Omicron Will Arrive, Vaccination Urged – Official

[Chris.B]

3 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

It is preposterous to suggest that governments are not at all motivated by the public health aspect of this virus. Meanwhile, it is no secret that the anti vax sentiment is overwhelmingly driven by the far right.

In the UK it is driven by the Left and their socialist mates.

[ozimoron]

Just now, Chris.B said:

In the UK it is driven by the Left and their socialist mates.

Prove it

[Chris.B]

3 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Prove it

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/piers-corbyn-leads-flash-mob-25570683

 

[tomazbodner]

4 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

So far, it's not panning out that way.  These guys explains things quite nicely.

 

https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch

 

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing

 

Interesting. So my optimism kind of wanes by reading that. What did stand out from Dr Eric Ding was the chart of most hospitalisations being kinds under 5! This is definitely a different animal altogether... which makes sense, given the very large number of mutations compared to other variants.

[Misc1973]

16 hours ago, rodknock said:

how about all the people they are looking for who came from africa!!!!

will they find the people?

how many people were on the plane total?

if one is infected it will be a s--t storm.

Lol. 4000 plus cases daily in Thailand for the past 6 months and you are worried about a few hundred travellers from south Africa who may, may have a milder version of the virus. 

 

Lol. Please give it a spell. 

[Jeffr2]

4 minutes ago, Chris.B said:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/piers-corbyn-leads-flash-mob-25570683

 

Proves nothing.  Not to mention that site is a bit dodgy.

 

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[Jeffr2]

2 minutes ago, Misc1973 said:

Lol. 4000 plus cases daily in Thailand for the past 6 months and you are worried about a few hundred travellers from south Africa who may, may have a milder version of the virus. 

 

Lol. Please give it a spell. 

4000 cases down from over 20k, from a variant very similar to Delta.  And not proven to be milder.  Proven to be more transmissible.  Cause for concern for sure.  Panic?  Perhaps not yet.

[crazykopite]

There is a high percentage of people who have had two vaccines who have not got this latest variant this was reported in the last 24 hours so it appears to be that the variant is a lot stronger than any of the vaccines on the market 

[Chris.B]

35 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

As spoken by a member of the far right?

Oww.... that really hurt (not)!  ???????? 

Edited December 4, 2021 by Chris.B

[Jeffr2]

Here's one reason why even mild cases should be avoided.  Another symptom of long covid.

 

 

[RBOP]

1 hour ago, Jeffr2 said:

Not so sure that's the case:

 

I'm very sure according to the statistic

[ivor bigun]

3 hours ago, Joules said:

Folks are waiting for a decent vaccine.  the smart ones that a left unvaccinated don't want ass zeneca or Chinese surprise.  If the authorities want the country fully vaccinated the need to stop blocking the legitimate vaccines people want.

Astra Zenica is a very good vaccine ,do your homework ,also if a booster is johnson it is very very good.

[RBOP]

8 minutes ago, RBOP said:

I'm very sure according to the statistic

If go to last 6 weeks the down trend is even more pronounced 

[Jeffr2]

4 minutes ago, RBOP said:

If go to last 6 weeks the down trend is even more pronounced 

Because they've gotten to ones easy to reach.  Trying to get the ones up country or out on remote islands is much harder.  Easy to find people in the big cities, which have high vaccination rates.

 

They are doing about 500k per day.  About what they've been doing for months.

[rudi49jr]

Rest assured that Omicron is already here, it’s just not been detected yet. In my home country (Holland) they scrambled to get travel bans in place last week, but it turned out that Omicron had already arrived a week earlier. From what I understand so far, though, Omicron may be a mild(er) variant. Apparently when a virus mutates, it does so to become more contagious, so it can infect more people, but in doing so it loses some of its punch. Doctors/experts who know more about this, feel free to correct me if I’m wrong. 

[cyril sneer]

17 hours ago, cyril sneer said:

didn't know this

not sure why people are laughing at this

 

I had never heard of the 'Omicron' variant until just over a week ago in the news

[Jeffr2]

3 minutes ago, cyril sneer said:

not sure why people are laughing at this

 

I had never heard of the 'Omicron' variant until just over a week ago in the news

Agreed.  Never heard of it until the same time as you.

[RichardColeman]

3 hours ago, ozimoron said:

Your binary comparison of lock downs vs starving to death is completely false.

tell that to the thais queuing for food handouts from expats

[keithkarmann]

17 hours ago, ukrules said:

If they don't find them for another 10 days they will all be recovered by then....hence no infections.

Thats another way of keeping infections down, lose people who are bound to be infected. They take us all for fools.

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[Saanim]

Up to 60 infections in Norway
Omicron outbreak after Christmas party raises questions
The largest omicron outbreak outside of South Africa could have occurred in Norway. But the authorities say it is still too early to make precise statements about the difference to the Delta variant.

 

Around 120 colleagues, all vaccinated against Corona, meet for a Christmas party. More than half of them will later test positive for the dangerous virus. How is that possible? And how does a participant's previous trip to South Africa and the evidence of the Omikron variant for 13 celebrants so far relate to it? The case in the Norwegian capital Oslo raises many questions - but it could also help to understand the portability of Omikron.

 

The Christmas party took place on November 26th in the «Louise» restaurant in Oslo. At the invitation of their employer, the Norwegian solar energy company Scatec, around 120 employees come together for a meal. One or one of them recently returned from South Africa, where scientists announced evidence of the new Omikron corona variant the day before the Christmas party.

 

"They were all vaccinated, none of them had symptoms and they had all done self-tests," says Oslo health officer Tine Ravlo. She assures that the celebration took place within the framework of the Corona requirements and that “no rules were broken”.

 

No severe symptoms
Nevertheless, a week later there is no more party mood: 64 participants have a corona infection. In 60 of them it was detected with a PCR test, in four others only the result of the less precise antigen test is available for the time being. The Omikron variant was detected in at least 13 cases. Sequencing is still ongoing and further Omicron infections are considered likely.

 

None of the infected has so far developed severe symptoms. Most suffer from mild ailments such as headaches, sore throats and coughs, according to Ravlo.

It is even possible that “at least half of the 120 participants were infected with the Omikron variant during the celebration,” says Preben Aavitsland from the Norwegian Institute for Public Health. The case in Oslo would be “the largest omicron outbreak outside of South Africa”.

https://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/omikron-ausbruch-nach-weihnachtsfeier-wirft-fragen-auf-130224046970

 

 

[Jeffr2]

10 minutes ago, saintbangkok said:

The most astonishing thng about all this is that human beings still being these stories and cannot see through the pantomime. I had no idea people were so brainwashed by the news. 

Talk about brainwashed.  Jeez.

[Jeffr2]

5 minutes ago, Saanim said:

Up to 60 infections in Norway
Omicron outbreak after Christmas party raises questions
The largest omicron outbreak outside of South Africa could have occurred in Norway. But the authorities say it is still too early to make precise statements about the difference to the Delta variant.

 

Around 120 colleagues, all vaccinated against Corona, meet for a Christmas party. More than half of them will later test positive for the dangerous virus. How is that possible? And how does a participant's previous trip to South Africa and the evidence of the Omikron variant for 13 celebrants so far relate to it? The case in the Norwegian capital Oslo raises many questions - but it could also help to understand the portability of Omikron.

 

The Christmas party took place on November 26th in the «Louise» restaurant in Oslo. At the invitation of their employer, the Norwegian solar energy company Scatec, around 120 employees come together for a meal. One or one of them recently returned from South Africa, where scientists announced evidence of the new Omikron corona variant the day before the Christmas party.

 

"They were all vaccinated, none of them had symptoms and they had all done self-tests," says Oslo health officer Tine Ravlo. She assures that the celebration took place within the framework of the Corona requirements and that “no rules were broken”.

 

No severe symptoms
Nevertheless, a week later there is no more party mood: 64 participants have a corona infection. In 60 of them it was detected with a PCR test, in four others only the result of the less precise antigen test is available for the time being. The Omikron variant was detected in at least 13 cases. Sequencing is still ongoing and further Omicron infections are considered likely.

 

None of the infected has so far developed severe symptoms. Most suffer from mild ailments such as headaches, sore throats and coughs, according to Ravlo.

It is even possible that “at least half of the 120 participants were infected with the Omikron variant during the celebration,” says Preben Aavitsland from the Norwegian Institute for Public Health. The case in Oslo would be “the largest omicron outbreak outside of South Africa”.

https://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/omikron-ausbruch-nach-weihnachtsfeier-wirft-fragen-auf-130224046970

 

 

Matches what they are saying.  More infectious.

[Bkk Brian]

3 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

Matches what they are saying.  More infectious.

They were also all vaccinated so its getting clearer that there is immune evasion with Omicron and break throughs are more likely, although as reported all currently mild symptoms. Hopefully the current vaccines will continue to protect against serious illness/death.

[thecyclist]

19 hours ago, Pravda said:

Detected in Vietnam and Malaysia....and from some Facebook posts it's here in great numbers.

Where did you get this information? No confirmed case of Omicron in Vietnam yet. 

[Luton]

6 hours ago, stephenterry said:

And so can those people who are fully vaxxed. About time people understood the Vaxxes protect most people against serious infection without the need for hospital treatment.

 

And that applies to those who have been infected and recovered. If they are otherwise healthy they have as much immunity as those who are Vaxxed.  It's those who are not vaxxed and have not been infected who are at risk. 

I think you may be merely churning out what you have heard from propaganda and 'control' sources who are driving a much bigger damaging agenda. Many well-respected professional medical people and scientists are now saying the vaxx are causing immune system breakdown (too many of them to quote here but you can research). It's your natural immune system and supporting that with already existing medicines (see Zelenko protocol...that's one example) that's truly beneficial whether you are not vaxxed, like me, or had Covid early on, like I did and recovered. Non vaxxed and no infection (that they know of) can similarly spruce up their protection by supporting their natural immune system with the medicines Big Pharma wants eradicated otherwise their profits would dwindle! Let's wake up from the lies and the abuse!

Edited December 4, 2021 by Luton
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[Kadilo]

1 minute ago, thecyclist said:

Where did you get this information? No confirmed case of Omicron in Vietnam yet. 

Probably the same source as the info re Thailand. 

[Jeffr2]

6 minutes ago, Luton said:

I think you are merely churning out what you have heard from propaganda and 'control' sources who are driving a much bigger damaging agenda. Many well-respected professional medical people and scientists are now saying the vaxx are causing immune system breakdown (too many of them to quote here but you can research). It's your natural immune system and supporting that with already existing medicines (see Zelenko protocol...that's one example) that's truly beneficial whether you are not vaxxed, like me, or had Covid early on, like I did and recovered. Non vaxxed and no infection (that they know of) can similarly spruce up their protection by supporting their natural immune system with the medicines Big Pharma wants eradicated otherwise their profits would dwindle! Let's wake up from the lies and the abuse!

You'll have to put up a credible link to prove this. Otherwise....a terrible conspiracy theory.

[RBOP]

2 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

Because they've gotten to ones easy to reach.  Trying to get the ones up country or out on remote islands is much harder.  Easy to find people in the big cities, which have high vaccination rates.

 

They are doing about 500k per day.  About what they've been doing for months.

 

No its not been 500 for months.

 

On December 1st (1st, 2nd and 3rd average jabs per day)

-  7 day average =   452,012

- 14 day average =  465,535 

- 30 day average = 571,239

 

One when clearly see its slowing down. 

[Jeffr2]

23 minutes ago, RBOP said:

 

No its not been 500 for months.

 

On December 1st (1st, 2nd and 3rd average jabs per day)

-  7 day average =   452,012

- 14 day average =  465,535 

- 30 day average = 571,239

 

One when clearly see its slowing down. 

Nitpicking a bit? Pretty darn close to 500k.