Calls for action at crossroads after two 14 year boys killed on three person motorcycle

[webfact]

Picture: Daily News

 

Police in the Ongkharak area of Nakhon Nayok province in central Thailand were called after a collision between a pick-up and a motorcycle at a crossroads. 

 

A pick-up and bike were both in the undergrowth when rescue services arrived in the area by the temple of Wat Mai Pong Sophon. 

 

The force of the collison was so great that the engine of the Honda bike had become detached from the frame.

 

Dead at the scene was Nattawut, 14. Thanadol, also 14, died later in hospital.

 

Picture: Daily News

 

The driver of the bike Marut, 31, a relative of the deceased, is in a serious condition in hospital. 

 

Thanakorn, 28, who was driving the pick-up said that the three on the bike came out of a side turning into his path and he was unable to brake in time. 

 

Debris was scattered over a 50 meter area.

 

The intersection has no lights and locals say it is an accident blackspot and action is needed by the authorities to make it safer, reported Daily News yesterday. 

 

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[Ralf001]

What action is being called for, K.Marut to be jailed for murder after he recovers ?

[ChrisY1]

Rarely, do the riders look for traffic when entering a roadway.....14 year old kids would have zero idea of road safety....their parents would never have taught them.....

[bkk6060]

Jeez, good luck there are 10's of thousands of these type intersections in the country what "action" can they take?

[2long]

So very sad but most likely causes are

- kids unable to control a bike that is overweighted and the rider has little experience

- the bike was probably poorly maintained

- pickup driver probably going too fast and/or not paying attention and/or his vehicle was overloaded or poorly maintained

- inadequate lighting and signals

 

Thailand's roads are lethal, but the locals grow up desensitised to it.

[KhunLA]

A couple repliers didn't seem to read the OP ... "driver of the bike Marut, 31"

 

Fix the intersection, may simply mean install stop signs / lights, as many intersection have none.  

" intersection has no lights and locals say it is an accident blackspot"

[jacko45k]

45 minutes ago, ChrisY1 said:

Rarely, do the riders look for traffic when entering a roadway.....14 year old kids would have zero idea of road safety....their parents would never have taught them.....

Quote

The driver of the bike Marut, 31

Similar is true of the adults too. 

[Kwasaki]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

Calls for action at crossroads

I think I heard something similar 20 years ago .

[Hamus Yaigh]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

The intersection has no lights and locals say it is an accident blackspot and action is needed by the authorities to make it safer

Make it safer for illegal three on a bike riders?

[roo860]

16 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

A couple repliers didn't seem to read the OP ... "driver of the bike Marut, 31"

 

Fix the intersection, may simply mean install stop signs / lights, as many intersection have none.  

" intersection has no lights and locals say it is an accident blackspot"

Good ideas, but most would have little regard for lights, stop signs etc.

[KhunLA]

3 minutes ago, roo860 said:

Good ideas, but most would have little regard for lights, stop signs etc.

And yet I see people respect both on a daily basis, with very few ignoring them.

 

Anti-Thai statement don't help anyone, and simply show your prejudice. 

[robblok]

11 minutes ago, roo860 said:

Good ideas, but most would have little regard for lights, stop signs etc.

Sure but its better then doing nothing.

 

Where i lived before they had traffic lights. People stopped.. then they decided to stop using them putting in flashing mode. Madness. Maybe they were defective and repair cost money. I am not sure but the lights were great much safer on that intersection. 

[big dendrobenaes]

motorbikes ARE NOT for 3 people........they are for driver and ONE pillion passenger !!!

[Gottfrid]

And again three underaged boys have an accident on motorbike, and we blame the crossings. Well, that´s a big step back to cave-living-IQ, or to presume a stage that they never left.

What about blaming uncaring, irresponsible parent, not enough policing and punishment. That as well as the government have not found out a way to provide a cheap public transport in all places needed. But, on the other hand, they only had the last 20 years to fix it. 

[roo860]

14 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

And yet I see people respect both on a daily basis, with very few ignoring them.

 

Anti-Thai statement don't help anyone, and simply show your prejudice. 

No prejudice what so ever mate, just from my observations riding motorbikes,driving a car. The worst offenders IMO are motorbike riders. Out in the sticks it's a different situation, city areas people tend to comply a bit more.

[KannikaP]

10 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

And again three underaged boys have an accident on motorbike

Read again.......the driver was 31 years old.

[ignis]

33 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

And again three underaged boys have an accident on motorbike, and we blame the crossings. Well, that´s a big step back to cave-living-IQ, or to presume a stage that they never left.

What about blaming uncaring, irresponsible parent, not enough policing and punishment. That as well as the government have not found out a way to provide a cheap public transport in all places needed. But, on the other hand, they only had the last 20 years to fix it. 

No is clearly says a 'three person motorcycle'

[spidermike007]

I am often astonished when bikes pull onto the road, and do not even glance in my direction. Where is the instinct for self preservation? How do you pull onto a road or a busy highway, without even a look at oncoming traffic? 

 

One must remain highly vigilant here, to avoid taking out reckless drivers, in a daily basis. My sense of it, is the skill and common sense levels are very low here. 

[ikke1959]

as they erase the zebra crossings get rid now of the crossroads as too many accidents happens

[farangroby]

3 on the motorbike???

 

[KhunBENQ]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

Thanakorn, 28, who was driving the pick-up said that the three on the bike came out of a side turning into his path and he was unable to brake in time. 

Absolute standard behavior. Just today I had a near hit with a fool (not a kid) from a side Soi who looked like turning in left (which I was prepared). But no, he even went diagonally in front of me to a main road entrance.

[KhunBENQ]

2 minutes ago, farangroby said:

3 on the motorbike???

 

Where you live?

[fittobethaied]

The guy on the motorbike made the typical "Buddha turn" without looking to see if a vehicle was approaching. I see it every day, and it can be a death sentence.

[KhunBENQ]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

Nattawut, 14. Thanadol, also 14

In our village they are even younger. And those who can absolutely not handle a motorbike, they now have the new pest: electrical mini scooters, going significantly fast. Tell this in your home country.

Also very popular: three and more on/in one of these botched sidecars.

Racing around the schoolyard and on the village roads.

[Meat Pie 47]

5 hours ago, big dendrobenaes said:

motorbikes ARE NOT for 3 people........they are for driver and ONE pillion passenger !!!

not in Thailand

 

[HarrySeaman]

Many Thais that live in rural areas and small villages can only afford a motorcycle, not a car.  It is common to see the whole family on one, father, wife, and three children.  It isn't something that they do because they want to do it, it is just that the motorcycle is all they afford and they need to transport the whole family.

 

Motorbikes are usually well maintained, except for the lights, here in Thailand.  Many on the road are over 20 years old and running well.  On the other hand cars and trucks have many accidents because "the brakes failed".

 

Thais consider traffic laws and "common sense rules of the road" to be advisory, only to be obeyed when a policeman is present and watching them.  Adding Stop or Yield signs to corners where a side road meets a main road would be a waste of time and money since they would be ignored, just like speed laws are ignored.

In rural areas and small villages many/most children start driving motorcycles before they are 10 years old.  By the time they are old enough to get a driving license they have years of experience and are extremely good at handling the motorcycle.  What they don't have is any incentive to learn and follow the traffic laws and "common sense rules of the road"

Turning left when emerging from a side street without checking for oncoming traffic is normal here, it is assumed that anyone approaching will slow down or stop for you.  I am always getting passed on one side or the other when I stop my my Honda Wave at a corner of a side street to wait for a clear lane or lanes to turn onto the main road.  In the last 10 years of driving here in Pattaya I have also seen multiple bloody results Thais not stopping to look before turning.

[wensiensheng]

I don’t see a lot of point in the current trend of highlighting the odd traffic fatality, or two or three. Deadly traffic conditions are endemic in Thailand and this trend of picking on individual instances will just blow over in a week, just as it always does.

 

if something is to be done, it requires a radical overhaul of so many aspects of road safety that I can’t even bother to start naming them.

[RJRS1301]

5 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

And again three underaged boys have an accident on motorbike, and we blame the crossings. Well, that´s a big step back to cave-living-IQ, or to presume a stage that they never left.

What about blaming uncaring, irresponsible parent, not enough policing and punishment. That as well as the government have not found out a way to provide a cheap public transport in all places needed. But, on the other hand, they only had the last 20 years to fix it. 

No one was 31 years of age and it appears in charge on said bike

[Card]

Don't blame the road. It's the motorbike riders that need educating 

[Liverpool Lou]

7 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

What action is being called for, K.Marut to be jailed for murder after he recovers ?

Why should that happen?