9 minutes ago, Petey11 said:

I also noticed Chonburi stopped listing the number of tests carried out now too. They used to report contact and proactive numbers.

Taking a leaf out of Phuket's reporting style

2 hours ago, hackjam said:

Thats a steady decline for the past few weeks, so good news.

I have no issues with the 9pm curfew, and even if bars were open, would be no big deal, just head out early if needing a good skinfull.

With the numbers falling, surely they can give something-Massage and spas to fully operate, booze with outdoor dining, for example, sort of like a controlled opening, see how that goes???

Jomtiem was busy this weekend, lots of Thais came to the beach, was good to see places busy, most were just boozing on the roadside/back of pick up trucks, as the would do normally.

 

 

it does not matter if you have an issue with the curfew or not. It’s like saying, ahh — I don’t really care if I lose my ability to speak freely and protest. That may very well be true, but again, it don’t matter. This is Thailand though and they can do what they want. 
 

The Thais are worried about looking irresponsible on a world tourism stage in my opinion. There is no logical other reason to remained closed. Same with vaccine requirements for incoming travelers. No reason for them, there is covid already here. It’s all a dog and pony show, and all we can do is hope the lipstick comes off the pig sooner rather than later. 

Edited September 27, 20214 yr by sucit

Bangkok may reopen cinemas, gyms, spas – but no clubs or nightclubs

 

A decision is expected today on whether preschools, museums, massage joints and other businesses in Bangkok and other hard-hit provinces may reopen – though nightclubs and bars were not mentioned.

 

The COVID-19 task force this afternoon will consider 10 types of businesses, including cinemas, spas, tattoo shops, indoor gyms and museums in Bangkok and 28 other so-called dark red provinces may reopen months after they were shut to curb the spread of COVID-19.

 

https://coconuts.co/bangkok/news/bangkok-may-reopen-cinemas-gyms-spas-but-no-clubs-or-nightclubs/

3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Chonburi Public Health Office is reporting 587 new cases today and 6 deaths. Most new cases are in Chonburi City (218), Si Racha (136), and Bang Lamung/Pattaya (91). There are 11,862 patients in care 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1442273005262966795

 

Further details:

https://thepattayanews.com/2021/09/27/chonburi-new-and-confirmed-cases-of-covid-19-drop-to-587-with-6-new-deaths/

3 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Pray tell what they will do with a stockpile of 125 million doses of vaccine at the end of the year if as he has said before that the country will be 70% vaccinated by the end if the year.  Just what vaccines will be in the stockpile and will they all be given using the very new and still not officially approved intradermal injection method. 

 

Happy to see the numbers of cases and total deaths are decreasing, but it would be nice to know how many were actually tested.

 

 

They are getting ready for the need to supply booster 3rd jabs......and since many will be Sinovax, 4th ones too.

Today, the CCSA press briefing with the latest Covid-19 updates, including news about the expected easing of restrictions, has been scheduled for 2:00pm this afternoon

วันนี้ (27 ก.ย. 64) ศบค. แถลงข่าวเวลา 14.00 น. #Thailand

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1442358315636297729

 

So testing does work then............

 

Widespread testing cuts down Covid cases in Koh Tao

 

Conducting tests among residents has effectively eased the Covid-19 situation in Surat Thani’s Koh Tao island, provincial authorities said on Sunday.

 

The operation was launched when more than 100 Covid-19 cases were reported after the island opened to tourists on July 15 as part of the Samui Plus Model.

 

However, the authorities announced on Sunday that almost 98 per cent of the island’s population has been tested for Covid-19 and the infection rate is under control.

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40006701

The government said it would cut the curfew in 29 provinces from 9 pm - 4 am to 10 pm - 4 am, according to local news report. Fitness centers and restaurants with live bands can reopen.

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1442369140744884228

 

6 minutes ago, anchadian said:

restaurants with live band can reopen

And booze? 

Pretty well useless to have restaurant/bar with music and no alcohol.

 

 

PM Wants ATKs Available at Stores, Online

 

BANGKOK, Sept 27 (TNA) – Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha ordered the Public Health Ministry to make COVID-19 antigen test kits (ATKs) available at general and online stores and assigned the Government Pharmaceutical Organization to procure them for sales at low prices.

 

Government spokesman Thanakorn Wangboonkongchana said the prime minister wanted the Public Health Ministry and other concerned organizations to guarantee that general people and small-scaled business operators have adequate access to ATKs at reasonable prices.

 

In response, the board of the Food and Drug Administration resolved to allow general stores to sell legally supplied ATKs without having to register for the sales, in addition to ATKs available at drug stores with pharmacists.

 

https://tna.mcot.net/english-news-788921

27 minutes ago, anchadian said:

The government said it would cut the curfew in 29 provinces from 9 pm - 4 am to 10 pm - 4 am, according to local news report. Fitness centers and restaurants with live bands can reopen.

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1442369140744884228

 

New regulations expected to start on 1st October: Curfew from 10pm-4am No activities with more than 25 people in dark red zone, 50 in red zone and 100 in orange zone Restaurants can open until 9pm in dark red zone and 11pm in red zone. Alcohol cannot be sold

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1442374816380567554

 

Briefing has already started..

 

CCSA has approved extending the emergency decree until 30th November. Curfew to remain but hours will be shortened. Start from 10pm until 4am. This will be reviewed after 15 days. Expected to be approved by the Cabinet tomorrow and then published in the Royal Gazette #Thailand

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1442375799131181056

 

Edited September 27, 20214 yr by anchadian

5 minutes ago, anchadian said:

New regulations expected to start on 1st October: Curfew from 10pm-4am No activities with more than 25 people in dark red zone, 50 in red zone and 100 in orange zone Restaurants can open until 9pm in dark red zone and 11pm in red zone. Alcohol cannot be sold

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1442374816380567554

 

Briefing has already started..

 

CCSA has approved extending the emergency decree until 30th November. Curfew to remain but hours will be shortened. Start from 10pm until 4am. This will be reviewed after 15 days. Expected to be approved by the Cabinet tomorrow and then published in the Royal Gazette #Thailand

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1442375799131181056

 

[Breaking] The Thai government said it will cut the mandatory quarantine period for fully vaccinated from 14 days down to seven days. Changes will begin on October 1.

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1442377831556608008

 

1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

They are getting ready for the need to supply booster 3rd jabs......and since many will be Sinovax, 4th ones too.

I have not seen anywhere that says Sinovac is being used here in Thailand as a booster shot.  I did see an OP where starting October 1st that the primary vaccination would be done with Sinovac and then the second vaccination done with AZ.  That is on of the mixtures they have been using and one reason it would appear they have ordered sinovac in quantity.  However, I also saw an OP, but there has been no follow-up reports that stated they would be giving the AZ vaccine as a first jab and then the second would be Pfizer.  However as far as boosters go they are currently doing Pfizer from what another OP also indicated.  Still waiting to hear which vaccine they are currently using in a fractional dose for the intradermal vaccination given as a booster which they started to do in Phuket.  With the amount of Pfizer and Moderna they have ordered upI still have not heard of any of it arriving to be here other than anecdotal evidence of Moderna arriving this next month, supposedly, and the Pfizer that has arrived has been donated by the US, with J&J donated by France for it's citizens.  Interesting times ahead as how many of these vaccinations are of the original formula and how many have been adjusted to meet future variants like they do with  the annual Flu Vaccines.

Just now, ThailandRyan said:

I have not seen anywhere that says Sinovac is being used here in Thailand as a booster shot.

It was very much a tongue in cheek comment.

UPDATE:

@oc_ccsa relaxes some #COVID19 restrictions starting Oct 1 incl.

 

- more biz can open incl. cinemas, spas, tattoo parlors, museum, gyms, pools

 

https://twitter.com/SaksithCNA/status/1442377626056724487

 

3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

COVID-19 pandemic cut life expectancy by most since World War Two Read more >>> https://thaipbsworld.com/covid-19-pandemic-cut-life-expectancy-by-most-since-world-war-two/

Love to know how that was worked out, considering the average death age from covid in the UK was/is actually OVER normal life expectancy !!

46 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

So testing does work then............

 

Widespread testing cuts down Covid cases in Koh Tao

 

Conducting tests among residents has effectively eased the Covid-19 situation in Surat Thani’s Koh Tao island, provincial authorities said on Sunday.

 

The operation was launched when more than 100 Covid-19 cases were reported after the island opened to tourists on July 15 as part of the Samui Plus Model.

 

However, the authorities announced on Sunday that almost 98 per cent of the island’s population has been tested for Covid-19 and the infection rate is under control.

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40006701

Testing using what procedure PCR or ATK testing?, and obviously if it is being done via ATK testing it is not getting counted as a true case for publication as Covid, but noted as a possible case.  Are they continuing weekly with the testing of the population because there is no way that one and done will truly tell you that covid cases are under control.  Reminds me of a lady missing her monthly period, testing to see if she may be pregnant, finding she is not by the test and then 9 months later a baby surprisingly being born when she just thought she was getting fat.  You can't be just a little bit pregnant and you can not have Covid just a little bit without it spreading via asymptomatic folks or pre-symptomatic ones thinking they may have a just a cold that grows into a full blown case and then once they go to the hospital they find they have covid. Also reminds me of those people that have been vaccinated, tested negative prior to flying and being negative upon arrival here in quarantine, and then the next test shows they are positive.  The point I am trying to make here is that Thailand is being remiss with the reduction in testing in the entire country.  

Total doses yesterday - 175,926

 

https://twitter.com/NBTWORLDNews/status/1442381181257805831

 

9 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

It was very much a tongue in cheek comment.

Sorry I missed that one, must not have had enough coffee today.  Been reviewing Covid information since early trying to understand all of the breakthrough cases and the possible reasons surrounding them elsewhere, and the lack of follow-up here in Thailand on those breakthrough cases to see exactly what vaccines the folks had been vaccinated with.  Thailand needs to step up it's genomic sequencing and then post a breakdown of the individuals ages and the issues associated with the breakthrough cases.  Antibodies are an interesting issue as not everyone's immune system builds the antibodies in the same numbers.  Not sure if Thailand is following any groups of people from first vaccination through the second and then onward.  I know they have been doing their own trials of vaccines they are making, but unlike other countries I have yet to see anything posted in regards to ongoing studies.

28 minutes ago, anchadian said:

PM Wants ATKs Available at Stores, Online

 

BANGKOK, Sept 27 (TNA) – Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha ordered the Public Health Ministry to make COVID-19 antigen test kits (ATKs) available at general and online stores and assigned the Government Pharmaceutical Organization to procure them for sales at low prices.

 

Government spokesman Thanakorn Wangboonkongchana said the prime minister wanted the Public Health Ministry and other concerned organizations to guarantee that general people and small-scaled business operators have adequate access to ATKs at reasonable prices.

 

In response, the board of the Food and Drug Administration resolved to allow general stores to sell legally supplied ATKs without having to register for the sales, in addition to ATKs available at drug stores with pharmacists.

 

https://tna.mcot.net/english-news-788921

Still trying to understand the registration of the ATK tests and then how a positive test is reported and if the test at home was conducted properly and no cross contamination from another family member introduced.

23 minutes ago, anchadian said:

[Breaking] The Thai government said it will cut the mandatory quarantine period for fully vaccinated from 14 days down to seven days. Changes will begin on October 1.

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1442377831556608008

 

1st step in the right direction to allow tourism to resume, but is that the same for fully vaccinated, fractional vaccinated, and unvaccinated folks?  Yes unvaccinated folks will want to travel as well, or even those unable to get a vaccination due to medical waivers.

*From the 10,288 new cases:

 

- 9,180 were found via walk-in tests at medical facilities

- 1,096 via proactive tests at known clusters

- 12 imported cases

 

12,494 people have recovered in the past 24 hours #โควิด #โควิดวันนี้ #โควิด19 #โควิด19วันนี้ #Thailand #Covid19

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1442384893460168705

6 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

1st step in the right direction to allow tourism to resume, but is that the same for fully vaccinated, fractional vaccinated, and unvaccinated folks?  Yes unvaccinated folks will want to travel as well, or even those unable to get a vaccination due to medical waivers.

- with proof of full vaccination: min 7 days - without proof of full vaccination: min 10 (via air and sea), min 14 (via ground)

 

https://twitter.com/SaksithCNA/status/1442378993190129667

 

The 3rd wave had led to 1.54 million cases and 16,275 deaths since April 1 with a mortality rate of 1.05%.

 

There are 120,156 patients who are being treated at hospitals. Of that, 3,341 are in critical condition including 728 on ventilators.

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1442385253922865154

 

Of the 10,149 cases in the general Thai population, the highest numbers were 1,785 in Bangkok followed by 607 in Samut Prakan, 587 in Chonburi, 466 in Songkhla, 445 in Yala, 355 in Rayong, 305 in Pattani and 300 in Narathiwat.

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1442385949661356033

 

Today I discussed the "under the skin" reduced dose method of vaccination with my sister, an accomplished doctor from N. America.  She stated that this method makes little sense as the vaccine is designed to stimulate antibody production from manufacture inside muscle cells.  Under the skin is mainly fat and the required cells to initiate the antibody production are not so present.  She also stated that limited testing was most likely done using this method and that measurement of antibodies does not necessarily correlate to a healthy immune response against COVID.  Currently to my understanding this new "under the skin" method is only being used as a booster shot.  It is my strong opinion that before this method is used as a primary method of vaccination adequate testing must be done to insure proper immune response, not just the testing of antibody production.  With the projected surplus of vaccine in Thailand over the next several months it appears that the risks of undergoing this new method are not justified and I hope that the people in Thailand receive the proper amount of vaccine as is practiced around the rest of the world.

40 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

Love to know how that was worked out, considering the average death age from covid in the UK was/is actually OVER normal life expectancy !!

People dying younger drags the overall average down.

8 minutes ago, Broken Record said:

It is a poison that kills millions worldwide, causes people to act in an irrational way leading to all sorts of problems, crime, violence, road deaths, sexual assaults , child abuse, spousal abuse, a drain on Hospital and Police resources, I would think that's a good reason to have a total ban on Alcohol, not temporary restrictions.

 

And if wasn't for the fact that governments tax it so highly, it would certainly be banned.

 

Wow an abolitionist, Luddite, and prohibition believer all rolled into one, maybe also throw in cigarettes', soft drinks that cause obesity and then Covid would not be an issue as everyone's immune system except those with a medical problem would be top notch.  

2 minutes ago, edwinchester said:

People dying younger drags the overall average down.

Nonsense - the average death is OVER life expectancy. Below was from January 21 - ONS - it would be impossible for life expectancy to go down based on deaths above life expectancy !

 

Cumulative total of Weekly deaths by age band

Age Bands	Number of Deaths
<1	2
1-4	1
5-9	1
10-14	5
15-19	11
20-24	34
25-29	70
30-34	117
35-39	195
40-44	369
45-49	694
50-54	1,284
55-59	2,186
60-64	3,231
65-69	4,596
70-74	7,633
75-79	11,066
80-84	15,374
85-89	16,547
90+	17,404

47 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Testing using what procedure PCR or ATK testing?, and obviously if it is being done via ATK testing it is not getting counted as a true case for publication as Covid, but noted as a possible case.  Are they continuing weekly with the testing of the population because there is no way that one and done will truly tell you that covid cases are under control.  Reminds me of a lady missing her monthly period, testing to see if she may be pregnant, finding she is not by the test and then 9 months later a baby surprisingly being born when she just thought she was getting fat.  You can't be just a little bit pregnant and you can not have Covid just a little bit without it spreading via asymptomatic folks or pre-symptomatic ones thinking they may have a just a cold that grows into a full blown case and then once they go to the hospital they find they have covid. Also reminds me of those people that have been vaccinated, tested negative prior to flying and being negative upon arrival here in quarantine, and then the next test shows they are positive.  The point I am trying to make here is that Thailand is being remiss with the reduction in testing in the entire country.  

Agree although my opening comment to that was more to do with some posters yesterday saying that testing was a waste of time.