advice needed if facing possible arrest

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, robblok said:

In short you want to stay married and keep the property but not have her around. Not sure if that can be done as as long as your married she has the right to get in the shared house. 

In short, what he wants is to be separated, live in her property but not allow her access to her house and land.

[BritManToo]

31 minutes ago, chuang said:

You asked her to leave "because she was talking with married men"....holy <deleted>..LOL..

You'd let your woman browse online for an upgrade?

[scubascuba3]

2 hours ago, JustAnotherFarang said:

it is of explicit nature and will result in the arrest of my ex wife.  You may well ask why I have not used it and my answer is simply this, my home and the land is in her name and by seeking divorce I would be forced to sell it.  I instead chose to keep it as leverage and keep the wolves at bay

So what's on this video? plenty of thai amateur porn online no big deal

[JustAnotherFarang]

2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

To be fair, you were asking for trouble allowing your new gf to access your tablet/computer, trawl your data. My women doesn't get to see anything I have.

 

As for what she's seen, delete it, or move it, and if the question ever arises deny it ever existed and stick to that story.

 

No evidence = no crime.

Im a fool for not hiding my password better from my gf but she was always insecure and I wanted her to see that I was not chatting to other women as she always suspected.  I have taken the precaution of moving all evidence to a safer place and wil deny any knowledge of it if push comes to shove because it was only ever meant to be leverage against my wife and her greedy family

[JustAnotherFarang]

5 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

So what's on this video? plenty of thai amateur porn online no big deal

I do not want to divulge such sensitive information but it is morally repugnant and criminal behaviour.  I will leave you to read between the lines

[blackshadow]

3 hours ago, JustAnotherFarang said:

I did but she memorised my password and accessed it.

so change password..................

[JustAnotherFarang]

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

In short, what he wants is to be separated, live in her property but not allow her access to her house and land.

No your assumption is wide of the mark.  I bought and paid for my home, it was ours, not hers but she fandangled her way to trying to assume control of everything.  I prevented her from doing so with the video evidence against her and had lived happily alone until I met my ex gf who now poses a danger to the status quo.

[Kenny202]

Just now, JustAnotherFarang said:

I do not want to divulge such sensitive information but it is morally repugnant and criminal behaviour.  I will leave you to read between the lines

If I were you bro I would leave this thread right now and go and get a lawyer as soon as you can. They may be applying for a warrant now. Have heard accounts of foreigners sent to prison here...no phone available etc and it may be a lot more difficult to do / find the right person once you are in the soup. Get on the front foot and ahead of the game now. Just finding a decent lawyer here takes time and recommendation from others. Even if in a village, your general province (Udon Thani, Chaiyaphum etc) will probably have a local Facebook group where you can go and ask the question.  

[BritManToo]

16 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

So what's on this video? plenty of thai amateur porn online no big deal

Her watering a room full of cannabis plants?

[Liverpool Lou]

3 minutes ago, JustAnotherFarang said:

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

In short, what he wants is to be separated, live in her property but not allow her access to her house and land.

No your assumption is wide of the mark.  I bought and paid for my home, it was ours, not hers but she fandangled her way to trying to assume control of everything.  I prevened her from doing so with the video evidence against her

You posted this earlier..."my home and the land is in her name".    How have you mangaed to get your name, not hers, on the land and the home docs, then, if your previous post is not correct?

[JustAnotherFarang]

13 minutes ago, JustAnotherFarang said:

 

 

[Ralf001]

10 minutes ago, JustAnotherFarang said:

I do not want to divulge such sensitive information but it is morally repugnant and criminal behaviour.  I will leave you to read between the lines

So you have video's on your computer that display criminal behaviour.

 

If those vids are of a sexual nature the BiB may very well bend you over.

 

 

[JustAnotherFarang]

1 minute ago, Liverpool Lou said:

You posted this earlier..."my home and the land is in her name".    How have you mangaed to get your name, not hers, on the land and the home docs, then, if your previous post is not correct?

It is my home, I built it and paid for it from my earnings whilst married to my wife.  But instead of putting my name on the house andhers on the land, she went and put it all in her name and tried to assume control when our marriage went pear shaped.  Sorry for the lack of info but I havent slept and maybe have confused you in the process.

[JustAnotherFarang]

3 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

So you have video's on your computer that display criminal behaviour.

 

If those vids are of a sexual nature the BiB may very well bend you over.

 

 

I did and now I dont and will deny all knowledge until I receive counsel or wise advice which has been forthcoming on a pm from another poster,

[Liverpool Lou]

2 minutes ago, JustAnotherFarang said:

Im from liverpool too Lou so dont be giving me down the banks when its advice Im looking for mate

"Im from liverpool too..."

What makes you think that I'm from Liverpool, never mind the same one as you?

 

There are some anomalies in your thread that don't easily add up, such as the ownership of her land and house that makes giving accurate advice difficult so don't be giving me down the banks for asking about them on a forum that invites discussion.     

[JustAnotherFarang]

Thank you to all the posters for your time and advice.  I think I am a little more clued in now.  Moderators please feel free to close this thread

[JustAnotherFarang]

1 minute ago, Liverpool Lou said:

"Im from liverpool too..."

What makes you think that I'm from Liverpool, never mind the same one as you?

 

There are some anomalies in your thread that don't easily add up, such as the ownership of her land and house that makes giving accurate advice difficult so don't be giving me down the banks for asking about them on a forum that invites discussion.     

Sorry Liverpool Lou didnt mean to offend.  Im Liverpool Merseyside btw

[Liverpool Lou]

5 minutes ago, JustAnotherFarang said:

It is my home, I built it and paid for it from my earnings whilst married to my wife.  But instead of putting my name on the house andhers on the land, she went and put it all in her name and tried to assume control when our marriage went pear shaped.  Sorry for the lack of info but I havent slept and maybe have confused you in the process.

Ok, so the house and land are both in her name, just as you originally stated and what you described as my "assumption" wasn't an assumption, it was an accurate reading of your post.   Thanks for the clarification, hope you get the advice that you need.

[JustAnotherFarang]

2 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Ok, so the house and land are both in her name, just as you originally stated and what you described as my "assumption" wasn't an assumption, it was an accurate reading of your post.   Thanks for the clarification, hope you get the advice that you need.

Yes, it was my mistake and ii have offered my apologies.  Thank you for taking the time

[Liverpool Lou]

3 minutes ago, JustAnotherFarang said:

Sorry Liverpool Lou didnt mean to offend.  Im Liverpool Merseyside btw

You didn't offend me but you did make an assumption after having a go at me for making an assumption that turned out to not be an assumption!

[blackcab]

1 hour ago, JustAnotherFarang said:

It is of explicit nature and will result in the arrest of my ex wife.  You may well ask why I have not used it and my answer is simply this, my home and the land is in her name and by seeking divorce I would be forced to sell it.  I instead chose to keep it as leverage and keep the wolves at bay

 

You need to be extremely careful about how you word these comments, especially if the police become involved, as what you have said so far falls under the definition of blackmail, contrary to Section 338 of the Thai Criminal Code:

 

Whoever compels another person to give or to agree to give any person a benefit in the nature of property by threatening to disclose a secret, to cause injury to any person, or make the compelled person submit to the same, such person commits blackmail and shall be imprisoned from one year to ten years and fined from two thousand Baht to twenty thousand Baht.

 

At the minute you have said that you are compelling your ex-wife to give you the benefit of living in a house she owns and that if she does not do so you will disclose a secret and compromising video of her by selling the video for money.

 

I understand that you are very stressed at the minute and you undoubtedly misspoke and worded your comment in a way that you did not intend to.

 

As such, please take my comments as friendly advice and consider the situation carefully for the future.

 

Consider that a "sin" is not necessarily a criminal act, and even if it is you can still be guilty of blackmail in the manner I outlined above.

 

Finally, note that the punishment for blackmail starts with one year of imprisonment and rapidly increases.

 

Depriving an owner of assets such as a land and a house or the money they would receive from selling such property would make a case of significant monetary value, which would inevitably increase any sentence awarded by the Court.

[Kenny202]

20 minutes ago, JustAnotherFarang said:

It is my home, I built it and paid for it from my earnings whilst married to my wife.  But instead of putting my name on the house andhers on the land, she went and put it all in her name and tried to assume control when our marriage went pear shaped.  Sorry for the lack of info but I havent slept and maybe have confused you in the process.

Same same my friend. Morally in your mind you bought and paid for it and it's yours...but in the eyes of Thai law legally it is 100% hers. Unless you were legally married when you bought said land and home, then you are entitled to half the proceeds of the sale. If the land is in her parents / sisters name you have no claim whatsoever. Is isn't and has never been your land and home

[Kenny202]

4 minutes ago, blackcab said:

 

You need to be extremely careful about how you word these comments, especially if the police become involved, as what you have said so far falls under the definition of blackmail, contrary to Section 338 of the Thai Criminal Code:

 

Whoever compels another person to give or to agree to give any person a benefit in the nature of property by threatening to disclose a secret, to cause injury to any person, or make the compelled person submit to the same, such person commits blackmail and shall be imprisoned from one year to ten years and fined from two thousand Baht to twenty thousand Baht.

 

At the minute you have said that you are compelling your ex-wife to give you the benefit of living in a house she owns and that if she does not do so you will disclose a secret and compromising video of her by selling the video for money.

 

I understand that you are very stressed at the minute and you undoubtedly misspoke and worded your comment in a way that you did not intend to.

 

As such, please take my comments as friendly advice and consider the situation carefully for the future.

 

Consider that a "sin" is not necessarily a criminal act, and even if it is you can still be guilty of blackmail in the manner I outlined above.

 

Finally, note that the punishment for blackmail starts with one year of imprisonment and rapidly increases.

 

Depriving an owner of assets such as a land and a house or the money they would receive from selling such property would make a case of significant monetary value, which would inevitably increase any sentence awarded by the Court.

+++10 to all of that. You are making some very maybe what you think are moral, but extremely self incriminating comments. You need to get legal help and advice pronto

[Kwasaki]

18 minutes ago, JustAnotherFarang said:

It is my home, I built it and paid for it from my earnings whilst married to my wife.  But instead of putting my name on the house andhers on the land, she went and put it all in her name and tried to assume control when our marriage went pear shaped.  Sorry for the lack of info but I havent slept and maybe have confused you in the process.

Like I said you need a lawyer. 

She has the right to remove you now you have told what the situation of name ownership is. 

 

If you are legally married then what you are entitled to will come via a court judgement usually  50% settlement .

 

To end up with any financial payments from her, will and most probably be difficult.

 

Also whether you can come to some financial settlement regards staying in the property will have to be agreed with you and your enstranged wife before or during divorce proceedings.

 

[OneMoreFarang]

7 hours ago, Swiss1960 said:

Since - according to you - your wife has no proofs, because her allegations are false  she will withdraw them pretty fast.

That would be logical. But since when do (Thai) women act according to logic?

[JustAnotherFarang]

3 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

How could you be "forced to sell" property that your wife owns?   It's not yours to sell.

in the event of divorce you have to sell the property and split it 50/50.  This is my only home and I have no family back in the UK.

[JustAnotherFarang]

2 hours ago, Kenny202 said:

Same same my friend. Morally in your mind you bought and paid for it and it's yours...but in the eyes of Thai law legally it is 100% hers. Unless you were legally married when you bought said land and home, then you are entitled to half the proceeds of the sale. If the land is in her parents / sisters name you have no claim whatsoever. Is isn't and has never been your land and home

I was legally married and you are right, upon sale of the property she is entitled to 50 per cent of the sale unless she chooses to waive that right an signs accordingly.

[JustAnotherFarang]

2 hours ago, blackcab said:

 

You need to be extremely careful about how you word these comments, especially if the police become involved, as what you have said so far falls under the definition of blackmail, contrary to Section 338 of the Thai Criminal Code:

 

Whoever compels another person to give or to agree to give any person a benefit in the nature of property by threatening to disclose a secret, to cause injury to any person, or make the compelled person submit to the same, such person commits blackmail and shall be imprisoned from one year to ten years and fined from two thousand Baht to twenty thousand Baht.

 

At the minute you have said that you are compelling your ex-wife to give you the benefit of living in a house she owns and that if she does not do so you will disclose a secret and compromising video of her by selling the video for money.

 

I understand that you are very stressed at the minute and you undoubtedly misspoke and worded your comment in a way that you did not intend to.

 

As such, please take my comments as friendly advice and consider the situation carefully for the future.

 

Consider that a "sin" is not necessarily a criminal act, and even if it is you can still be guilty of blackmail in the manner I outlined above.

 

Finally, note that the punishment for blackmail starts with one year of imprisonment and rapidly increases.

 

Depriving an owner of assets such as a land and a house or the money they would receive from selling such property would make a case of significant monetary value, which would inevitably increase any sentence awarded by the Court.

This is why I would like the moderator to now close the thread but my foggy mind cannot work out how to do it.  Its great advice though

[patman30]

Speak to a Lawyer
make a police report (with your lawyer present) at the local PS
Install CCTV (more cams the better, inside and out)
install a geo tracker or setup gmaps to record your movements

should you need to easily show your movements to police later in the event of any false allegations.

Get divorce,

Sell your property
kiss 50% goodbye
move on

[Kwasaki]

28 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

That would be logical. But since when do (Thai) women act according to logic?

That's why OP needs a lawyer so a court judge ruling can be made if she is seen to be proved to be acting in an unreasonable way.