No CCSA decision yet on Bangkok reopening on Oct 15th, quarantine remains

[snoop1130]

Photo by Jack TAYLOR / AFP

 

Thailand’s Centre for COVID-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) has not yet made a decision on the reopening of Bangkok to fully vaccinated and COVID-19 negative international arrivals by October 15th, but mandatory quarantine will remain in place for visitors or returnees to the city, according to the CCSA today (Friday).

 

A proposal to reopen Thailand’s capital from October 15th, by the Tourism and Sports Ministry, has been submitted to a CCSA subcommittee, but any decision is pending discussions with the Ministry of Public Health and other relevant agencies, said CCSA Assistant Spokesperson Apisamai Srirangsan.

 

“This does not mean that we can’t proceed with the plans amid ongoing infections, but the public health system must be ready first, similar to the process for the ‘Phuket Sandbox’, for which the operations have been excellent. Doing a ‘sandbox’ scheme anywhere must be done carefully,” said Dr. Apisamai, who pointed to the large size and diversity of the capital.

 

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[cclub75]

Here we go.... It's reopening... without reopening.

 

We had quarantine before (14 days).... We will have quarantine after the "reopening"... If we are lucky... 7 days... In any case, it won't change anything.

 

Tourists (real) won't come. The high season is... dead.

 

I'm wondering how many millions destitute people they need, with all the associated social and political problems.... to understand that their way of thinking is a total deadend ?

 

We can live with Covid. The grotesque terror has to stop. Protect the real virus targets (old and fragile people) with vaccines... And let the vast majority of the population, not concerned by this virus, FREE and let them live normally.

 

[ukrules]

5 hours ago, cclub75 said:

I'm wondering how many millions destitute people they need, with all the associated social and political problems.... to understand that their way of thinking is a total deadend ?

They will never understand. It's very clear that the Thai response to COVID is following some kind of procedure dreamed up in China.

 

Where else do they have forced isolation in specially constructed slums for COVID patients, I'm referring to the COVID prisons of course.

 

China did this from day 1, Thailand copied. I just wonder who gave the order, I suspect it came from China.

[GrandPapillon]

2022, that's the earliest time possible

[alyx]

Don't you love it: left foot ignores what right hand is doing or is it left hand ignores right hand....sincerely here I am vouching for one phalange ignores what the next or previous (if any at all) is doing. In a couple of days we have got reports of opening on the 1st of October, then, out of careful consideration pushes it to 15th of October but...wait ...wait ....a certain top brass denied even the thought of it to....a couple of hours later say that the country has to open...but...wait...wait...the CCSA doesn't like to be by passed, so no opening until they say so...but...wait...wait...

Let me not deny it....I love it...it allows me to post and get some hearts and other kind of emoticons in the process ???? ...a win win situation or...

[Gottfrid]

Come on now guys! Is it 1 Oct, 15 Oct or 1 Nov? I am getting confused here.

[10baht]

11 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

mandatory quarantine will remain in place for visitors or returnees to the city, according to the CCSA today (Friday).

Does this include domestic fully vaccinated people , Thais and foreigners? Or just international travelers? Or just tourists? Not those with a retirement visa? Is this a translation problem?

[CANSIAM]

6 hours ago, GrandPapillon said:

2022, that's the earliest time possible

Exactly, the rest of 2021 should be used to get Thailand back in reasonable daily covid case shape and ramped up vaccinations, leave the damn 'tourist' word alone awhile yet........

[hotchilli]

12 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Thailand’s Centre for COVID-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) has not yet made a decision on the reopening of Bangkok to fully vaccinated and COVID-19 negative international arrivals by October 15th, but mandatory quarantine will remain in place for visitors or returnees to the city, according to the CCSA today (Friday)

Get the Thai population vaccinated 70%-80% double vaxxed then open up properly with no

restrictions.. stop playing games.

[hotchilli]

3 hours ago, alyx said:

Don't you love it: left foot ignores what right hand is doing or is it left hand ignores right hand....sincerely here I am vouching for one phalange ignores what the next or previous (if any at all) is doing. In a couple of days we have got reports of opening on the 1st of October, then, out of careful consideration pushes it to 15th of October but...wait ...wait ....a certain top brass denied even the thought of it to....a couple of hours later say that the country has to open...but...wait...wait...the CCSA doesn't like to be by passed, so no opening until they say so...but...wait...wait...

Let me not deny it....I love it...it allows me to post and get some hearts and other kind of emoticons in the process ???? ...a win win situation or...

Too many right handers.

[hotchilli]

3 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

Come on now guys! Is it 1 Oct, 15 Oct or 1 Nov? I am getting confused here.

Problem is you've got the tail trying to wag the dog,

TAT want one thing, the government say another and the health service chip-in too.

3 voices and no idea.

Fully vaccinate 70% + then open up with no quarantine.

[AussieinThaiJim]

It’s like a revolving door, TAT pushing one way, BMI Governor pushing the other with the foot of the CCSA stopping it!

 

why can’t they keep their mouths shut!

 

Vaccinations for 70-80% first

[Farangdk]

Come on Thailand.. People must adapt to this Chinese virus. People need to learn to live with this virus. The virus will be around for a long time, maybe forever. Open Thailand now. People need to start making money and get some food on the table, start to have a life, many lost their homes and living on the streets. There is only one way for Thailand and that is to open Thailand. Bring in the tourists/ people who have already been vaccinated and without any quarantine.  Get more and more Thais vaccinated in a hurry and test all the time and lot more. Right now, it is a joke and Thailand is more or less falling apart. And Thailand, please stop all your Mickey Mouse laws and regulations regarding expats and tourists.

[thailand49]

Back and forth the reason no matter how much they dream of their targets it never happens!  There are so many people in government like a box of chocolate each morning you don't know who you are going to get?  What we do know is more hot air out of these guys who haven't felt any of the pain their own population has felt.  Just yesterday Anutin said " who came up with this October 1st re-opening date?????

[Gottfrid]

54 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

Problem is you've got the tail trying to wag the dog,

TAT want one thing, the government say another and the health service chip-in too.

3 voices and no idea.

Fully vaccinate 70% + then open up with no quarantine.

Thanks for explaining the 3 different dates. Makes soo much more sense now. ????

Edited September 18, 2021 by Gottfrid

[sucit]

They need to just reopen. Very easy decision. You are facing virus concerns with or without people incoming from abroad. The country is already infested with covid. 

[khunjeff]

"Chiang Mai, Chon Buri (Pattaya), Prachuap Khiri Khan (Hua Hin) and Phetchaburi are set to reopen on October 1st, pending CCSA’s approval."

 

So that's 12 days away, and the CCSA hasn't even considered it yet? And therefore no one knows what the rules will be, such as how people would get to Chiang Mai in the absence of international flights. Exactly when do they think would be a good time to start thinking about this?

[raccos21]

Firstly, they should have vaccinated 80% of all the citizens before they plan to reopen the country.

Also, before they open it to the world, they should open the country to locals to see whether it has gone back to normal.

Besides, even if they open it now, who's gonna come?

Because many other countries are still struggling with the pandemic.

[shackleton]

Why don't the Government put their hands up and just say until all have received the vaccine Bangkok and the Concerned Provinces will remain closed until year end  to outside Country Tourists 

People then know what to plan for including  people outside Thailand 

Get rid of the paperwork and Quarantine measures for arrivals in The Kingdom for starters 

 

[bristolgeoff]

I reckon dec or jan is still  looking good  for us to return to thailand.So many are waiting

[paulikens]

as is the norm these days countries are run by medical officials and scientists.  

[BadSpottedDog]

Try to get the touted, monaclonal antibody infusions (one is Regeneron), to treat the infected, and this whole mess will be so much better. Recovered patients will then have natural antibodies. The US govt is now distributing it to all states, since vaccinated people are still getting very sick. The standard procedures are not working. Ventilators do a lot of damage.

https://combatcovid.hhs.gov/i-have-covid-19-now/monoclonal-antibodies-high-risk-covid-19-positive-patients

[Bobydog]

3 hours ago, hotchilli said:

Too many right handers.

They need to change hands at 50 ? ????

[howbri]

15 hours ago, cclub75 said:

Here we go.... It's reopening... without reopening.

 

We had quarantine before (14 days).... We will have quarantine after the "reopening"... If we are lucky... 7 days... In any case, it won't change anything.

 

Tourists (real) won't come. The high season is... dead.

 

I'm wondering how many millions destitute people they need, with all the associated social and political problems.... to understand that their way of thinking is a total deadend ?

 

We can live with Covid. The grotesque terror has to stop. Protect the real virus targets (old and fragile people) with vaccines... And let the vast majority of the population, not concerned by this virus, FREE and let them live normally.

 

EXACTLY CORRECT!!! A voice I seldom hear on this website that totally agrees with mine. Most people, especially farangs, want to close it up tighter than a drum forever to protect their fragile immune systems. That is a recipe for defeat!

[Bkktodd]

Everybody here is an expert so it seems ….most posters already in Thailand are saying keep it closed. Gracious of you.  Donate your pension checks to the starving Thais we so dearly love.  Whilst you enjoy your cheap beer maybe consider that the government will decide whatever… not you or I .  A reduced quarantine, or status quo..but definitely vaccinated only.  Protect the arrivals from the already infected locals should be a concern.  

[charmonman]

Why are they so afraid of fully vaccinated people when the majority of people currently in Thailand are walking around unvaccinated or partially vaccinated? Do they really think that as soon as they announce a new no quarantine policy that they will immediately have millions of tourists flooding in, especially with all the restrictions in place? These people clearly have no ability to think things through.

[scorecard]

4 hours ago, CANSIAM said:

Exactly, the rest of 2021 should be used to get Thailand back in reasonable daily covid case shape and ramped up vaccinations, leave the damn 'tourist' word alone awhile yet........

OK but what about the millions of Thais who are now in survival mode and their level of survival/desperation getting worse by the day?

 

[charmonman]

1 hour ago, raccos21 said:

Firstly, they should have vaccinated 80% of all the citizens before they plan to reopen the country.

Also, before they open it to the world, they should open the country to locals to see whether it has gone back to normal.

Besides, even if they open it now, who's gonna come?

Because many other countries are still struggling with the pandemic.

If vaccinating 80% of the population is a necessary condition for opening what is the harm in letting a group of people who are 100% vaccinated? Obviously they should make the unvaccinated do a quarantine just as they have been doing for the past year but if you are saying fully vaccinated people need to be quarantined as well are you not in effect saying that vaccinating people is pointless?

 

Fully vaccinated people are not the problem. Let them in - without quarantine.

[Walker88]

7 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

Come on now guys! Is it 1 Oct, 15 Oct or 1 Nov? I am getting confused here.

Before you narrow it down to month and date, best you get the year correct.

[joecoolfrog]

17 hours ago, cclub75 said:

Here we go.... It's reopening... without reopening.

 

We had quarantine before (14 days).... We will have quarantine after the "reopening"... If we are lucky... 7 days... In any case, it won't change anything.

 

Tourists (real) won't come. The high season is... dead.

 

I'm wondering how many millions destitute people they need, with all the associated social and political problems.... to understand that their way of thinking is a total deadend ?

 

We can live with Covid. The grotesque terror has to stop. Protect the real virus targets (old and fragile people) with vaccines... And let the vast majority of the population, not concerned by this virus, FREE and let them live normally.

 

The new variants such as Delta do not simply target the very old and fragile , that is the flaw in your argument.

There will be no complete ' opening up ' until 60-70 % of the population as a whole are fully vaccinated.

That im afraid is still a number of months down the line , perhaps if we are lucky early next year.