bang saen guy Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 15 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said: All expat workers have their passports taken in the Middle East Not true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrPhibes Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 ..nnnnnnd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bang saen guy Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 17 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said: All expat workers have their passports taken in the Middle East Untrue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayinThailand2much Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, 1FinickyOne said: There are certain countries that might be suspect - think about it. I could figure it out quite easily, many upcountry Thai are not as worldly.. There are some destinations (e.g. Japan, Hong Kong), where it is difficult for Thai women to travel to, for obvious reasons, even though a pre-arranged visa is not required. No visit without lengthy Immigration interviews on arrival. Edited October 15, 2021 by StayinThailand2much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RafPinto Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 1 hour ago, DefaultName said: Sorry, but I don't believe this. 30 years ago, yes. 20 years ago, yes. 10 years ago, maybe. These days when they all have smartphones, no. They had to know what their job was going to be. Job title: "Happiness provider". I want you happy Sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RafPinto Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 1 hour ago, bangon04 said: and the family back in the village is in full denial of the facts....face wins over reality. They show off their new wealth from remittances to the neighbors who play along with the fantasy ..... Daughter is now General Manager of Hilltonn in Bahrain and can send 200,000 Baht evely mons 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RafPinto Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 57 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said: They are not scams. Some offer extras as well as a massage. Yes. Some offer a foot massage as an option. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1FinickyOne Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 42 minutes ago, StayinThailand2much said: There are some destinations (e.g. Japan, Hong Kong), where it is difficult for Thai women to travel to, for obvious reasons, even though a pre-arranged visa is not required. No visit without lengthy Immigration interviews on arrival. I would think most of the Western World... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 8 hours ago, spidermike007 said: Not that I am not sympathetic to the exploitation of women, which I am, but something smells fishy here. I have known alot of women who have gone to work massage in Dubai, Singapore, and elsewhere, and they all seem to know the only way to make real money is to offer sex services, of some kind or other. So, this sounds like more fake puritan nonsense, from the guys who consider themselves to be a pure as Patagonian snow. Such delusion. Such hubris. Such nonsense. You almost missed the victim blaming. (virtue signalling to follow) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caldera Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 10 hours ago, webfact said: Jiraphop said she had been part of a bigger gang who invited Thai women to go and work in Bahrain in the massage and spa industry. But on arrival they were forced into providing sex for money. Conned. If you say so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nahkit Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 And from a different prospective ... A relative of mine was asked to provide two qualified massage ladies for work in a ladies only massage spa in a muslim country. The people running the spa were personal friends, known to my relative for 10 years plus. The first two ladies recruited were fine, had no problems. Following this, my relative was asked if they could provide two more. Within a few weeks of arriving, the next two turned out to be a disaster, couldn't do the job they had been recruited for, which involved massage plus nail spa. They complained about their working conditions, accommodation and food to the point where the Thai embassy became involved. An embassy official investigated and said that their working conditions were amongst the best they'd ever seen for a Thai national. So what was the problem? The two ladies had gone out there thinking that the ladies only massage spa was just a front and now they were pee-ed off because they couldn't make any extras on top of the $800 per month they were receiving which included free accommodation in a villa with a swimming pool. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Hammer2021 Posted October 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2021 3 hours ago, steven100 said: The problem is they hold their passports and give them a job for 300,000 baht or whatever, and they take 5000 from their salary every month to pay back the 300,000 baht which can take several years. They won't give them their passport back until the money is paid, so many girls then offer the sex as it pays more and they try to pay off their boss/keeper sooner. They get caught up in a vicious circle of human sex trafficking. Not saying the amount are correct, but you get my drift ...... I knew dozens of Thai girls in Bahrain. They were all freelancers coming and going as they pleased. There was no need to entrap girls at all. You are making your story up. It's a typical NGO fantasy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mavi Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 as if they didn't do it without being conned hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 9 hours ago, The Hammer2021 said: I knew dozens of Thai girls in Bahrain. They were all freelancers coming and going as they pleased. There was no need to entrap girls at all. You are making your story up. It's a typical NGO fantasy didn't make my story up, I think it was on BBC or one of those networks a long time ago about enslaved women in some places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert got kinky Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 My wife recruited me as her personal masseur and now I'm enslaved in a sex-full marriage. Escape is not an option at this moment, though I do keep telling her where I am hiding my passport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthainess Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 16 hours ago, hotchilli said: Any female who travels to another country to work in the massage/spa business knows what's on the cards. You can warn them, and warn them, but they won't believe you, some are so stupid they believe everything the Agent tells them. I know one in Dubai now, the only message to her friend now is ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcpattaya Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 23 hours ago, webfact said: But on arrival they were forced into providing sex for money. I actually do not believe any word of this... All of these women are very aware of the fact that they are going to make a BOMB of money (for Thais) doing a hell of a lot more that "just massage"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew65 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 16 hours ago, steven100 said: was her cooking so bad No, that's not the point. Unlike us white folks, these people tend to be exploited when they go overseas to work. Small details like not being paid, having their passport taken off them, and being locked up and not being able to go out. I got a glimpse of this kind of thing when I worked in Saudi Arabia (at that time) where there's a kind of hierarchy according to where you come from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew65 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 19 hours ago, hotchilli said: Any female who travels to another country to work in the massage/spa business knows what's on the cards. Those kinds of businesses tend to have a lot of unsavoury characters involved in them, the same with illicit drugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew65 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 16 hours ago, bang saen guy said: Not true True in Saudi if you're on an 'igama' (work permit), but not on a business visa. I don't think they do in Oman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 18 minutes ago, Andrew65 said: Those kinds of businesses tend to have a lot of unsavoury characters involved in them, the same with illicit drugs. Same as Thailand, so why do they think going to another country to do the same is safe.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew65 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, hotchilli said: Same as Thailand, so why do they think going to another country to do the same is safe.... Very true. Also, in a foreign country they're much less likely to have a 'support-network' of family & friends, to catch them when they fall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bang saen guy Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Andrew65 said: True in Saudi if you're on an 'igama' (work permit), but not on a business visa. I don't think they do in Oman. The Middle East is a bit more than Saudi. Worked all over the area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 20 hours ago, The Hammer2021 said: I knew dozens of Thai girls in Bahrain. They were all freelancers coming and going as they pleased. There was no need to entrap girls at all. You are making your story up. It's a typical NGO fantasy only if you say so ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew65 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 8 hours ago, bang saen guy said: The Middle East is a bit more than Saudi. Worked all over the area I didn't know that. I've worked in Saudi, Bahrain, Oman, Iraq, Algeria. And there was me thinking that only Saudi was in the ME.???? Many people think that all of the ME is like Saudi, which it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bang saen guy Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 8 hours ago, Andrew65 said: I didn't know that. I've worked in Saudi, Bahrain, Oman, Iraq, Algeria. And there was me thinking that only Saudi was in the ME.???? Many people think that all of the ME is like Saudi, which it isn't. WOW. Is Algeria in the Middle East? Was not when I worked there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew65 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 On 10/17/2021 at 2:36 AM, bang saen guy said: WOW. Is Algeria in the Middle East? Was not when I worked there It's often talked about as if it is. It's part of MENA (Middle East/North Africa). It's also a majority Arab/Muslim country. Could probably say the same of Egypt and Libya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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