4MyEgo Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, GrandPapillon said: why do people bother staying in Thailand with all the immigration non-sense, this country has no future, it doesn't change or improve, it's only great for coming 3 to 4 months a year I bother because I love the freedom Thailand provides me with, immigration is a walk in the park, the cheap cost of living compared to back in my home country, building a big comfortable house for 1/10th the price compared to back in the old country, regardless if it's the wife's, not having to pay taxes from my investments, staying at 5 star hotels for half the price when I choose too, or even 3 stars, it's easy to get around, I could go on, but I know you missed what most of us already know that's why you probably don't live here ? 3 to 4 months is for those who can't afford to live here and have to work to come back again and again and again IMO, why bother, because of the need too ???? Edited December 7, 2021 by 4MyEgo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HashBrownHarry Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 3 hours ago, ezzra said: Don't you just loath it when you have those who wallowing in the misery of others? so the man did a mistake, is this a good reason to mock him?... People are jealous that other people can afford elite visa. Not sure why they mention 'hiso', that's something completely different. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack1988 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 I don't understand why some farangs pay so much money for an elite visa 555. They could find a good thai lady and marry! It is only 1900 bath a year. Anyway immigration has the power in their hands. I live in Thailand since long time and honestly am very happy and everything is all good but for me there's no future for some farangs here 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre0720 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Immigration does so little to attract and keep wealthy customers here. Yes customers, who spend a lot of money here. I have a Master Card Credit card. Recently, I get an e-mail, telling me that I have to pay $4.59, billed to my card this month, and that this amount should be paid at the latest on such a date, so I do not get a mark on my credit. Mastercard will do that for such a minimal amount, but the CLERKS, yes CLERKS at immigration are incapable to enact a process that will keep a large amount of money in the country. Are they doing that on purpose, or they are incapable of thinking of ways to earn money? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seedy Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 4 hours ago, DrJack54 said: Think you will find that he did not need to exit Thailand, however if staying more than one year he needs to attend immigration. It's unfortunate he was not aware of that. Exactly. If he is so clueless to not know the requirements, or can't remember them, then hire an agent for his EV and they will remind him That is why you hire professionals - so you do not have to do it yourself Simple, Really 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fangless Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 3 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Dont think that there's anything that they could have done to assist him Except maybe to explain the SMALL print many times to him since the .Elite(ists) never think as they assume that someone else while solve their problems for them! It does not take a rocket scientist to understand the word(s) annual/renewal/update etc! I have no sympathy for his case what so ever, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post robblok Posted December 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2021 I got elite visa too, they do send out a lot of emails telling people to not overstay and extend their visa. Sad for the guy and yes elite should have helped but still how is this different from a pensioner that did have the 800k in the bank but did not extend ?. Just that we paid for the privilege (i would not have paid if i was married or old enough) does not mean we dont need to keep to the rules even if we paid a lot of money. But really they send emails out a lot. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post robblok Posted December 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2021 15 minutes ago, fangless said: Except maybe to explain the SMALL print many times to him since the .Elite(ists) never think as they assume that someone else while solve their problems for them! It does not take a rocket scientist to understand the word(s) annual/renewal/update etc! I have no sympathy for his case what so ever, Then this guy was not that bright, im on elite visa and i knew was explained well and countless emails are send about this. So it was more a failure to read or even care. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpatOilWorker Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Adds for Portugal pops up, maybe the AI algorithm knows what is best for the Elite after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubbaJohnny Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Yes been thinking of returning there myself no endless corruption, a bit cooler but Algarve Alentejo hardly need air con or heating. Vehicles cheaper, food similar quality and at home if you include a bottle of wine often cheaper than here. Some services free for EU citizens like health and of course in 12 years there I never ever visited or submitted a single document to Immigration , don't know how the photocopy industry survives? Unlike LOS. It has been known to have a cold shower which Brits Irish Canadians and Bostonians would regard as a mild shower often refreshing. Another added benefit my wife already drives on the other side of teh road so no retraning needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackprince Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Portugal's a beautiful place and easy for EU citizens. But for non EU citizens (including Brits these days) I would guess the admin is much greater than in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humbug Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 The OP should understand, there is no need to leave the country after 12 months on an Elite card, just needs an in-country extension, it no longer is an elite issue, but someone forgetting their extension date expiry to renew, now it's a thai immigration issue with the overstayer, nothing about what visa he holds, if thai immigration stop him for 12 months, what else can he do, elite are not immigration, nothing they can do about thai immigration overstay laws all these kind of threads do are to confuse people, into thinking elite has a magic wand over thai immigration laws, it doesn't, we all accept that, when we use the service, if anything happens on missing expiry dates for extensions, that's on us, no one else, same for any other type of visa/extension people hold 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misty Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Andre0720 said: Mastercard will do that for such a minimal amount, but the CLERKS, yes CLERKS at immigration are incapable to enact a process that will keep a large amount of money in the country. Are they doing that on purpose, or they are incapable of thinking of ways to earn money? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humbug Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 5 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Isn't the maximum overstay fine 20 000 Baht ? Yes, the thread smells of a fake story, the weekly bash elite card thread, if it's true then it's about missing expiry dates in passports, nothing more, I mean why charge 25k when its 20k, why claim that am overstay on elite is different to an overstay on another type of visa/extension, paying for an elite card doesn't mean you pay to control immigration laws, that's just being foolish or fake 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post digbeth Posted December 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2021 1 hour ago, fangless said: Except maybe to explain the SMALL print many times to him since the .Elite(ists) never think as they assume that someone else while solve their problems for them! It does not take a rocket scientist to understand the word(s) annual/renewal/update etc! I have no sympathy for his case what so ever, they can explain it to him but they can't understand it for him 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JustAnotherHun Posted December 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Jack1988 said: I don't understand why some farangs pay so much money for an elite visa 555. They could find a good thai lady and marry! It is only 1900 bath a year. The "good lady" could be much more costly than an EV in the long run ???? 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poohy Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 3 hours ago, ubonjoe said: I have never read of anybody being successful when filing a appeal for it. If he had not paid the fine and was taken to the detention center (IDC) he might of been able to get something done. From my friends experience 2018 No need to appeal it costs 10k payable at idc Then no blacklist he (was deported ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poohy Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 55 minutes ago, humbug said: now it's a thai immigration issue with the overstayer, nothing about what visa he holds, if thai immigration stop him for 12 months, what else can he do, elite are not immigration, nothing they can do about thai immigration overstay laws all these kind of threads do are to confuse people, into thinking elite has a magic wand over thai immigration laws, it doesn't, we all accept that, when we use the service, if anything happens on missing expiry dates for extensions, that's on us, no one else, same for any other type of visa/extension people hold seriously i have lived here 20 odd years obviously never having anything to do with such stuff i thought elite visa was a government immigration department sounds like its just a private company Thats scary! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris.B Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 "His elite visa is good for another 2 years. To add salt to the wound he had to pay 25,000 baht fine for overstaying." I would have expected his Elite Visa to be cancelled as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post EricTh Posted December 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2021 So this elite visa is not really 'elite'. Why pay so much when we have to exit from Thailand every 12 months? It's ridiculous. 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Led Lolly Yellow Lolly Posted December 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2021 (edited) Makes me chuckle in a way, people paying through the nose to dodge the rules, but getting snared by the rules. I have a mate that worked in Thailand for decades for some multinational. He claimed he never needed to bother with 90 day reporting, stating "people like him" are exempted on account of immigration being smart enough to know Thailand needs executives... Then covid happens, he can't travel, so needs to visit immigration for an extension, and they duly fined him for never reporting. Oh how I laughed. Edited December 7, 2021 by Led Lolly Yellow Lolly 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fangless Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Led Lolly Yellow Lolly said: hey duly fined him for never reporting. And so he paid how much of a fine for missing all those reports? The answer is peanuts! (if I remember correctly it is about 1500 Baht no matter how many reports you miss) and no record on your passport! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyn Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 the word Elite and farang are never ever going to be together 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lite Beer Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 12 minutes ago, fangless said: And so he paid how much of a fine for missing all those reports? The answer is peanuts! (if I remember correctly it is about 1500 Baht no matter how many reports you miss) and no record on your passport! 2,000 Baht. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 7 hours ago, GrandPapillon said: 7 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Isn't the maximum overstay fine 20 000 Baht ? special Thai 'elite' pricing? ???? Special embellishment by the OP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 5 hours ago, BritTim said: Immigration officials at a sufficiently high level have the power to waive the blacklisting. I really do think that this is a case where imposing the fine and waiving the blacklisting would have been appropriate. Too late now. What's the difference between his overstay and anyone else's overstay of the same length, why should he be shown special lenience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 3 hours ago, Andre0720 said: Immigration does so little to attract and keep wealthy customers here. Yes customers, who spend a lot of money here. I have a Master Card Credit card. Recently, I get an e-mail, telling me that I have to pay $4.59, billed to my card this month, and that this amount should be paid at the latest on such a date, so I do not get a mark on my credit. Mastercard will do that for such a minimal amount, but the CLERKS, yes CLERKS at immigration are incapable to enact a process that will keep a large amount of money in the country. Are they doing that on purpose, or they are incapable of thinking of ways to earn money? Immigration Bureau has nothing to do with, nor any responsibility for, keeping the wealthy here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 36 minutes ago, fangless said: And so he paid how much of a fine for missing all those reports? The answer is peanuts! (if I remember correctly it is about 1500 Baht no matter how many reports you miss) and no record on your passport! B2,000 and a stamp/receipt in your passport. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 7 hours ago, 3421abc said: To add salt to the wound he had to pay 25,000 baht fine for overstaying. Nah, he didn't pay that. Any other inaccuracies/exaggerations in your story? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritTim Posted December 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2021 17 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said: What's the difference between his overstay and anyone else's overstay of the same length, why should he be shown special lenience? The difference is that it is quite obvious that the overstay (when all he needs for an extension is to open his passport and show the visa) was an accidental oversight. When others overstay, they can claim they forgot, but officials will always suspect that the real reason is that they could not meet the requirements for an extension. When officials can be sure the overstay was an accident, I think there is a strong case for leniency, certainly for a first offence. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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