-covid-19-vaccines-143813283.html

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On 9/16/2021 at 4:46 PM, kiwikeith said:

Or join  a jab, never in my life, have I taken a flue shot, but covid is a different animal.

But people may be psyched into believing a booster is needed, for an experimental vaccine without a history of time produced evidence of side effects. As of this time now (.9.44 pm eastern std time) there is no research on the matter of side effects over time, unless your name is GOD> 

Maybe because there's never been a case where a vaccine demonstrated such latency. On the other hand, we know that some viruses can cause latent and unfortunate effects including death. So, what would a rational person choose in light of this discrepancy?

[Tony125]

On 9/15/2021 at 7:30 PM, Karma80 said:

I had two Sinovac. No thanks to Thai administered AZ as a third. Could never travel anywhere with looming covid passports.

'Mix and match' Covid vaccine boosters are effective, NIH study finds

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/mix-and-match-covid-vaccine-boosters-are-effective-nih-study-finds/ar-AAPtGlt?li=BBnb7Kz

[Tony125]

Do coronavirus vaccines prevent transmission of the virus?

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/do-coronavirus-vaccines-prevent-transmission-of-the-virus/ar-AAPsEfu?li=BBnb7Kz