chieftan Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: Do you disagree with the CDC? Depends. Disagree is the wrong word, trust, believe come to mind. You must recall this: CDC Director Dr. Rochelle P. Walensky had said Tuesday that "vaccinated people do not carry the virus, don't get sick, and that is not just in the clinical trials but it's also in real world data." Her statement was based on a large study the federal health agency released Monday..." https://nypost.com/2021/04/02/cdc-walks-back-claim-that-vaccinated-people-cant-carry-covid/ Edited February 20, 2022 by chieftan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 47 minutes ago, chieftan said: It should come as no surprise why covid stats based on vax status is not compiled in the US, and published. who, little ole me? You mention attacking, can you give some context to "attacking the same members". I admit nor deny anything, but maybe some members object to free speech and some "expression" and you, and others see this as attacks? Pretty soft aren't we? No surprise because it’s not true. Covid stats on hospitalization and deaths with vaccination stats are published, you’ve obviously been spending your time looking in the wrong places. here’s a starter for you, plenty of other states publish the same. https://www.dshs.texas.gov/immunize/covid19/data/vaccination-status.aspx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiSePuede419 Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 (edited) #91 out of 226 (deaths/1M population). https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ Better than average. Good job, Thailand. ???? Edited February 20, 2022 by SiSePuede419 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunPer Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 10 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: Do you need a graph when you already have the official source in the links???? Yes, need several countries to compare with, not only UK...???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 57 minutes ago, chieftan said: Depends. Disagree is the wrong word, trust, believe come to mind. You must recall this: CDC Director Dr. Rochelle P. Walensky had said Tuesday that "vaccinated people do not carry the virus, don't get sick, and that is not just in the clinical trials but it's also in real world data." Her statement was based on a large study the federal health agency released Monday..." https://nypost.com/2021/04/02/cdc-walks-back-claim-that-vaccinated-people-cant-carry-covid/ That was before Omicron. The real question is if you understand that unvaccinated people have a much larger risk of dying from Covid. Do you understand that basic concept? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunPer Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Danderman123 said: You seem confused. if there were zero tests conducted, then deaths per million would be zero. if there were 100,000 tests per day, then the number of reported infections would be very high. Anutin has chosen to test closer to zero than to 100,000 per day. Therefore, you think Thailand is doing well. You statement is way out of reality. If people shows symptoms or are hospitalized, they have been tested, which is facts. The excess number of test made on people without symptoms in some countries, thereby recording asymptomatic Covid-cases, cannot be compared with countries making fewer tests. The comparable factors are serious critical hospitalization, deaths, and at some point during the pandemic also excess deaths. The last can for example reveal unregistered Covid deaths, or reveal that Covid hardly caused no excess death at all. These figurs are the bottom lines that matters. The official facts shows that Thailand has not performed so bad after all, when compared to other countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunPer Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, spidermike007 said: Please do not refer to him as Khun. That is way more respect than he deserves. He is a failure as a health minister, and he is a huckster. He deserves only scorn and humiliation. I regret, but I'm generally polite and might use "khun" again...???? Edited February 20, 2022 by khunPer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 (edited) 28 minutes ago, khunPer said: You statement is way out of reality. If people shows symptoms or are hospitalized, they have been tested, which is facts. The excess number of test made on people without symptoms in some countries, thereby recording asymptomatic Covid-cases, cannot be compared with countries making fewer tests. The comparable factors are serious critical hospitalization, deaths, and at some point during the pandemic also excess deaths. The last can for example reveal unregistered Covid deaths, or reveal that Covid hardly caused no excess death at all. These figurs are the bottom lines that matters. The official facts shows that Thailand has not performed so bad after all, when compared to other countries. The official numbers show that Thailand tests less than most countries. To be precise, Thailand ranks #146 in testing per capita. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries Disgraceful. Edited February 20, 2022 by Danderman123 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingFat Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 (edited) Well, he may not be all wrong...it just depends on which world he is referring to that includes Thailand; high resolution space telescopes and deep space radio telescopes have determined that the worlds of Jupiter, Saturn and Neptune have not recorded even one case or one death from Covid...???? Edited February 20, 2022 by WingFat 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jerrymahoney Posted February 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 20, 2022 8 hours ago, ThailandRyan said: So he was now appointed by the countries Top individual. May I ask how you derived this? He was appointed by his self appointed group of Senators and his former friends from his unelected coup, even though the then Top Individual legitimized the coup. He still has never been elected and he set himself as a 20 year unelected PM/Dictatorial individual who will never be legitimized by an election....... Prime Minister of the Kingdom of Thailand https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Minister_of_Thailand#Appointment 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted February 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 20, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, jerrymahoney said: Prime Minister of the Kingdom of Thailand https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Minister_of_Thailand#Appointment And I could just edit the Wikipedia page and replace his name with yours on Wikipedia and that makes it all true then huh..... Edited February 20, 2022 by ThailandRyan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 13 hours ago, sitanonchai said: May I remind you yesterday - COVID-19: Thailand reports 18,885 new coronavirus cases, 29 deaths Best in the world of b.llsh.t 5555555 A damned site better than the worst though eh? 17th wrt new infections, 34th wrt deaths, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleareye Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 (edited) On 2/19/2022 at 11:08 AM, pomchop said: I miss Taksin....at least he was competent and got elected rather than seizing power via a coup. Did you forget Taksin wanted to close all the bars at 10 p.m.? And implement "entertainment zones." Edited February 20, 2022 by Cleareye 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrymahoney Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, ThailandRyan said: And I could just edit the Wikipedia page and replace his name with yours on Wikipedia and that makes it all true then huh..... Go ahead. Edit away. Doesn't change anything about how a constitutional monarchy functions. Edited February 20, 2022 by jerrymahoney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted February 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2022 15 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said: Go ahead. Edit away. Doesn't change anything about how a constitutional monarchy functions. Unfortunately he was not elected as per the constitution and thus as a non parliament member could not be put into the position as the PM, that was until he re-wrote the constitution in order to have himself installed.......the final step is just a mere sign-off from the man above, nothing more...... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrymahoney Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 44 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said: Unfortunately he was not elected as per the constitution and thus as a non parliament member could not be put into the position as the PM, that was until he re-wrote the constitution in order to have himself installed.......the final step is just a mere sign-off from the man above, nothing more...... So are you questioning the authority of the ultimate appointer to appointment whomever he sees fit and as meeting the qualifications as PM? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted February 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2022 (edited) 25 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said: So are you questioning the authority of the ultimate appointer to appointment whomever he sees fit and as meeting the qualifications as PM? It's nothing more than a rubber stamping of the paper, if you think otherwise then why do they ever have an election for MP's and such.....just select them as Prayut did for the senate...nuff said, tired of your wind-ups. Edited February 21, 2022 by ThailandRyan 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cherrytreeview Posted February 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2022 (edited) 28 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said: So are you questioning the authority of the ultimate appointer to appointment whomever he sees fit and as meeting the qualifications as PM? What's wrong with you? How can you defend this circus? https://www.aseantoday.com/2019/01/thailands-wealth-inequality-is-the-highest-in-the-world-what-does-this-mean-for-upcoming-elections/ Your like some demented PR agency trying to defend the indefensible. I've heard of some people going native but you take it to a new level. Your honourary Thai citizenship is in the post. Congratulations. Edited February 21, 2022 by Cherrytreeview Edit 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrymahoney Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Cherrytreeview said: What's wrong with you? How can you defend this circus? https://www.aseantoday.com/2019/01/thailands-wealth-inequality-is-the-highest-in-the-world-what-does-this-mean-for-upcoming-elections/ Your like some demented PR agency trying to defend the indefensible. I've heard of some people going native but you take it to a new level. Your honourary Thai citizenship is the post. Congratulations. I am not defending anything. If the PM was gone yesterday would've been fine with me. I am questioning the recurring popinjay comments on here that he is somehow not the legitimate PM when he certainly is that. Better legal minds have already gone through numerous attempts to undermine his legitimacy and have failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted February 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said: I am not defending anything. If the PM was gone yesterday would've been fine with me. I am questioning the recurring popinjay comments on here that he is somehow not the legitimate PM when he certainly is that. Better legal minds have already gone through numerous attempts to undermine his legitimacy and have failed. When you can re-write the constitution to allow yourself, an unelected member of parliament, and the leader of the coup who stole the power from an elected government, and then be nominated as the PM, their is no legitimacy.....try again. Guess that if you yourself seized power and then staged rigged elections, where you had other parties declared null and void and stripped of their elected seats you would consider that legitimate. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cherrytreeview Posted February 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2022 1 minute ago, jerrymahoney said: I am not defending anything. If the PM was gone yesterday would've been fine with me. I am questioning the recurring popinjay comments on here that he is somehow not the legitimate PM when he certainly is that. Better legal minds have already gone through numerous attempts to undermine his legitimacy and have failed. You spent the whole of yesterday defending him on another thread. For someone who allegedly is pretending they don't have skin in the game your coming across as a little obsessed about defending a country's leader with the worst wealth inequality in the world. Does that not ring any alarm bells with you? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted February 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2022 13 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said: It's nothing more than a rubber stamping of the paper, if you think otherwise then why do they ever have an election for MP's and such.....just select them as Prayut did for the senate...nuff said, tired of your wind-ups. Agree. Its the exact same procedure in the UK, a rubber stamp by the queen. Difference? The PM there is elected by a democratic voting system and not a whitewash 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrymahoney Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said: It's nothing more than a rubber stamping of the paper, Thank you. If you think a royal monarch appointment of a PM is just a rubber-stamp, then good for you. There have been multiple challenges that Prayut did not meet the necessary qualifications to be PM and all have failed. E.g. https://www.khaosodenglish.com/featured/2019/03/14/prime-minister-not-a-govt-official-state-agency-rules/ Edited February 21, 2022 by jerrymahoney 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 10 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said: Thank you. If you think a royal monarch appointment of a PM is just a rubber-stamp, then good for you. Re, a monarch in the UK: "effectively rubber stamps the outcome of the electoral process by asking a new prime minister to form a government." https://www.thenationalnews.com/britain-s-monarch-is-a-guiding-star-in-the-storm-of-politics-1.595865 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrymahoney Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Re, a monarch in the UK: "effectively rubber stamps the outcome of the electoral process by asking a new prime minister to form a government." https://www.thenationalnews.com/britain-s-monarch-is-a-guiding-star-in-the-storm-of-politics-1.595865 That is the UK. All I have said is that with the appointment by the Monarch in Thailand, you can be the PM. Without such appointment, you cannot be the PM. Prayut has had the appointment from two reigning monarchs in Thailand. And if you want to say that Prayut has received two such Monarchial appointments, even though not qualified to be PM, that has already been tried and failed. Edited February 21, 2022 by jerrymahoney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted February 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2022 39 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said: Thank you. If you think a royal monarch appointment of a PM is just a rubber-stamp, then good for you. There have been multiple challenges that Prayut did not meet the necessary qualifications to be PM and all have failed. E.g. https://www.khaosodenglish.com/featured/2019/03/14/prime-minister-not-a-govt-official-state-agency-rules/ And here you go he was not elected and this violates the 2007 constitution which he then rewrote so he could be installed into power....nuff said Secretary-General Raksagecha Chaechai said being a government official requires four characteristics: being legally elected, possessing active law enforcement authority, being under the state, and receiving regular payment. The office determined Prayuth didn’t meet two of the criteria as he wasn’t elected, and his junta operates outside of state authority. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrymahoney Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 1 minute ago, ThailandRyan said: And here you go he was not elected and this violates the 2007 constitution which he then rewrote so he could be installed into power....nuff said Secretary-General Raksagecha Chaechai said being a government official requires four characteristics: being legally elected, possessing active law enforcement authority, being under the state, and receiving regular payment. The office determined Prayuth didn’t meet two of the criteria as he wasn’t elected, and his junta operates outside of state authority. But he still is PM. And he is the PM as of 2019 because the Monarch appointed him PM. And whomever the Monarch appoints as PM, IS the PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said: That is the UK. All I have said is that with the appointment by the Monarch in Thailand, you can be the PM. Without such appointment, you cannot be the PM. Prayut has had the appointment from two reigning monarchs in Thailand. And if you want to say that Prayut has received two such Monarchial appointments, even though not qualified to be PM, that has already been tried and failed. Yet you posted a worldwide list of constitutional monarch's in a previous post, with the claim "the PM is whoever the current Monarch says" lol No I don't want to say "that Prayut has received two such Monarchial appointments" thats just boring being double rubber stamped Edited February 21, 2022 by Bkk Brian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrymahoney Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 9 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Yet you posted a worldwide list of constitutional monarch's in a previous post, with the claim "the PM is whoever the current Monarch says" lol No I don't want to say "that Prayut has received two such Monarchial appointments" thats just boring being double rubber stamped Say what you want: Without a rubber-stamp one cannot be PM. Prayut has a rubber-stamp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 13 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said: Say what you want: Without a rubber-stamp one cannot be PM. Prayut has a rubber-stamp. Just a puppet for the elite .... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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