On 12/28/2025 at 2:28 PM, EVENKEEL said:

Finding diesel is much simpler.  Just saying. 

Not at the moment

7 hours ago, Bandersnatch said:

Not at the moment

You got me there, that's for sure.

We've now driven 8,000km in our Neta V.

Total cost 1,600bht for the 30k service.

Fuel driving costs ZERO, all charged from my solar panels.

Hard to beat that!

9 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

We've now driven 8,000km in our Neta V.

Total cost 1,600bht for the 30k service.

Fuel driving costs ZERO, all charged from my solar panels.

Hard to beat that!

Yep ... 58k+ on our MG ZS, and more than half charged from solar. Over ฿60k saved, using ฿32 / L as an average price, and I think I'm being kind.

Along with having to make a special trip to petrol station and wasting 10 minutes of life every week or so, and not counting the drive to. Nothing convenient about petrol for us.

See early details/projection/guess/etc., on how the government program may pan-out....program still in development...but it will surely transition some folks from ICE vehicles to EV/PHEV/Hybrid vehicles. See weblink below for more info. Also included below is a key image from the article...in Thai and google translated to English.

https://www.car250.com/2026-04-17.html

A new report into EV battery life indicates that the idea that EV batteries age poorly is a misconception – and they often outlive the cars themselves.

Why your opinion of used electric vehicles is probably wrong

In a twist that might displease Henry Ford, a recent report found EV batteries treated well should outlast the cars themselves, suggesting used EVs are a much better deal than they would first seem.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg27035922-600-why-your-opinion-of-used-electric-vehicles-is-probably-wrong/

Full article at: https://www.car250.com/battery-bev-5.html

20 hours ago, Pib said:

Full article at: https://www.car250.com/battery-bev-5.html

EV batteries do fail within the warranty period regardless of which country manufacturers the battery

Nissan leaf 40kwh battery produced in UK, Japan and Smyrna, Tennessee USA

in recent years Nissan USA have launched a buyback scheme to buyback Nissan leaf's that have degraded as Nissan is having supply chain issues and battery replacement is taking between 9+ months for certain models

Nissan failed to repair a brand-new Leaf with a failed 40-kilowatt-hour battery.

The car sat at the dealer for months.

Eventually, Nissan bought back the car from the owner and offered another, brand-new Leaf.

https://insideevs.com/features/740026/nissan-leaf-bricked-buyback/

I think it was stated in another thread that not all EV Batteries are the same

Here is MG ZS EV Thailand

MG ZS EV 2019 414,000 km big battery change at 370,000 km Battery SOH was 57% could run 100 Km on full charge 

battery degraded due to always DC charging

video is in thai but has english subtitles

35 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

EV batteries do fail within the warranty period regardless of which country manufacturers the battery

Nissan leaf 40kwh battery produced in UK, Japan and Smyrna, Tennessee USA

in recent years Nissan USA have launched a buyback scheme to buyback Nissan leaf's that have degraded as Nissan is having supply chain issues and battery replacement is taking between 9+ months for certain models

Nissan failed to repair a brand-new Leaf with a failed 40-kilowatt-hour battery.

The car sat at the dealer for months.

Eventually, Nissan bought back the car from the owner and offered another, brand-new Leaf.

https://insideevs.com/features/740026/nissan-leaf-bricked-buyback/

I think it was stated in another thread that not all EV Batteries are the same

Here is MG ZS EV Thailand

MG ZS EV 2019 414,000 km big battery change at 370,000 km Battery SOH was 57% could run 100 Km on full charge 

battery degraded due to always DC charging

video is in thai but has english subtitles

Yes, the Nissan Leaf was one of the first, EV that sold well. Later found out to be a real POS. Kudos to Nissan for the buy back though.

2019 MG ZS EV ... Aside from the cost, the battery chemistry NMC (along with size) is the reason we bought the ICE version in 2020. Not until the LFP upgrade and slightly larger battery, with that 240k baht incentive did we then decide to buy in 2022.

Still 'Lovin' It', just back from Krung Thep and Hua Hin, and cost for the trip was probably 1/3 of an ICE version. I'll spare y'all, as posted to many times.

Posted this very conservative chart, for NMC vs LFP, life cycle expectance too many times also, but for any noobs on the site ...

Edited April 28Apr 28 by KhunLA

2 hours ago, vinny41 said:

EV batteries do fail within the warranty period regardless of which country manufacturers the battery

Nissan leaf 40kwh battery produced in UK, Japan and Smyrna, Tennessee USA

in recent years Nissan USA have launched a buyback scheme to buyback Nissan leaf's that have degraded as Nissan is having supply chain issues and battery replacement is taking between 9+ months for certain models

Nissan failed to repair a brand-new Leaf with a failed 40-kilowatt-hour battery.

The car sat at the dealer for months.

Eventually, Nissan bought back the car from the owner and offered another, brand-new Leaf.

https://insideevs.com/features/740026/nissan-leaf-bricked-buyback/

I think it was stated in another thread that not all EV Batteries are the same

Here is MG ZS EV Thailand

MG ZS EV 2019 414,000 km big battery change at 370,000 km Battery SOH was 57% could run 100 Km on full charge 

battery degraded due to always DC charging

video is in thai but has english subtitles

Nissan Leaf batteries have been poster child for how to build a battery pack so cheap it fails often such as using "passive cooling...a.k.a., basically no cooling other than normal air flow over the battery"......and "pouch" cells vs cylindrical or blade cells, etc. Now apparently for 2026 Nissan Lead models have switched to liquid cooled cells.

Yea, the Nissan Leaf battery troubles is no longer representative of modern day EV batteries....Nissan Leaf batteries are just representative of a poor battery and cooling design to build a lower cost vehicle.....a historical note as to how to do it wrong.

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Nice try Vinny

Among BEV, Hybrid, and ICE vehicles it appears "Battery EV" (i.e. 100% electric) are now routinely outselling hybrid and ICE in Thailand. And ICE sales are rapidly declining for 2026....even pickup truck sales are rolling off. See car250.com article for full story and graphics....a few key snapshots from the article also below.

https://www.car250.com/th-sael-04-2569.html

For Apr 2026

For Jan-Apr 2026

See weblink below for full story.

https://www.car250.com/laos-ice-ev.html

12 hours ago, Pib said:

laos looks like a (cost-) paradise for ev owners who have a home charger:

10 minutes ago, motdaeng said:

laos looks like a (cost-) paradise for ev owners who have a home charger:

Yea, who needs the upfront cost of solar with electricity cost that cheap in Laos if above low cost applies to low "and high" household electricity usage.

Edited May 26May 26 by Pib

I just bought a 2026 Honda City RS sedan

I am happy to have it as it seems now that Honda Thailand have announced their 2027 lineup that you will only be able to buy a HEV (Hybrid) unless you choose their lowest finish model

Also I am really impressed with mileage on this 2026 RS. Yes it is just a liter engine but turbo charged & 119 HP & 145Nm torque with a 40 liter tank it does over 1000 KM at 27.26 km per liter.

I mean I live in a mountainous area & the mileage has been impressive (to me )

At the end of the day I always ask how is a country generating electricity? If it is as most then maybe a stingy hi/good power petrol engine is still a frugal use of energy

This looks interesting - lithium-air batteries could give an energy density roughly equivalent to gasoline.

CATL sets sights on lithium-air technology with theoretical gasoline-level 12,000 Wh/kg energy density

The theoretical energy density of lithium-air technology is staggering, reaching up to 12,000 Wh/kg—a figure comparable to gasoline (approx. 13,000 Wh/kg). While current laboratory prototypes have achieved over 1,200 Wh/kg, this is already more than four times the 250–270 Wh/kg capacity of mainstream lithium-ion batteries and significantly higher than the 500 Wh/kg expected from solid-state batteries.

https://carnewschina.com/2026/06/03/catl-sets-sights-on-lithium-air-technology-with-theoretical-gasoline-level-12000-wh-kg-energy-density/

If successfully commercialised, this technology could fundamentally eliminate range anxiety, making electric vehicle ranges exceeding 1,600 km common.

See below weblink for full story.

https://www.car250.com/sale-car-top-china-2026-05.html

Get 'charged' for parking too long in the station..a portent of things to come no doubt

soon get charged per KM, get charged per time of day congestion charge

get charged for charging too much 🤮

8 minutes ago, johng said:

Get 'charged' for parking too long in the station..a portent of things to come no doubt

soon get charged per KM, get charged per time of day congestion charge

get charged for charging too much 🤮

Nope, just your paranoid nonsense. You are terrified of the future.

Makes perfect sense to charge people if they leave their cars sitting in a charging spot as many people are very selfish.

21 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

You are terrified of the future.

The future is bright..the future is Orange.

Yes the AI panopticon is quite terrifying..but my point is not about selfish people who think they will 'save the earth' in their EV's its about the ever tightening control over everyone's life,

of course those with 'nothing to hide' also have nothing to say about this as its all so convenient to be dictated to via an app...just remember 'you will own nothing and be happy'

Nothing new about a penalty/fee for not promptly removing your EV after charging has completed....it's just PTT EV Station was late to the game in implementing such...and since PTT EV Station is the biggest EV charging network in Thailand it naturally garnered a lot of media attention.

1 hour ago, johng said:

The future is bright..the future is Orange.

Yes the AI panopticon is quite terrifying..but my point is not about selfish people who think they will 'save the earth' in their EV's its about the ever tightening control over everyone's life,

of course those with 'nothing to hide' also have nothing to say about this as its all so convenient to be dictated to via an app...just remember 'you will own nothing and be happy'

Ask the people on this forum who own EVs, ask them how many of them think they are "saving the earth". The answer will probably be close to zero.

They buy them because they are more comfortable to do journeys in, nicer to drive, faster, more responsive, quieter, have better technology, and they are generally cheaper to buy and absolutely much cheaper to run.

You have gone from a fee for occupying a space someone else could use to some kind of imagined new world order. Mental.

If you drive your petrol or diesel car to PTT to fill up then when it is finished you get out and go shopping for an hour leaving it occupying a pump day, do you think that would be acceptable? If people were routinely doing that and PTT said they would start fining people for it would that be a scary new "control over your life" and being "dictated to by an app"?

You guys have vivid and wild imaginations and no sense of perspective or logic.

9 hours ago, johng said:

The future is bright..the future is Orange.

Yes the AI panopticon is quite terrifying..but my point is not about selfish people who think they will 'save the earth' in their EV's its about the ever tightening control over everyone's life,

of course those with 'nothing to hide' also have nothing to say about this as its all so convenient to be dictated to via an app...just remember 'you will own nothing and be happy'

Go park your car in a Dino refueling port and let us know how you go… 🤭

9 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

If you drive your petrol or diesel car to PTT to fill up then when it is finished you get out and go shopping for an hour leaving it occupying a pump day, do you think that would be acceptable?

I would never even think of doing something so selfish,ever.

It just goes to show how selfish some of those ecco warriors really are and also shows how willing others are for further use of intrusive spyware/apps/ AI to enforce what most would see a plain old common sense or courtesy..this is the road to a social credit system

everything you do and say monitored 24/7 transgressions punished instantly for you convenience and safety !

9 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

You guys have vivid and wild imaginations and no sense of perspective or logic.

You guys can't even see the woods for the trees..you have already been captured in your cosy 'convenient' prison.

27 minutes ago, johng said:

You guys can't even see the woods for the trees..you have already been captured in your cosy 'convenient' prison.

people said the same thing first about computers, then about cell phones ... do you own a computer or a smartphone?

welcome to your self-appointed club of the “convenience prison” ...

btw, i don’t know a single bev owner who actually claims they are going to save nature with their bev ... do you?

by now, even ev critics should really know that we don’t drive bev's to “save the world” ... please stop making that claim ...

On 6/10/2026 at 8:39 AM, motdaeng said:

do you own a computer or a smartphone?

I carry out these interactions with my FAX machine.

On 6/10/2026 at 8:39 AM, motdaeng said:

i don’t know a single bev owner who actually claims they are going to save nature with their bev ... do you?

Nope I don't know a single BEV owner but they all claim to be 'saving the planet' by not using fossil fuels and not emitting C02 or other gasses don't they ?

Also I am really impressed with mileage on this 2026 RS. Yes it is just a liter engine but turbo charged & 119 HP & 145Nm torque with a 40 liter tank it does over 1000 KM at 27.26 km per liter.

I mean I live in a mountainous area & the mileage has been impressive (to me )

Post back in 100K miles. My concern with small turbo engines is thrashing them, and they wear out after a short time. Not to mention oil contamination from the heat generated in the turbo.

I'm a Honda fan, (and Toyota, too). But they don't always get it right. Give me a 2 liter naturally aspirated engine over a 1 liter turbo, any day.

I'm hoping yours lasts as long as you want it to. I'm skeptical, but open to be proven wrong.