Parliamentary panel votes for separate numbers in election ballots

[snoop1130]

 

The Joint Senate-House Committee considering the election law voted by 32 to 14 today (Wednesday) in favour of designating different ballot numbers for the constituency candidates and parties in the next general elections, tentatively scheduled for next year.

 

The committee’s decision means that, at the start of candidacy registration, parties contesting the poll will draw two lots. One will be for the number to be used by its constituency candidate and the other will be for the party, to be used across the country.

 

Voters will be given two ballots to cast, one for their choice of constituency candidate and the other for the party of their choice.

 

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[smedly]

it doesn't matter what you do (unelected senate) 

 

The Thai people want true democracy not some biased fudge that you are going to try and implement 

 

The time has come .........................people need to elect who runs the country 

 

Those that think they can just be appointed by their mates - need to get a one way ticket out of Thailand, I really hope they make the right choice - 70m people wnat you gone

[hotchilli]

12 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

in the next general elections, tentatively scheduled for next year.

Or sooner one hopes.

[Misterwhisper]

Is there a "0" in there?

[Srikcir]

8 hours ago, smedly said:

it doesn't matter what you do (unelected senate) 

 

The Thai people want true democracy not some biased fudge that you are going to try and implement 

 

The time has come .........................people need to elect who runs the country 

 

Those that think they can just be appointed by their mates - need to get a one way ticket out of Thailand, I really hope they make the right choice - 70m people wnat you gone

That said, the dual ballot system was originally created under the 2011 Constitution. After the 2014 military coup and creation of the pro-military 2017, the dual ballot system was replaced with a unitary ballot system. The new 2017 system was believed to give the new pro-military party an edge in the following election.

 

So the dual ballot system is a comeback to 2014 pre-coupe elections. In general the dual ballot system favors military opposition parties. There was a possibility that the pro-military part of the committee would not accept a return to the dual ballot system pushed by the opposition coalition. 

 

However, the are 3-4 other ballot amendments debated by the committee in conjunction with the dual ballot system not mentioned in the article that could in theory shift favorability to the pro-militarily coalition despite the dual ballot system issue. For example, whether candidates and their party should have the same number on the ballot or different numbers. A majority committee voted for different numbers which would seem to favor the pro-military coalition. 

 

So taken as a whole and without further amendments, it seems to me the new balloting system represents a compromise between the pro-military and opposition coalitions. That is a win for the Thai electorate.

 

Personally, these balloting issues are only nuances that ultimately have little effect on the election outcome. Case in point was the meteoric rise of the military opposition Future Forward Party and the disintegration of the pro-military Democrat party in the 2018 election.

[Srikcir]

Just now, Srikcir said:

.... in the 2018 election.

CORRECTION

.... in the 2019 election

[candide]

3 hours ago, Srikcir said:

That said, the dual ballot system was originally created under the 2011 Constitution. After the 2014 military coup and creation of the pro-military 2017, the dual ballot system was replaced with a unitary ballot system. The new 2017 system was believed to give the new pro-military party an edge in the following election.

 

So the dual ballot system is a comeback to 2014 pre-coupe elections. In general the dual ballot system favors military opposition parties. There was a possibility that the pro-military part of the committee would not accept a return to the dual ballot system pushed by the opposition coalition. 

 

However, the are 3-4 other ballot amendments debated by the committee in conjunction with the dual ballot system not mentioned in the article that could in theory shift favorability to the pro-militarily coalition despite the dual ballot system issue. For example, whether candidates and their party should have the same number on the ballot or different numbers. A majority committee voted for different numbers which would seem to favor the pro-military coalition. 

 

So taken as a whole and without further amendments, it seems to me the new balloting system represents a compromise between the pro-military and opposition coalitions. That is a win for the Thai electorate.

 

Personally, these balloting issues are only nuances that ultimately have little effect on the election outcome. Case in point was the meteoric rise of the military opposition Future Forward Party and the disintegration of the pro-military Democrat party in the 2018 election.

Having two ballots also doubles the opportunity to rigg elections. ????In particular, it should be less noticeable to rigg the party list ballots.

[zzaa09]

13 hours ago, smedly said:

it doesn't matter what you do (unelected senate) 

 

The Thai people want true democracy not some biased fudge that you are going to try and implement 

 

The time has come .........................people need to elect who runs the country 

 

Those that think they can just be appointed by their mates - need to get a one way ticket out of Thailand, I really hope they make the right choice - 70m people wnat you gone

What might true democracy be? ????

Do you [and all the other random Farang experts] really know what Thais want? ????

[smedly]

41 minutes ago, zzaa09 said:

What might true democracy be? ????

Do you [and all the other random Farang experts] really know what Thais want? ????

do you

 

people want elected leaders for a start, I have yet to talk to a Thai that doesn't want the current leaders gone, if an MP in the UK doesn't win their constituency seat they are gone no matter what - as an individual regardless of party they cannot serve as an MP period