Health minister denies Thailand rejected 1m dose Pfizer vaccine donation offered by US

[snoop1130]

 

Public Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul has denied a report that Thailand failed to respond to a US government offer to donate an additional one million doses of the Pfizer mRNA vaccine to the country.

 

He explained today (Thursday) that there may have been a misunderstanding, saying that protocol dictates that the US State Department must inform the Thai Foreign Ministry, via the US embassy in Bangkok, about the donation and, to date, no such formal notification has been received.

 

He cited the donation of Pfizer vaccine to Thailand in August, saying that the US embassy had notified the Thai Foreign Ministry of the US’s wish to help Thailand in advance.

 

Full Story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/health-minister-denies-thailand-rejected-1m-dose-pfizer-vaccine-donation-offered-by-us/

 

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[Denim]

12 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

 that there may have been a misunderstanding,

 

Wouldn't be the first here and

certainly won't be the last.

[HaoleBoy]

Is this just Thailand doing what China wants and says?

 

Or is that too sophisticated a theory and the Thai Ministers just can't get their sh*t together and know what the left hand is doing. 

[Gold Star]

Nobody wants to be involved with him anymore.

[Bkk Brian]

All smoke and mirrors, this is whats been reported so far:

 

The US wants to send us 1 million Pfizer doses but can’t because Thai government hasn’t done paperwork

“[We have] a million doses that are waiting to go but Thailand has not finished the paperwork,” Duckworth said.

“I told the ambassador a month ago that it needs to be completed and they said they are going to go work on it…and in my position, it is very hard for me to go to the President and the national security agency and asked for more vaccines for Thailand when there is a million waiting that can’t be sent.”

Tammy said she had originally asked for the same amount for Indonesia and since there was no delay on documentation with them, Indonesia has now received more than eight million doses.

https://www.thaienquirer.com/33110/the-us-wants-to-send-us-1-million-pfizer-doses-but-cant-because-thai-government-hasnt-done-paperwork/

 

 

Video of Tammy Duckworth US Senator actually saying this

https://twitter.com/erich_parpart/status/1440937518233362432

 

 

Then this

Anutin accuses US senator of “fake news” over Pfizer delay

Public Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul Thursday refuted comments by US Senator Tammy Duckworth that the next batch of US Pfizer vaccine donated to Thailand is being held up by bureaucracy in Bangkok.

“From the discussion with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, it has been found that the ministry has yet to receive the diplomatic document from the US government about the extra vaccine support to Thailand, so the news is not real,” Anutin said.

https://www.thaienquirer.com/33122/anutin-accuses-us-senator-of-fake-news-over-pfizer-delay/

 

The people missing out here are those in Thailand who could have been double jabbed with the vaccine already

Edited September 23, 2021 by Bkk Brian

[Cherrytreeview]

42 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

All smoke and mirrors, this is whats been reported so far:

 

The US wants to send us 1 million Pfizer doses but can’t because Thai government hasn’t done paperwork

“[We have] a million doses that are waiting to go but Thailand has not finished the paperwork,” Duckworth said.

“I told the ambassador a month ago that it needs to be completed and they said they are going to go work on it…and in my position, it is very hard for me to go to the President and the national security agency and asked for more vaccines for Thailand when there is a million waiting that can’t be sent.”

Tammy said she had originally asked for the same amount for Indonesia and since there was no delay on documentation with them, Indonesia has now received more than eight million doses.

https://www.thaienquirer.com/33110/the-us-wants-to-send-us-1-million-pfizer-doses-but-cant-because-thai-government-hasnt-done-paperwork/

 

 

Video of Tammy Duckworth US Senator actually saying this

https://twitter.com/erich_parpart/status/1440937518233362432

 

 

Then this

Anutin accuses US senator of “fake news” over Pfizer delay

Public Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul Thursday refuted comments by US Senator Tammy Duckworth that the next batch of US Pfizer vaccine donated to Thailand is being held up by bureaucracy in Bangkok.

“From the discussion with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, it has been found that the ministry has yet to receive the diplomatic document from the US government about the extra vaccine support to Thailand, so the news is not real,” Anutin said.

https://www.thaienquirer.com/33122/anutin-accuses-us-senator-of-fake-news-over-pfizer-delay/

 

The people missing out here are those in Thailand who could have been double jabbed with the vaccine already

And on a slightly less serious issue, the nit picking bureaucracy that awaits returning 'tourists'.

[audaciousnomad]

China don't want to be upstaged by USA.  So "a nothing" says yessa massa.  I'll stall them massa.

[Artisi]

1 hour ago, HaoleBoy said:

Is this just Thailand doing what China wants and says?

 

Or is that too sophisticated a theory and the Thai Ministers just can't get their sh*t together and know what the left hand is doing. 

Either way it's still a screw-up.... 

[MrJ2U]

His department is run like the sloppy loathsome man he is.

 

Reports of Moderna having trouble contacting the Thai government over delays also.

[smedly]

go back to bricks and sand - were you even good at that

[Rampant Rabbit]

10 hours ago, HaoleBoy said:

what the left hand is doing

I  think we  both know what left and right are  doing although surprised they need  both with their tiny tadgers

[mrfill]

Did I read it properly? He denied the report because no report had been received and then confirmed that a report had been received.

[mtls2005]

Maybe this "minister" should stay in his lane? Construction preferably. Public health? preferably no. International diplomacy, definitively not.

 

And perhaps avoid insulting the only Bangkok-born, half-Thai U.S. Senator in history, and mucking up a 200+ year old relationship.

 

 

But he's what you get in a kakistocracy.

 

Honestly a monkey with darts and a dartboard could make better decisions.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[elgenon]

If you want to give us something you have to jump through the hoops we designate, which may or may not change at our whim. We are not some third world country that can you can just willy-nilly give things. We have big face. As Monty Python once said "We spit in your general direction". Oh my!

[klauskunkel]

The bureaucracy needs to expand to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy

Oscar Wilde

[hotchilli]

12 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

He explained today (Thursday) that there may have been a misunderstanding,

That old chestnut again....

[thailand49]

I would think the first donation made by the U.S. showed what an insult as to what China has been doing and giving since the pandemic. From my interaction with Thais they might feel the same no one unless they have a choice want the the useless stuff the leaders can't answer the call find the paperwork or complete it unless they have a bit of light and that isn't going to happen when they got their head up the butts of the CCP????

 

The goal has always been to monopoly with the use of AZ, accepting more would of Pfizer would only reduce the profit of making AZ, reason they didn't want to join Covax? in the beginning.

Edited September 24, 2021 by thailand49

[milesinnz]

If it had been a Gold watch, there would be no misunderstandings...

[Siameaze]

Donatkons don't give an opportunity to skim and USA companies try to stay seay from violating the Foreign Cprrupt Practices Act ( the part where a government official receives an "incentive")

[Joules]

"He explained today (Thursday) that there may have been a misunderstanding . . ."

 

Come on, this isn't a request to go to the beach.  Somebody is offering a free one mullion doses of the vaccine all Thais want, you jump on it and don't play the proper channels game.  These folks running the country must really think their citizens are stupid.  Everybody knows that every free dose of Pfizer takes backhander money right out of the pockets of these grifters.  Every day they delay is another day of Chinovac and Asstra Upyourinnica putting illicit money into the pockets of the these thugs.

[Bangkok Barry]

12 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

All smoke and mirrors, this is whats been reported so far:

 

The US wants to send us 1 million Pfizer doses but can’t because Thai government hasn’t done paperwork

“[We have] a million doses that are waiting to go but Thailand has not finished the paperwork,” Duckworth said.

“I told the ambassador a month ago that it needs to be completed and they said they are going to go work on it…and in my position, it is very hard for me to go to the President and the national security agency and asked for more vaccines for Thailand when there is a million waiting that can’t be sent.”

Tammy said she had originally asked for the same amount for Indonesia and since there was no delay on documentation with them, Indonesia has now received more than eight million doses.

https://www.thaienquirer.com/33110/the-us-wants-to-send-us-1-million-pfizer-doses-but-cant-because-thai-government-hasnt-done-paperwork/

 

 

Video of Tammy Duckworth US Senator actually saying this

https://twitter.com/erich_parpart/status/1440937518233362432

 

 

Then this

Anutin accuses US senator of “fake news” over Pfizer delay

Public Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul Thursday refuted comments by US Senator Tammy Duckworth that the next batch of US Pfizer vaccine donated to Thailand is being held up by bureaucracy in Bangkok.

“From the discussion with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, it has been found that the ministry has yet to receive the diplomatic document from the US government about the extra vaccine support to Thailand, so the news is not real,” Anutin said.

https://www.thaienquirer.com/33122/anutin-accuses-us-senator-of-fake-news-over-pfizer-delay/

 

The people missing out here are those in Thailand who could have been double jabbed with the vaccine already

Anutin still hasn't woken up to the 21st century and doesn't realise that 'misunderstandings' and denials can be shot down with a quick look at the internet. In the past, Thais would believe anything they are told without question, but those days are disappearing as social media spreads the word about the real world and not the fantasy one inhabited by politicians.

[newnative]

Maybe the weakest excuse since 'the dog ate my homework'.  Get it together already.

[JonnyF]

Incredible. Not only have they been unable to source life saving vaccines quickly, they can't even be bothered to fill in the paperwork when it's offered to them for free.

 

Meanwhile, hundreds die every day.

 

Shambolic and totally immoral. 

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

Anutin still hasn't woken up to the 21st century and doesn't realise that 'misunderstandings' and denials can be shot down with a quick look at the internet. In the past, Thais would believe anything they are told without question, but those days are disappearing as social media spreads the word about the real world and not the fantasy one inhabited by politicians.

TBH I'm still retching that these vaccines would have already saved lives and Anutin is batting around with the most feeble excuses, the US Embassy in Bangkok even mentioned the additional gift back on the 30th July in a press release.

 

"We are also proud to confirm that the United States will provide an additional one million vaccine doses to Thailand – on top of the doses that arrived today – for a total of 2.5 million doses.

 

Our vaccines do not come with strings attached. We are doing this with the singular objective of saving lives and with the full knowledge that none of us are safe until all of us are safe. As such, we are happy to hear the Royal Thai Government has committed to distributing these vaccines equitably to all residents of Thailand and to prioritizing those most at risk."

 

https://th.usembassy.gov/1-5-million-pfizer-vaccine-doses-donated-by-the-united-states-arrive-in-thailand/

 

 

 

[Boomer6969]

How do you collect "commissions" from a donation? 

 

T.I.T, hence any vaccine donation will put a dent into "some people's" income.

[actonion]

Any problems   in Thailand  just tell them its a misunderstanding  lol

[mikebell]

35 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

That old chestnut again....

'Misunderstanding?' It's the motto of Thai bureaucracy; do nothing until absolutely necessary.

[khunjeff]

Let's see. Tammy Duckworth has absolutely no incentive to lie, since this issue is of zero importance to her constituents. Anutin, on the other hand...

 

And just for laughs, let's pretend that the information from this expert in protocol and diplomacy is accurate. Why didn't the Thai ambassador just tell Duckworth "hey, for our internal purposes we kind of need a paper from your Embassy in Bangkok, would you mind providing that"? It would have been sent the next day. But more to the point, someone is publicly offering you a gift worth $30 million that your people desperately need. Why would you sit back and wait silently for the document you want, rather than immediately getting on the phone to the Embassy and asking "we really appreciate the offer, how can we get this done as quickly as possible?" 

[crazykopite]

Would not be surprised if the Chinese Regime were holding Thailand to ransom by instructing the, no to accept any US offers of help .

[actonion]

Misunderstanding because  no one could or  wanted to read English