TAT predicts 18 million foreign tourists in 2022, spending 1 trillion baht

[Will B Good]

6 minutes ago, dlclark97 said:

Had that comment already to cut/paste.

Soz man.....555

[hotchilli]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

Enter Yutthasak Suphasorn of the TAT into the fray. He had a different version not just of the present but the fantastic future that would be Thai tourism.

Some version or vision?

[foreverlomsak]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

Best case was 18 million spending 1.05 trillion baht.

 

Worst case was 10 million spending 620 billion baht. 

Best case is 55,555 Baht per head (1,050,000,000,000 / 18,000,000)

Worst case is 62,000 Baht per head

[Buriramfelang]

4 hours ago, pitufikken said:

Why is it so important for TAT to come with all these predictions? It makes no sense!

Only Thailand is obsessed with talking up how much money, usually in trillions of baht, tourism will generate, which at the moment is all bs

[Box fighter]

 the A380 airbus carries 850 passengers not 500 I believe. 

[Will B Good]

1 minute ago, Box fighter said:

 the A380 airbus carries 850 passengers not 500 I believe. 

Imagine that....... Beijing to BKK........????

[dlclark97]

Just a guess but I don't think tourism will substantially recover until many restrictions/laws are changed or done away with.  Tourists want a destination that is more enjoyable and more entertaining than their homes.  They already have their upscale shopping malls so why spend a lot of money to go see another countries malls that possibly offer higher prices for similar goods they could buy at home.  The super rich tourists expected, have most likely worked, saved and invested to become that way.  They are smart with their money.  They will not put up with some insurance requirements needed to come to visit or live in Thailand.  For an older person the Thai companies 40,000/400,000 plan could cost well over 200,000 baht a year and there would most likely be exclusions for pre-existing conditions.  Why would anyone already with an international insurance company that covers accident or illness in Thailand even consider that?

[Concerned observer]

Who do we believe Thanet Supharothatrangsi (and all his members) who actually rely on tourists for a living, to employ their staff, satisfy their shareholders, etc. or Yutthasak Suphasorn of the TAT who has made so many false claims over the last 2 years and relies on his BS and lies being believed to keep his job? Isn't about time that Thailand slimmed down TAT from its 2,000 plus staff worldwide in tune with all the tour operators, hotels, tourist companies, massage shops, retailers, etc., that are their members and pay their wages through membership fees? There aren't any tourists coming - yet they all seem to hold on to their gravy train, overpaid jobs - despite not delivering? 

[Sticky Rice Balls]

sitting in my AQ hotel in bkk..wiped out after 30 hrs transit from DC-USA....singapore air--never again--some due sweated me hard at LAX over my PCR saying it was over 72 hrs old...went in on 14th for test and results arrived on 15th and I flew on 17th......was a hot mess to get here--waiting on my BKK PCR

[ThailandRyan]

19 hours ago, webfact said:

"That's 500 tourists on each flight," enthused Yutthasak.

 

Other airlines wanted to get into Krabi and Samui as well.

 

All this optimism led him to believe that the future was rosy.

 

November would see 100,000 foreign arrivals, he noted.

 

But next month through to March there would be 300,000 foreign tourists a month. 

 

Then he went into an almost misty eyed reverie about auspicious signs, notes ASEAN NOW.

 

"The early arrival of the cool season bodes well for the future of tourism," he claimed. 

 

Then came further predictions:

 

2022 - The total spending on domestic and foreign tourism would be 1.5 TRILLION baht or 50% of pre-pandemic levels in 2019.

 

This man has been inhaling the dentists nitrous oxide it would appear.  I just finished reading a story on AirAisia laying off folks and canceling flights as the new tourism is anything but far from rosy.  When will these asshats look at the reality of things.

Edited November 19, 2021 by metisdead
Over-sized emoji removed.

[ThailandRyan]

3 minutes ago, Sticky Rice Balls said:

sitting in my AQ hotel in bkk..wiped out after 30 hrs transit from DC-USA....singapore air--never again--some due sweated me hard at LAX over my PCR saying it was over 72 hrs old...went in on 14th for test and results arrived on 15th and I flew on 17th......was a hot mess to get here--waiting on my BKK PCR

Welcome back home SRB

[Millcx]

4 hours ago, fredscats said:

...and I predict its all bunkum

Bunking 5555555555 .. TAT are the biggest joke globally .. The moment they open their mouths the world laughs…. Thailand will be lucky to get 100,000 and half of them will be in transit to real countries like Vietnam Cambodia or Laos

[Golden Triangle]

3 hours ago, WEBBYB808 said:

They need to test them for STD'S  and not just COVID. Pattaya opened up 01 Nov and the number of STDs cases are climbing 

What ? Sorry you're gonna have to explain that bizarre statement,  also what part of Pattaya opened ? 

[madmitch]

How does this guy keep his job?

[GrandPapillon]

again they are assuming 2022 will be back to normal, but it won't ????

 

and with Thailand creating silly over-reacting policies, we can expect another full lockdown in 2022 with no tourists ????

 

[10baht]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

 

November would see 100,000 foreign arrivals, he noted.

Where is my BS spray, do the N95 masks work for this <deleted>?

[itsari]

I think TAT officials have there pharynx enlarged all day with there outlandish predictions 

[KhunMorris]

Children getting take from parents and put into field hospitals. So much so UNICEF had to speak out. Nope families won't come here. Only elderly sex tourists looking for cheap thrills.

 

More chance of Worgeordie getting a round in....

 

Time to revise your estimates Somchai.

 

Sincerely 

MORRIS

Olympic Bronze medal, LA 1984

Edited November 19, 2021 by KhunMorris

[Sticky Rice Balls]

8 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Welcome back home SRB

Dude it was hell....like the squid games..i may do a post after ive decompressed from it all

 

[eastendanto]

another load of old TAT...

[Will B Good]

1 minute ago, Sticky Rice Balls said:

Dude it was hell....like the squid games..i may do a post after ive decompressed from it all

 

OMG....you didn't see that stunning Korean model there did you???

[Sticky Rice Balls]

1 minute ago, Will B Good said:

OMG....you didn't see that stunning Korean model there did you???

She is a cutie....i will add there were many stunners on my singapore flight.....LAX too

[alphonse]

The Minister for Non-Tourism.

 

In the twenty odd years that I have been spending 3-4 months  in what used to qualify as the "Land of Smiles" Thailand has turned FULL circle. Initially I came for a bit of work, now I'm a sun seeking  tourist who is not particularly hard up. Not particularly into sleeze (a bit) and not a drunkard of more than moderate+ levels.

 

I remember the Baht in the 90s for £1 and the cost of a bottle of Singha usually around 60-65 in most bars. I couldn't quite believe it!

 

Gradually, and for various reasons, exchange rates didn't just become less favourable they were turned on their head. It was all still acceptable though (just) until airport taxi drivers started blatantly asking, "How much you give me?" with the meter off. Dual pricing and rip-offs became more rife, and you had to watch your 'bin' because the 'chit' was often exaggerated.

 

I could go on. No room on this forum.

 

Then we had the military, police rip-offs of tourist in the street (ciggy-butt police) and more and more restrictions which meant you could no longer, for example, watch the sunrise beside a Sukhumvit caravan bar after a few hours of gentle sipping and marvellous company.  

 

The Land of Smiles became the Land of the Puritans.

 

Now, whilst all around them open up they are still on the make, delude themselves that they are a special case and still think that it is they doing the customer (tourist) a favour rather than the other way around.

 

The penny will not drop. Times have changed forever.

[itsari]

19 minutes ago, Concerned observer said:

Who do we believe Thanet Supharothatrangsi (and all his members) who actually rely on tourists for a living, to employ their staff, satisfy their shareholders, etc. or Yutthasak Suphasorn of the TAT who has made so many false claims over the last 2 years and relies on his BS and lies being believed to keep his job? Isn't about time that Thailand slimmed down TAT from its 2,000 plus staff worldwide in tune with all the tour operators, hotels, tourist companies, massage shops, retailers, etc., that are their members and pay their wages through membership fees? There aren't any tourists coming - yet they all seem to hold on to their gravy train, overpaid jobs - despite not delivering? 

Employment costs for TAT must be high for the Thai tax payers with virtually no tourists . Not forgetting the  advertising campaigns that truly are a waste of money 

[WEBBYB808]

6 minutes ago, Golden Triangle said:

What ? Sorry you're gonna have to explain that bizarre statement,  also what part of Pattaya opened ? 

Everything  except  the bars, or selling alcohol in restaurants. right, no what is meant is that many expats have returned,  and the number of people in Pattaya has grown a lot.  As the media has. Stated 200k in October,  on certain sois, Not Soi 6 thanks to Covid and the NW monopoly,  but soi Honey, Buakow,  Pattaya Klang, Beach road.. and more actually  het lots of foot traffic.   Maybe not what it once was and many places are still closed, or torn down like Soi Made in Thailand,  but there is a lot of life here now.  Car rentals, bars posing as restaurants.   Things are open and the population has grown.  

[Will B Good]

1 minute ago, Sticky Rice Balls said:

She is a cutie....i will add there were many stunners on my singapore flight.....LAX too

I find these masks a real killer......those asiatic eyes.....they all look like a million dollars........ I have to resist the temptation to ask 'can you slip your mask down for a second?

[Golden Triangle]

These people at TAT aren't very deep thinkers are they ????????

[Sticky Rice Balls]

Just now, Will B Good said:

I find these masks a real killer......those asiatic eyes.....they all look like a million dollars........ I have to resist the temptation to ask 'can you slip your mask down for a second?

funfact singapore air now makes u do facial recog to get onboard--like it or not--so masks down

 

wasnt happy about it--or not even given an option---never again on Sing air.....air nazis....almost didnt let me board in LAX over my PCR dates.....guy had me ready to be in meltdown mode...

[tomacht8]

34 minutes ago, Concerned observer said:

Who do we believe Thanet Supharothatrangsi (and all his members) who actually rely on tourists for a living, to employ their staff, satisfy their shareholders, etc. or Yutthasak Suphasorn of the TAT who has made so many false claims over the last 2 years and relies on his BS and lies being believed to keep his job? Isn't about time that Thailand slimmed down TAT from its 2,000 plus staff worldwide in tune with all the tour operators, hotels, tourist companies, massage shops, retailers, etc., that are their members and pay their wages through membership fees? There aren't any tourists coming - yet they all seem to hold on to their gravy train, overpaid jobs - despite not delivering? 

All of the reporting and methodology of data collection has been garbage for decades. Lots of activities horrible (TAT website) or nonexistent (CRM). The highest of emotions is a bouquet of flowers for every millionth visitor at the airport. Even too lazy to evaluate the back of the TM 6 cards (which also needs a lot of improvement). They collect the email addresses like stupid, but don't do anything with them. The last lowlight was the commercial with Prayut as the main actor. As a marketing specialist, you can only throw up. Useless, the whole lot.

[Golden Triangle]

6 minutes ago, WEBBYB808 said:

Everything  except  the bars, or selling alcohol in restaurants. right, no what is meant is that many expats have returned,  and the number of people in Pattaya has grown a lot.  As the media has. Stated 200k in October,  on certain sois, Not Soi 6 thanks to Covid and the NW monopoly,  but soi Honey, Buakow,  Pattaya Klang, Beach road.. and more actually  het lots of foot traffic.   Maybe not what it once was and many places are still closed, or torn down like Soi Made in Thailand,  but there is a lot of life here now.  Car rentals, bars posing as restaurants.   Things are open and the population has grown.  

But they are not officially open and allowed to serve beer or wine or God forbid a 'G n T'  I want to visit a proper restaurant and enjoy a decent meal with my mrs, and not looking over my shoulder for plod approaching looking for big handouts ( as my dodgy knees won't allow me to do a runner anymore ????). We used to eat out 3 or 4 times a week, at proper restaurants not beer bars masquerading as restaurants with difficulty making a toasted sandwich and serving beer in a T or coffee mug.

 

Not a criticism of your post but the truth of the situation.

 

As for STD's, I'll take your word on that. ☺????????????