snoop1130 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 The Pattaya City Mayor has officially confirmed the city “reopening” to vaccinated foreign tourists delay to November 2021, which corresponds with an announcement made by the Center for Covid-19 Situation Administration, or CCSA, earlier today, September 27th, 2021. First, get caught up on the CCSA announcement which can be found by clicking here. We will not be detailing the opening proposal in this article, please reference this article for more information. The Pattaya City Mayor Sontaya Khunplome told The Pattaya News over the past weekend, “Multiple provinces have been delayed from October to November in regards to reopening to foreign tourism, including Chonburi.” Full Story: https://thepattayanews.com/2021/09/27/pattaya-mayor-confirms-city-reopening-to-vaccinated-foreign-tourists-delayed-to-november-cannot-guarantee-opening-of-entertainment-venues-soon/ -- © Copyright The Pattaya News 2021-09-27 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow ASEAN NOW on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 I thought the government was looking at opening entertainment places from mid Oct .... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sammieuk1 Posted September 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2021 Haven't been to Pattaya in 5 years but if it looks anything like Chiang Mai dose now the damage is cataclysmic and irreversible with nothing left to reopen just one big shed on steroids ???? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 The mayor added that he understood that some of the restrictions, like staying in SHA+ hotels only or having to stay in the same area for 7 days, would still be restrictive for some tourists. If there is to be no quarantine for fully vaccinated foreign tourists then what is the function of a SHA Hotel, surely that ends on 1st Nov also 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted September 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2021 Wonder what excuses he'll come up with when it all turns to <deleted> in November/ December? After all, people don't want to go to Pattaya for the night life, do they? People do spend thousands of $ to fly to Thailand just to eat in the restaurants and watch the beach vanish every time a rain shower happens, don't they? 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sezze Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 50 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: Wonder what excuses he'll come up with when it all turns to <deleted> in November/ December? After all, people don't want to go to Pattaya for the night life, do they? People do spend thousands of $ to fly to Thailand just to eat in the restaurants and watch the beach vanish every time a rain shower happens, don't they? You forget the magnificent temples Pattaya has got , or the exotic wildlife crawling around . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: Wonder what excuses he'll come up with when it all turns to <deleted> in November/ December? After all, people don't want to go to Pattaya for the night life, do they? People do spend thousands of $ to fly to Thailand just to eat in the restaurants and watch the beach vanish every time a rain shower happens, don't they? Now now..... November and December are the dry season, so there will be no beach vanishing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Just now, jacko45k said: Now now..... November and December are the dry season, so there will be no beach vanishing. Last year I lived in Pattaya I noticed there wasn't a "dry" season as such and it could rain any time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said: Last year I lived in Pattaya I noticed there wasn't a "dry" season as such and it could rain any time. Not my experience... although yes showers can come anytime, not the beach washers...... It is that time of year I need to put water in the pool, as opposed to pumping it down the street. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyril sneer Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 would be the same even if 100% were vaccinated 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerryd Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 What are the "SHA+" approved hotels and is there a list of them ? Would be helpful to the people outside the country that apparently have to stay at one and have to book it before they arrive. (And have to stay there for the first 2 weeks ? Even if they are fully vaccinated ?). I have 2 friends trying to come over for their usual winter holiday but they can't book tickets because they don't know when (if) they can travel, or where to stay when they get here. One booked tickets for the 3rd week of October and will have to change them now. The other is working out what kind of visa to get as the Embassy in Canada says the "Multi-Entry Tourist Visa" has been "suspended". (So he's going to have to get a Non-O if he wants to stay for 5-5 1/2 months.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 27 minutes ago, Kerryd said: What are the "SHA+" approved hotels and is there a list of them ? Would be helpful to the people outside the country that apparently have to stay at one and have to book it before they arrive. (And have to stay there for the first 2 weeks ? Even if they are fully vaccinated ?). I have 2 friends trying to come over for their usual winter holiday but they can't book tickets because they don't know when (if) they can travel, or where to stay when they get here. One booked tickets for the 3rd week of October and will have to change them now. The other is working out what kind of visa to get as the Embassy in Canada says the "Multi-Entry Tourist Visa" has been "suspended". (So he's going to have to get a Non-O if he wants to stay for 5-5 1/2 months.) I think you will find SHA+ only applies to Phuket under the sandbox rules, many people opted for the SHA+ as a way to get back into Thailand as you are not quarantined in your hotel for 24 hours a day for 14 days, under the SHA+ you could go out all day you just had to be back in your hotel at night. Lots of people used this method, Like a friend of mine came from Australia who has a house here where he stayed all day but went back to the hotel at night Here's a link https://www.shathailand.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kerryd Posted September 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, ChipButty said: I think you will find SHA+ only applies to Phuket under the sandbox rules, many people opted for the SHA+ as a way to get back into Thailand as you are not quarantined in your hotel for 24 hours a day for 14 days, under the SHA+ you could go out all day you just had to be back in your hotel at night. According to the linked article (and the article it links to), it's for all the areas being "re-opened". "Dr. Taweesilp also mentioned the reopening of pilot areas to international tourists under the “Sandbox” project that the project would be done gradually and Bangkok, Krabi, Phang Nga, Chonburi (Pattaya, Jomtien, Bang Saray) and Chiang Mai <snip>. Under the plan, vaccinated foreign tourists must stay in a zone for seven days, passing two Covid-19 tests via RT-PCR during this period. Once they pass this seven-day period they may travel throughout the country. Certain items, like COE (Certificate of Entry) from an embassy/consulate will stay for now but are likely to be reduced or eliminated when the Emergency Decree eventually is replaced by communicable disease laws.Tourists must stay at a SHA+ hotel, booked in advance, and not their own residence. They must take a Covid-19 test before flying to Thailand in addition to two tests here. They must also meet mandatory insurance requirements and keep a tracking application on their phones running at all times during their seven-day initial period." So, my friend needs: Book a flight (for 1 Nov or later) Negative Covid Test no more than 72 hours before his flight. Book an "SHA+" hotel for 7 days. A Certificate of Entry (from the Embassy 3,450 kms away) after the covid test. A Covid test on arrival (at own expense). Another covid test a week later (at own expense). And if all is well, he can then go to his apartment and do (whatever). Lol - of course there's a "breaking news" article just published that there won't be any quarantine period for fully vaccinated travellers as of 1 Nov. Which changes almost everything noted above. But wait, it's been an hour since that story broke. It has probably changed again already. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hioctane Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 12 minutes ago, Kerryd said: According to the linked article (and the article it links to), it's for all the areas being "re-opened". "Dr. Taweesilp also mentioned the reopening of pilot areas to international tourists under the “Sandbox” project that the project would be done gradually and Bangkok, Krabi, Phang Nga, Chonburi (Pattaya, Jomtien, Bang Saray) and Chiang Mai <snip>. Under the plan, vaccinated foreign tourists must stay in a zone for seven days, passing two Covid-19 tests via RT-PCR during this period. Once they pass this seven-day period they may travel throughout the country. Certain items, like COE (Certificate of Entry) from an embassy/consulate will stay for now but are likely to be reduced or eliminated when the Emergency Decree eventually is replaced by communicable disease laws.Tourists must stay at a SHA+ hotel, booked in advance, and not their own residence. They must take a Covid-19 test before flying to Thailand in addition to two tests here. They must also meet mandatory insurance requirements and keep a tracking application on their phones running at all times during their seven-day initial period." So, my friend needs: Book a flight (for 1 Nov or later) Negative Covid Test no more than 72 hours before his flight. Book an "SHA+" hotel for 7 days. A Certificate of Entry (from the Embassy 3,450 kms away) after the covid test. A Covid test on arrival (at own expense). Another covid test a week later (at own expense). And if all is well, he can then go to his apartment and do (whatever). Lol - of course there's a "breaking news" article just published that there won't be any quarantine period for fully vaccinated travellers as of 1 Nov. Which changes almost everything noted above. But wait, it's been an hour since that story broke. It has probably changed again already. The certificate of entry is applied at your local Thai embassy (online). The test is taken before the flight. You can hire agencies to do all the paperwork for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BangkokReady Posted September 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2021 11 hours ago, sammieuk1 said: Haven't been to Pattaya in 5 years but if it looks anything like Chiang Mai dose now the damage is cataclysmic and irreversible with nothing left to reopen just one big shed on steroids ???? How can anything be irreversible? These places didn't magically appear as fully built and stocked tourist destinations. If they were built up from nothing before, what is stopping them from being built up again? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 56 minutes ago, Kerryd said: According to the linked article (and the article it links to), it's for all the areas being "re-opened". "Dr. Taweesilp also mentioned the reopening of pilot areas to international tourists under the “Sandbox” project that the project would be done gradually and Bangkok, Krabi, Phang Nga, Chonburi (Pattaya, Jomtien, Bang Saray) and Chiang Mai <snip>. Under the plan, vaccinated foreign tourists must stay in a zone for seven days, passing two Covid-19 tests via RT-PCR during this period. Once they pass this seven-day period they may travel throughout the country. Certain items, like COE (Certificate of Entry) from an embassy/consulate will stay for now but are likely to be reduced or eliminated when the Emergency Decree eventually is replaced by communicable disease laws.Tourists must stay at a SHA+ hotel, booked in advance, and not their own residence. They must take a Covid-19 test before flying to Thailand in addition to two tests here. They must also meet mandatory insurance requirements and keep a tracking application on their phones running at all times during their seven-day initial period." So, my friend needs: Book a flight (for 1 Nov or later) Negative Covid Test no more than 72 hours before his flight. Book an "SHA+" hotel for 7 days. A Certificate of Entry (from the Embassy 3,450 kms away) after the covid test. A Covid test on arrival (at own expense). Another covid test a week later (at own expense). And if all is well, he can then go to his apartment and do (whatever). Lol - of course there's a "breaking news" article just published that there won't be any quarantine period for fully vaccinated travellers as of 1 Nov. Which changes almost everything noted above. But wait, it's been an hour since that story broke. It has probably changed again already. Assuming there is a SHA+ Sandbox arrangement in Pattaya, how long is the visitor confined to their room, how long confined to their hotel, are there bed checks in the hotel, apart from the requirements for PCR tests, what are the constraints? Can I simply sleep in my condo if I book a SHA+ hotel in Pattaya? Or do I need to be in my SHA+ hotel at some time every night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
engamann Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 13 hours ago, steven100 said: I thought the government was looking at opening entertainment places from mid Oct .... ? That was what your hero Cha Cha promised , but hey when did that man ever keep a promise that benefit the normal Thai people and not just his army friends and his master ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skorp13 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 The question i have is who do they think they are protecting? The un vaxxed from the vaxxed or the vaxxed from the unvaxxed??? makes no sense. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
engamann Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, engamann said: That was what your hero Cha Cha promised , but hey when did that man ever keep a promise that benefit the normal Thai people and not just his army friends and his master ? What's confusing you Steven100 ? Do you not remember your hero Cha Cha promised to open the country whit in 120 days and that would be 14 October or are your memory little bad ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Danderman123 said: Assuming there is a SHA+ Sandbox arrangement in Pattaya, how long is the visitor confined to their room, how long confined to their hotel, are there bed checks in the hotel, apart from the requirements for PCR tests, what are the constraints? Can I simply sleep in my condo if I book a SHA+ hotel in Pattaya? Or do I need to be in my SHA+ hotel at some time every night? You can spend all day there but you need to go back to your SHA+ hotel in the evening, there is still a curfew 9 pm, You have to hope you dont get a positive test you will be off to a quarantine prison camp at your expense bye the way 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 2 hours ago, BangkokReady said: How can anything be irreversible? These places didn't magically appear as fully built and stocked tourist destinations. If they were built up from nothing before, what is stopping them from being built up again? When your dead your dead "irreversible" nothing will be the same again???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokReady Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, sammieuk1 said: When your dead your dead "irreversible" nothing will be the same again???? They were "dead" before and became what they were pre-pandemic. There's nothing to stop them "coming to life" again. They began with nothing and grew to something. Being knocked back to nothing won't prevent them from becoming something again in the future. Your reasoning has no basis in reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 19 minutes ago, ChipButty said: You can spend all day there but you need to go back to your SHA+ hotel in the evening, there is still a curfew 9 pm, You have to hope you dont get a positive test you will be off to a quarantine prison camp at your expense bye the way So, on October 1, vaccinated visitors to Pattaya have 7 days of quarantine. On November 1, vaccinated visitors to Pattaya have 7 days of SHA+ requirements. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, BangkokReady said: How can anything be irreversible? These places didn't magically appear as fully built and stocked tourist destinations. If they were built up from nothing before, what is stopping them from being built up again? They were built up as demand increased. Times change and if on line booking becomes more popular than sitting on a bar stool being ignored while the bargirls look at their phones there won't be the same demand as before mobile phones were even invented. Edited September 28, 2021 by thaibeachlovers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 13 hours ago, sammieuk1 said: Haven't been to Pattaya in 5 years but if it looks anything like Chiang Mai dose now the damage is cataclysmic and irreversible with nothing left to reopen just one big shed on steroids ???? Correct. It's finished Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: They were built up as demand increased. Times change and if on line booking becomes more popular than sitting on a bar stool being ignored while the bargirls look at their phones there won't be the same demand as before mobile phones were even invented. That is only the view of people who do not live here. The supplanting if mobile phones for face-to-face meeting has been greatly exaggerated. Now due to covid it is more common but now the bars and clubs have closed most girls have left Pattaya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Just now, The Hammer2021 said: That is only the view of people who do not live here. The supplanting if mobile phones for face-to-face meeting has been greatly exaggerated. Now due to covid it is more common but now the bars and clubs have closed most girls have left Pattaya. LOL. I thought we were talking about the FUTURE. IMO the bar scene will be as dead as the Dodo once life returns to normal in two or three years time ( assuming variants E, F, G don't upset the proverbial apple cart ). In my opinion the bar scene as it used to be was pretty much over a few years ago. Too many bars, too few good looking girls, too little interest by the bar girls who spent more time looking at the phone that chatting up customers, too expensive for bar fines etc, and Pattaya just wasn't cheap anymore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunPer Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 "...cannot guarantee opening of entertainment venues soon" Of course not, the reopened Pattaya will be B.L.U.E...???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: LOL. I thought we were talking about the FUTURE. IMO the bar scene will be as dead as the Dodo once life returns to normal in two or three years time ( assuming variants E, F, G don't upset the proverbial apple cart ). In my opinion the bar scene as it used to be was pretty much over a few years ago. Too many bars, too few good looking girls, too little interest by the bar girls who spent more time looking at the phone that chatting up customers, too expensive for bar fines etc, and Pattaya just wasn't cheap anymore. Far too pessimistic....... good looking girls, well Pinups used to pack them in there.... and one or two of the other GGBs did too. Also they were not allowed to be on their phones but you got the expense of it right. The beer bars, well depends on management but yeah, often there they are on the phone ignoring you and want a drink to even stop messaging.... and those are overpriced too. The scene was moving towards Gentlemen's Clubs just before Covid. Prices are high, but a good time could be had, and will be again. Nowhere else was like it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthainess Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 I think this will turn into a $h!t storm, as usual as clear as mud, do you have to stay in a designated hotel ? how will they track people leaving Patts ? make it clear where you can go after 5 days. Me tinks organizing and controlling it is beyond the capabilities of those organizing it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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